FM#LIFE

[eastcat]

Sorry, but if waters played the whole game, I doubt we score more than 10 points ( and that includes the field goal block).  We likely lose 40 - 10

Probably so.  But this thread isn't about how terrible Waters is, there are plenty of those. This is out how terrible Life was today.   Maybe he'll figure things out and surprise me next week but he was abysmal today.

I thought he was fantastic until the last 5 minutes of the game happened.

Dude.  His QBR was sub 39.   If you think that's terrific, you just might be a respect.  He had some nice runs but he still only averaged 4.4 for the game.  Today, he was terrible. I love the kid but he played like crap today.

He threw 2 picks in the last five minutes of the game. What was his QBR before that?

What was Jake Water's QB rating before the last 5 minutes of the Texas game?

This board's ability to make excuses for Sams is unrivaled.

waters sucks dude.  we were losing to texas the entire game b/c of that loser

The fact that this board thinks the win/loss of our games is determined entirely by QB play is stupidity. Better coaching would have won every game this year regardless of QB.

[kitten_mittons]

I love Sams.  Support him 100%.  That said, this thread title is really good.

[kim carnes]

I love Sams.  Support him 100%.  That said, this thread title is really good.

yeah, so witty

[wetwillie]

our quarterback ran for 33 more yards than the entire other team tonight

27 carries a game isn't sustainable, we will break him. have to get Hubert more involved somehow.

[Tobias]

our quarterback ran for 33 more yards than the entire other team tonight

27 carries a game isn't sustainable, we will break him. have to get Hubert more involved somehow.

i agree, just wanted to differentiate for those who want to compare waters passing vs sams passing and leave it at that

[The Whale]

Redshirt SO, first career "start", on the road, top 25 opponent, top 2 receivers out.  Minimal playing time prior to this game.



Well, I'm sure Bill did his best to make sure this young man had the best chance at succeeding

[Ich.Gewinne]

Did we NOT learn from last year that when crap gets tough/nuts - you do NOT skip the plan that the 'Cats have used to win... Do not try to make the deep plays happen Snyder. Abandon that plan, abandon using it especially when your top receivers are out.. You tried with Klein, you tried with Waters, and now you did it with Sams. What do you not get OB??

 

[WildcatNkilt]

Lot of drunk retards with low FBIQ doing some meltdown posting.  Sams doesn't suck.  He made some stupid errors, but is the obvious future of this team.  Great to see him in full command (mostly) out there today.  He has a lot of maturing to do, but his upside is huge.  We lost but with Waters it would have been much worse.

[eastcat]

Lot of drunk retards with low FBIQ doing some meltdown posting.  Sams doesn't suck.  He made some stupid errors, but is the obvious future of this team.  Great to see him in full command (mostly) out there today.  He has a lot of maturing to do, but his upside is huge.  We lost but with Waters it would have been much worse.

You are stating hypothetical situations as fact. Waters didn't play, we don't know. Just like we don't know what would have happened had Sams played more previously. Nobody here watches practices, knows them in person. I doubt Bill is intentionally losing games, our overall scheme doesn't match up well with either of these guy and our defense isn't doing the offense any big favors.

[Tobias]

it's fact, dumbass

[kim carnes]

Lot of drunk retards with low FBIQ doing some meltdown posting.  Sams doesn't suck.  He made some stupid errors, but is the obvious future of this team.  Great to see him in full command (mostly) out there today.  He has a lot of maturing to do, but his upside is huge.  We lost but with Waters it would have been much worse.

You are stating hypothetical situations as fact. Waters didn't play, we don't know. Just like we don't know what would have happened had Sams played more previously. Nobody here watches practices, knows them in person. I doubt Bill is intentionally losing games, our overall scheme doesn't match up well with either of these guy and our defense isn't doing the offense any big favors.

i thought you might have been trolling the past few weeks, but you're actually Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

[kitten_mittons]

I love Sams.  Support him 100%.  That said, this thread title is really good.

yeah, so witty

Pretty witty <------rhyme.

[420seriouscat69]

Shut the eff up, Carnes.

[kim carnes]

Shut the eff up, Carnes.

 

[WildcatNkilt]

Lot of drunk retards with low FBIQ doing some meltdown posting.  Sams doesn't suck.  He made some stupid errors, but is the obvious future of this team.  Great to see him in full command (mostly) out there today.  He has a lot of maturing to do, but his upside is huge.  We lost but with Waters it would have been much worse.

You are stating hypothetical situations as fact. Waters didn't play, we don't know. Just like we don't know what would have happened had Sams played more previously. Nobody here watches practices, knows them in person. I doubt Bill is intentionally losing games, our overall scheme doesn't match up well with either of these guy and our defense isn't doing the offense any big favors.

For one, our drives wouldn't have been as long (we won T.O.P. With 8 mins left to go in game).  Our defense can only be successful for short periods of time on the field, and with a team like OSU the best defense is keeping their offense off the field.  Sams allowed our offense to move he ball by keeping their defense honest.  Hubert is worthless with Waters and when Waters as QB the defense can easily expect a pass.  This is not hard to see.  Pretty easily actually.  Sucks bad we lost....but Sams is the future to K-State football success....not Waters.  This game showed me a lot....and I'm surprisingly pleased.

[420seriouscat69]

It's amazing how great this offense has made them.

[jtksu]

Lot of drunk retards with low FBIQ doing some meltdown posting.  Sams doesn't suck.  He made some stupid errors, but is the obvious future of this team.  Great to see him in full command (mostly) out there today.  He has a lot of maturing to do, but his upside is huge.  We lost but with Waters it would have been much worse.

You are stating hypothetical situations as fact. Waters didn't play, we don't know. Just like we don't know what would have happened had Sams played more previously. Nobody here watches practices, knows them in person. I doubt Bill is intentionally losing games, our overall scheme doesn't match up well with either of these guy and our defense isn't doing the offense any big favors.

Outside of the last, super quick TD the D was fine today.  How many times did they salvage a super short field and hold them to a FG?  (Not to mention the blocked kick six, but I guess that's special teams.)

[jtksu]

Sorry, but if waters played the whole game, I doubt we score more than 10 points ( and that includes the field goal block).  We likely lose 40 - 10

Probably so.  But this thread isn't about how terrible Waters is, there are plenty of those. This is out how terrible Life was today.   Maybe he'll figure things out and surprise me next week but he was abysmal today.

I thought he was fantastic until the last 5 minutes of the game happened.

Dude.  His QBR was sub 39.   If you think that's terrific, you just might be a respect.  He had some nice runs but he still only averaged 4.4 for the game.  Today, he was terrible. I love the kid but he played like crap today.

He threw 2 picks in the last five minutes of the game. What was his QBR before that?

What was Jake Water's QB rating before the last 5 minutes of the Texas game?

This board's ability to make excuses for Sams is unrivaled.

waters sucks dude.  we were losing to texas the entire game b/c of that loser

The fact that this board thinks the win/loss of our games is determined entirely by QB play is stupidity. Better coaching would have won every game this year regardless of QB.

If it comes down to believing Sams and Waters lost this game or Snyder list this game, I'm going with the QB's. 

[420seriouscat69]

Fwiw this board is too stupid to have an info independent thought.

[kim carnes]

Fwiw this board is too stupid to have an info pendent thought.

 

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

 

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Fwiw this board is too stupid to have an info independent thought.

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Daniel #LiFE Sams ?@DS4ms 7m
I will put this L on my shoulders as a quarterback of my team. But believe I will learn from my mistakes and play my heart out next week.

This is a lot better than saying you really like Paul Rhoads.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Sorry, but if waters played the whole game, I doubt we score more than 10 points ( and that includes the field goal block).  We likely lose 40 - 10

Probably so.  But this thread isn't about how terrible Waters is, there are plenty of those. This is out how terrible Life was today.   Maybe he'll figure things out and surprise me next week but he was abysmal today.

I thought he was fantastic until the last 5 minutes of the game happened.

Dude.  His QBR was sub 39.   If you think that's terrific, you just might be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  He had some nice runs but he still only averaged 4.4 for the game.  Today, he was terrible. I love the kid but he played like crap today.

He threw 2 picks in the last five minutes of the game. What was his QBR before that?

What was Jake Water's QB rating before the last 5 minutes of the Texas game?

This board's ability to make excuses for Sams is unrivaled.

Maybe you should read the entire conversation and try again. I said Sams looked terrific during the first 55 minutes of the game, and he did. I didn't say he had a terrific game. The last 5 minutes did happen.

[jtksu]

Sorry, but if waters played the whole game, I doubt we score more than 10 points ( and that includes the field goal block).  We likely lose 40 - 10

Probably so.  But this thread isn't about how terrible Waters is, there are plenty of those. This is out how terrible Life was today.   Maybe he'll figure things out and surprise me next week but he was abysmal today.

I thought he was fantastic until the last 5 minutes of the game happened.

Dude.  His QBR was sub 39.   If you think that's terrific, you just might be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  He had some nice runs but he still only averaged 4.4 for the game.  Today, he was terrible. I love the kid but he played like crap today.

He threw 2 picks in the last five minutes of the game. What was his QBR before that?

What was Jake Water's QB rating before the last 5 minutes of the Texas game?

This board's ability to make excuses for Sams is unrivaled.

Maybe you should read the entire conversation and try again. I said Sams looked terrific during the first 55 minutes of the game, and he did. I didn't say he had a terrific game. The last 5 minutes did happen.

Terrific?  I'm beginning to think some of you watched an entirely different game than the one between KState and OSU today.