Sams / Thompson

[Rage Against the McKee]

Predicition: Sams sees the field on 22 snaps this week, 10 at QB.

You might be right, but ftr, I want to say that anything less than 100% of the snaps, all at QB, and I will probably still be pissed.

I would be fine with Waters playing QB during garbage time in the 4th quarter when we have a double digit lead.

NO! After throwing 70 yard bombs all game long and running for 9 touchdowns with multiple foot plants, the garbage time will be for working on the dink and dunk game. Sams needs to get the reps in so he can dink and dunk better than Waters.

OSU has a history of playing dirty when things go south, and I'd rather let Waters trot out there to get sketti'd so we can have Sams next week to maybe beat Baylor.

[ben ji]

Is there any evidence that Snyder and Co. know how to be "creative" with a player offensively?

I can't think of one situation where he actually used a special package offensively. We used Sproles like an I back more than anything. We had the beautiful Chris Harper for three seasons and all we did with him was have him block guys out if we threw him the ball. I was to young to pay that kind of attention to how we used Frank Murphy, but I have zero confidence this staff has the ability to use a player like Sams in any capacity offensively that isn't stock blocking for Waters option plays or Hubes running out of bounds because he can't make a cut.

Terrance Newman used to play some WR 

[mocat]

Is there any evidence that Snyder and Co. know how to be "creative" with a player offensively?

I can't think of one situation where he actually used a special package offensively. We used Sproles like an I back more than anything. We had the beautiful Chris Harper for three seasons and all we did with him was have him block guys out if we threw him the ball. I was to young to pay that kind of attention to how we used Frank Murphy, but I have zero confidence this staff has the ability to use a player like Sams in any capacity offensively that isn't stock blocking for Waters option plays or Hubes running out of bounds because he can't make a cut.

Terrance Newman used to play some WR 

LOL at ben "real ksu fan" ji thinking a blocked PAT for a TD was a reception for a TD 

[TownieCat]

Sometimes I don't think BSAC knows as much as he thinks he does. Like, we would have totally owned him at fattyfest.

 

[slobber]

Is there any evidence that Snyder and Co. know how to be "creative" with a player offensively?

I can't think of one situation where he actually used a special package offensively. We used Sproles like an I back more than anything. We had the beautiful Chris Harper for three seasons and all we did with him was have him block guys out if we threw him the ball. I was to young to pay that kind of attention to how we used Frank Murphy, but I have zero confidence this staff has the ability to use a player like Sams in any capacity offensively that isn't stock blocking for Waters option plays or Hubes running out of bounds because he can't make a cut.

Terrance Newman used to play some WR 

LOL at ben "real ksu fan" ji thinking a blocked PAT for a TD was a reception for a TD 

LOL at "NO"mocat thinking a blocked PAT returned the other way was a TD

[Rage Against the McKee]

Plus Newman did play some wide receiver, momentiacat.

[Stevesie60]

This resembles mocat's attempt at math.

[kso_FAN]

Newman's "reception"

[Rage Against the McKee]

Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

[yoEMAW]

Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

[Stevesie60]

I loved when Snyder was asked why they played him at WR and he said something like, "That young man is going to be making lots of money soon, so it's in my best interests to make sure he stays happy".

[deputy dawg]

Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

Newman did kick returns a lot, not often you see defensive player called to do that. 

[Cartierfor3]

Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

The TD against Mizzou was a punt return. The reception was from Dunn against ULM.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm



Pro tip for the board: Don't post random half memories of stuff that didn't happen. "Oh Ell sat the 1st half in the Fiesta Bowl, I remember, I watched it!" etc. You can verify stuff with google.

[hatingfrancisco]

Pro tip for the board: Don't post random half memories of stuff that didn't happen. "Oh Ell sat the 1st half in the Fiesta Bowl, I remember, I watched it!" etc. You can verify stuff with google.

Thanks Dad.

[michigancat]

Didn't we run a fake punt to him? Or at least just throw a deep bomb to him to get a PI call?

[yoEMAW]

Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

The TD against Mizzou was a punt return. The reception was from Dunn against ULM.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm



Pro tip for the board: Don't post random half memories of stuff that didn't happen. "Oh Ell sat the 1st half in the Fiesta Bowl, I remember, I watched it!" etc. You can verify stuff with google.

Thanks, CF3, you beat me to it. Flawless googling. Did you remember that one though? Man, that was awesome, huh. We may be dating ourselves a bit though! 

[kso_FAN]

While K-State's Man of Steel returns as a Thorpe Award candidate at cornerback, he's also the Wildcats' top candidate to return punts and kickoffs. And while he's not listed on the offensive depth chart, wide receivers coach Greg Peterson calls Newman the "X-factor" when boiling down quarterback Marc Dunn potential targets.

The possibilities thrill the Salina senior.

"It's exciting just to flat-out run," Newman said. "At cornerback, you have to backpedal, turn your hips, stop and plant. At receiver, I'm going forward all the time and it helps a lot."

[yoEMAW]

Didn't we run a fake punt to him? Or at least just throw a deep bomb to him to get a PI call?

Jesus man, you trying to get us all sent home early? Just google it, bud.

[michigancat]

I remember in 2001 using Sproles and hall in the old school service Academy option w/ Sproles starting at wingback and going in motion and then we'd fake or hand off to Hall and then run the option with Sproles.

I think?

[michigancat]

crazy thought: 2001 was 12 years ago.

[Cartierfor3]

Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

The TD against Mizzou was a punt return. The reception was from Dunn against ULM.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm



Pro tip for the board: Don't post random half memories of stuff that didn't happen. "Oh Ell sat the 1st half in the Fiesta Bowl, I remember, I watched it!" etc. You can verify stuff with google.

Thanks, CF3, you beat me to it. Flawless googling. Did you remember that one though? Man, that was awesome, huh. We may be dating ourselves a bit though! 

I remembered it. I had to look up if it was Eastern Illinois or ULM though. It was in the NEZ, no folding chairs that game, just grassy hill.

[Cartierfor3]

I remember in 2001 using Sproles and hall in the old school service Academy option w/ Sproles starting at wingback and going in motion and then we'd fake or hand off to Hall and then run the option with Sproles.

I think?

That's a trickier one to google

[kso_FAN]

I remember in 2001 using Sproles and hall in the old school service Academy option w/ Sproles starting at wingback and going in motion and then we'd fake or hand off to Hall and then run the option with Sproles.

I think?

We did something like that with Sproles/Hall. I don't think it was flexbone though, I believe Sproles ran jet motion and then the hand to Saba, but I don't remember exactly.

[mocat]

you guys, this time i was just joking i promise

[yoEMAW]

Newman finished the '02 season with 4 receptions for 98 yards and 1 touchdown.

Yes, with the TD early versus Mizzou I believe. Really opened the floodgates that day.

The TD against Mizzou was a punt return. The reception was from Dunn against ULM.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores102/102250/20020907NCAAFKANSASST--0nr.htm



Pro tip for the board: Don't post random half memories of stuff that didn't happen. "Oh Ell sat the 1st half in the Fiesta Bowl, I remember, I watched it!" etc. You can verify stuff with google.

Thanks, CF3, you beat me to it. Flawless googling. Did you remember that one though? Man, that was awesome, huh. We may be dating ourselves a bit though! 

I remembered it. I had to look up if it was Eastern Illinois or ULM though. It was in the NEZ, no folding chairs that game, just grassy hill.

Speaking of...lol at Romo's 3 ints. That son of a bitch hasn't changed a bit!