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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2013, 08:26:21 PM »
Why do we not know how to go quickly on offense?  I realize we don't run a hurry up offense, but shouldn't we at least know how to do it in case it's the end of the game and we don't have any timeouts because we used them when we ran the play clock down to zero several times earlier in the game?

We used one timeout on the 2PT conversion. Honestly, with Sams and without Lockett/Thompson going down the field quickly was going to be tough. That just makes it all the most frustrating that down 1 point with 4 minutes left we decide to throw a deep flag into cover 2. Sams made an awful, short throw on it, but still, give him a call to be successful and just start the drive running the ball.

Yeah. I don't see how the coaches can watch him in practice and think that route would be a good idea in that situation. If they wanted to come out throwing, they should have tried Gronk in the seam again. That way, if it's covered, at least Sams has some clear space to tuck and run. Sams still needs to learn how to play within himself and not throw that ball, though.

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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2013, 08:27:32 PM »
sams got tackled from behind late on one of the last two drives.  Couldn't believe it.  Not fast

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« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2013, 08:28:34 PM »
Sams still needs to learn how to play within himself and not throw that ball, though.

I agree, its not fair to Sams if you think he is a good player to let him off the hook. He has to know in that situation not to force a tough throw in between a corner and safety. Check, if its not wide open, tuck it and run.

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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2013, 08:31:14 PM »
Once Lockett was hurt, Waters' day should have been over.

_fan!  i said this exact same thing in chat and people (dax) told me to shut up!

it was a good comment, which the tv commentators took and ran with 30 seconds later

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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2013, 08:31:40 PM »
Question: We run a "check with me" slothfense. So I'm watching the game, and see like, 9 guys on the line for the pokes and say "man, we have no one blocking outside if they blitz." Then they rush from the outside and we're running some play where Daniel has like a 19 step drop and gets blindsided by an unblocked dude.

So my question is: What the heck is up with that?

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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2013, 08:33:05 PM »
Question: We run a "check with me" slothfense. So I'm watching the game, and see like, 9 guys on the line for the pokes and say "man, we have no one blocking outside if they blitz." Then they rush from the outside and we're running some play where Daniel has like a 19 step drop and gets blindsided by an unblocked dude.

So my question is: What the heck is up with that?

It was a zone blocking scheme where the line all steps to the right. Hubert should have had his eyes to the left and picked that up. We had the numbers to stop that blitz. Hubert just went the wrong way.

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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2013, 08:34:28 PM »
it was a good comment, which the tv commentators took and ran with 30 seconds later

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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2013, 08:35:27 PM »
Question: We run a "check with me" slothfense. So I'm watching the game, and see like, 9 guys on the line for the pokes and say "man, we have no one blocking outside if they blitz." Then they rush from the outside and we're running some play where Daniel has like a 19 step drop and gets blindsided by an unblocked dude.

So my question is: What the heck is up with that?

It was a zone blocking scheme where the line all steps to the right. Hubert should have had his eyes to the left and picked that up. We had the numbers to stop that blitz. Hubert just went the wrong way.

I'm not sure but won't the QB usually point to the guy and make sure the RB sees him in that situation?
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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2013, 08:36:07 PM »
Question: We run a "check with me" slothfense. So I'm watching the game, and see like, 9 guys on the line for the pokes and say "man, we have no one blocking outside if they blitz." Then they rush from the outside and we're running some play where Daniel has like a 19 step drop and gets blindsided by an unblocked dude.

So my question is: What the heck is up with that?

It was a zone blocking scheme where the line all steps to the right. Hubert should have had his eyes to the left and picked that up. We had the numbers to stop that blitz. Hubert just went the wrong way.

Well we should correct that if we're going to beat Baylor.

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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2013, 08:37:03 PM »
Question: We run a "check with me" slothfense. So I'm watching the game, and see like, 9 guys on the line for the pokes and say "man, we have no one blocking outside if they blitz." Then they rush from the outside and we're running some play where Daniel has like a 19 step drop and gets blindsided by an unblocked dude.

So my question is: What the heck is up with that?

It was a zone blocking scheme where the line all steps to the right. Hubert should have had his eyes to the left and picked that up. We had the numbers to stop that blitz. Hubert just went the wrong way.

I'm not sure but won't the QB usually point to the guy and make sure the RB sees him in that situation?

iirc he pointed out the overload on the strong side and got blasted from the weak side?

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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2013, 08:37:36 PM »
Question: We run a "check with me" slothfense. So I'm watching the game, and see like, 9 guys on the line for the pokes and say "man, we have no one blocking outside if they blitz." Then they rush from the outside and we're running some play where Daniel has like a 19 step drop and gets blindsided by an unblocked dude.

So my question is: What the heck is up with that?

It was a zone blocking scheme where the line all steps to the right. Hubert should have had his eyes to the left and picked that up. We had the numbers to stop that blitz. Hubert just went the wrong way.

Well we should correct that if we're going to beat Baylor.

has anyone started a list yet?  if so, add that to the list.  if not, someone should start a list.
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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2013, 08:38:02 PM »
Question: We run a "check with me" slothfense. So I'm watching the game, and see like, 9 guys on the line for the pokes and say "man, we have no one blocking outside if they blitz." Then they rush from the outside and we're running some play where Daniel has like a 19 step drop and gets blindsided by an unblocked dude.

So my question is: What the heck is up with that?

It was a zone blocking scheme where the line all steps to the right. Hubert should have had his eyes to the left and picked that up. We had the numbers to stop that blitz. Hubert just went the wrong way.

I'm not sure but won't the QB usually point to the guy and make sure the RB sees him in that situation?

Sams probably should have. I would have to rewatch it to see if he actually had an opportunity to do that, given how we run a check with me and the defense wasn't really showing itself until after the whole team looked to the sidelines in most situations. Either way, the running back has to block the back side in that scheme. He went right, and there wasn't even anybody for him to block on that side.

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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2013, 08:40:53 PM »
Question: We run a "check with me" slothfense. So I'm watching the game, and see like, 9 guys on the line for the pokes and say "man, we have no one blocking outside if they blitz." Then they rush from the outside and we're running some play where Daniel has like a 19 step drop and gets blindsided by an unblocked dude.

So my question is: What the heck is up with that?

It was a zone blocking scheme where the line all steps to the right. Hubert should have had his eyes to the left and picked that up. We had the numbers to stop that blitz. Hubert just went the wrong way.

I'm not sure but won't the QB usually point to the guy and make sure the RB sees him in that situation?

iirc he pointed out the overload on the strong side and got blasted from the weak side?

I can't remember. I just know neither of them saw it and when watching from our angle it was easy to spot. They both should have seen it, but Hubert has no excuse since he's been starting for three years now. He seems lazy this year.
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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2013, 08:45:15 PM »
Question: We run a "check with me" slothfense. So I'm watching the game, and see like, 9 guys on the line for the pokes and say "man, we have no one blocking outside if they blitz." Then they rush from the outside and we're running some play where Daniel has like a 19 step drop and gets blindsided by an unblocked dude.

So my question is: What the heck is up with that?

It was a zone blocking scheme where the line all steps to the right. Hubert should have had his eyes to the left and picked that up. We had the numbers to stop that blitz. Hubert just went the wrong way.

Well we should correct that if we're going to beat Baylor.

has anyone started a list yet?  if so, add that to the list.  if not, someone should start a list.

1. Get Hubert to zone block right or whatever
2. Don't commit 5 turnovers
3. No penalties
4. Put laxitives in the gatorade for Baylor.
5. Kidnap Art Briles
6. At least have a name on the jersey of players who are returning kicks so I know who to be mad at
7. Beer in the Stadium
8. Move the game to Sunday? Is Baylor allowed to play Sundays? They'd forfeit right?

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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2013, 08:49:14 PM »
Question: We run a "check with me" slothfense. So I'm watching the game, and see like, 9 guys on the line for the pokes and say "man, we have no one blocking outside if they blitz." Then they rush from the outside and we're running some play where Daniel has like a 19 step drop and gets blindsided by an unblocked dude.

So my question is: What the heck is up with that?

It was a zone blocking scheme where the line all steps to the right. Hubert should have had his eyes to the left and picked that up. We had the numbers to stop that blitz. Hubert just went the wrong way.

Well we should correct that if we're going to beat Baylor.

has anyone started a list yet?  if so, add that to the list.  if not, someone should start a list.

1. Get Hubert to zone block right or whatever
2. Don't commit 5 turnovers
3. No penalties
4. Put laxitives in the gatorade for Baylor.
5. Kidnap Art Briles
6. At least have a name on the jersey of players who are returning kicks so I know who to be mad at
7. Beer in the Stadium
8. Move the game to Sunday? Is Baylor allowed to play Sundays? They'd forfeit right?
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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2013, 08:50:38 PM »
I big time like the "move the game to Sunday" plan.  Just pretend its due to weather

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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2013, 08:53:06 PM »

8. Move the game to Sunday? Is Baylor allowed to play Sundays? They'd forfeit right?

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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2013, 08:54:43 PM »
...so we are a big 12 team and everything and sure, we lose 2 of our returners...but the best we can do is a guy who doesn't have his name on the back of his jersey who runs as fast as Finney?  there isn't anyone else? seriously?  losing out on the field position all of the second half rough ridin' killed us (along with the 25 turnovers).

...so Sams sucks at throwing the ball, but he still threw the ball well in certain/limited situations...but that this is why he shouldn't have started? I mean, you've known this for the entire spring, summer, and fall practice and you can't scheme around that crap?

...4.5minutes in the game and we come out and throw the ball down the field with Sams even though he had basically been shoving it up their ass the entire game?  And then on the final drive, 3rd and 4 and you're like "oh, crap, get the guy in there that the defense has to defend both the pass and the run".  After 2 weeks, this is the crap you've thought up?

...why was the game plan with Sams w/ no Hubert in the backfield?  I realize they wanted to spread OSU out but no speed option against that defense?  Especially since all it wanted to do was blitz Sams?

...the penalties...I mean, wtf?  we had 2 weeks to prepare and our center doesn't know when to snap the ball? the goddamn return man tried a forward rough ridin' lateral.  Like, has anyone ever seen that?  I can't even remember that crap in high school.

To summarize, WTF?

To summarize, we are not a very good football team and you post about as well as we play.

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Re: I have questions....
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2013, 08:55:34 PM »
here is what i'm assuming is the play cf3 was talking about:


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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2013, 08:59:53 PM »
here is what i'm assuming is the play cf3 was talking about:



Clear miscommunication between McDonald and Hubert. That was like a free gift for the defensive end; it would've been one thing had they brought pressure from that side (the blitz was completely from the other side of the formation), but they didn't and McDonald blocked no one.

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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2013, 09:01:29 PM »
sams got tackled from behind late on one of the last two drives.  Couldn't believe it.  Not fast

Yeah. I want the Sams against Miami last year that got shot out of a cannon and ran for TD's and no one touches him.

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« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2013, 09:05:09 PM »
sams got tackled from behind late on one of the last two drives.  Couldn't believe it.  Not fast

Yeah. I want the Sams against Miami last year that got shot out of a cannon and ran for TD's and no one touches him.

he seems to be quicker than he is fast, i wouldn't expect alot of long TD runs

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« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2013, 09:06:16 PM »
sams got tackled from behind late on one of the last two drives.  Couldn't believe it.  Not fast

Yeah. I want the Sams against Miami last year that got shot out of a cannon and ran for TD's and no one touches him.

he seems to be quicker than he is fast, i wouldn't expect alot of long TD runs

Sometimes the other team has fast players that make good plays. Credit where due, etc.

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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2013, 09:10:31 PM »
sams got tackled from behind late on one of the last two drives.  Couldn't believe it.  Not fast

Yeah. I want the Sams against Miami last year that got shot out of a cannon and ran for TD's and no one touches him.

he seems to be quicker than he is fast, i wouldn't expect alot of long TD runs

It is just that he isn't that fast.  I was actually disappointed in his running today.  Probably unfair. OSU is athletic.  But I am watching TCU and OU and Sams is average.

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« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2013, 09:32:08 PM »
sams got tackled from behind late on one of the last two drives.  Couldn't believe it.  Not fast

Yeah. I want the Sams against Miami last year that got shot out of a cannon and ran for TD's and no one touches him.

he seems to be quicker than he is fast, i wouldn't expect alot of long TD runs

It is just that he isn't that fast.  I was actually disappointed in his running today.  Probably unfair. OSU is athletic.  But I am watching TCU and OU and Sams is average.