Waters

[Rage Against the McKee]

Eastcat, did you defend Dunn like this, too?

[hatingfrancisco]

I think Sams could run the offense we called for Collin. The rest of the team has a bit of experience in it as well.

He doesn't have the bulk to run between the tackles like collin did at all. Collin was a rare animal, Neither Sams nor Waters are going to be successful in an offense designed around CK.

It's pretty obvious that Sams passing game isn't effective enough to use in a game. I don't think Bill smiles on the sidelines while losing to crap teams.

Our O-Line's ability to pass block is very limited. They rarely had to do it under Collin. Watching the Baylor/oSu offensive lines pass block compared to ours makes me want to cry.

hey maybe if you just keep saying it you'll eventually have some evidence to back it up.

but probably not.

Like the spring game where he threw a pick against one of the scrubbiest defenses on earth?

He doesn't play for a reason.

lol at how hard it is to find a negative data point for sams 

Not enough data on him to work with.  It's like you guys are Jehovah Witnesses and #LIFE is Jesus.  Sure you say he can throw it around but I nor any of you have seen it so I have a hard time believing it.

[SwiftCat]

75% #LIFEtime completion percentage tho

[CNS]

We have seen Waters throw it, and while he is a good passer, imo, he also has a high amt of interceptions.

Also, we have seen waters run and it is the absolute worst. 

Sams running = Ell

Sams throwing simply can't be bad enough to overshadow his running ability so that the two don't equate to more than the sum of Waters' running/throwing.  Also, we have seen him do it well.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I have watched enough LHC Bill Snyder football to know that any QB who can run as well as Sams does in this system is going to have plenty of wide open receivers down the field to throw bombs to over the course of a season. I don't actually have to see Sams throw one to know that he is capable of it because anyone is capable of hitting wide open wide receivers.

[Harry Dunne]

Sams throwing simply can't be bad enough to overshadow his running ability so that the two don't equate to more than the sum of Waters' running/throwing.  Also, we have seen him do it well.

This.

[wiley]

Sams throwing simply can't be bad enough to overshadow his running ability so that the two don't equate to more than the sum of Waters' running/throwing.  Also, we have seen him do it well.

This.

If he would've thrown 2 GD times the game would've been different.  All he had to go is 1 for 2 and we score.  Robinson must've received a phone call from Snyder and Dimel that we were absolutely not going to throw the ball with Sams.  for effs sake, even Klein converted WR was able to throw against Texas.

[lopakman]

Waters is our QB.  Sams isn't good enough to unseat him.  Seems pretty damn straight forward don't you think?

Your screen name is so on point right now.

[kim carnes]

my mizzou neighbor has bet on the cats the last 2 weeks.  he hates waters, loves sams and thinks snyder is a dumbass for not playing him.  in fact, every non-dumbass i've spoke to thinks sams should start.

[Trim]

Spaghetti Brainz whippin' his ass.

http://www.goreivers.com/sports/news.asp?Sport=football&Num=1360

[eastcat]

 

Spaghetti Brainz whippin' his ass.

http://www.goreivers.com/sports/news.asp?Sport=football&Num=1360

a 25-0 victory over North Dakota State College of Science at Bute Alumni Stadium

Is this a real?

[eastcat]

I think Sams could run the offense we called for Collin. The rest of the team has a bit of experience in it as well.

He doesn't have the bulk to run between the tackles like collin did at all. Collin was a rare animal, Neither Sams nor Waters are going to be successful in an offense designed around CK.

It's pretty obvious that Sams passing game isn't effective enough to use in a game. I don't think Bill smiles on the sidelines while losing to crap teams.

Our O-Line's ability to pass block is very limited. They rarely had to do it under Collin. Watching the Baylor/oSu offensive lines pass block compared to ours makes me want to cry.

hey maybe if you just keep saying it you'll eventually have some evidence to back it up.

but probably not.

Like the spring game where he threw a pick against one of the scrubbiest defenses on earth?

He doesn't play for a reason.

lol at how hard it is to find a negative data point for sams 

You mean the one time in history that he has thrown more than 5 passes? I can't reiterate enough how shitty our first string defense is, let alone our 2nd string spring game squad.

Maybe the pass to Harper against oSu in the endzone while he was in triple coverage last year?

The whole point of a QB is the ability to throw the football. If Sams is so incredible at running have him play RB or WR.

[ArchE_Cat]

Spaghetti Brainz whippin' his ass.

http://www.goreivers.com/sports/news.asp?Sport=football&Num=1360

so we traded bender for waters 

[steve dave]

I think Sams could run the offense we called for Collin. The rest of the team has a bit of experience in it as well.

He doesn't have the bulk to run between the tackles like collin did at all. Collin was a rare animal, Neither Sams nor Waters are going to be successful in an offense designed around CK.

It's pretty obvious that Sams passing game isn't effective enough to use in a game. I don't think Bill smiles on the sidelines while losing to crap teams.

Our O-Line's ability to pass block is very limited. They rarely had to do it under Collin. Watching the Baylor/oSu offensive lines pass block compared to ours makes me want to cry.

hey maybe if you just keep saying it you'll eventually have some evidence to back it up.

but probably not.

Like the spring game where he threw a pick against one of the scrubbiest defenses on earth?

He doesn't play for a reason.

lol at how hard it is to find a negative data point for sams 

You mean the one time in history that he has thrown more than 5 passes? I can't reiterate enough how shitty our first string defense is, let alone our 2nd string spring game squad.

Maybe the pass to Harper against oSu in the endzone while he was in triple coverage last year?

The whole point of a QB is the ability to throw the football. If Sams is so incredible at running have him play RB or WR.

the thing about sams is that he's our best option throwing and running. so playing him at QB when we have turnoverdeliverysystem.com taking snaps is pretty much a no brainer.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If we had Payton Manning on the roster or something, then yeah, ask Sams to switch positions so he can see the field. The QB that we have is not a great passer, though. He's about average at throwing the ball and he's the worst QB in the league in terms of not turning the ball over, avoiding pressure, and converting short yardage situations. You would just have to blindly hate Sams to not want him in the lineup at this point.

[8manpick]

Couple of questions...

1. Didn't eastcat at one point have the "racist POS" tagline on his profile? If so, explains a lot.

2. On tapatalk so it is hard to see, but is eastcat's avatar a picture of @DS4ms? If so, that makes no sense.

[MadCat]

is eastcat's avatar a picture of @DS4ms?

Confirmed

[kso_FAN]

Updated:

Name   Team   TD%
Bryce Petty   Baylor   11.9%
Clint Chelf   Okla St   10.7%
Blake Bell   Oklahoma   9.3%
David Ash   Texas   8.0%
Sam Richardson   Iowa State   7.0%
Davis Webb   Texas Tech   6.3%
J.W. Walsh   Okla St   6.0%
Baker Mayfield   Texas Tech   5.3%
Jake Waters   Kansas St   4.0%
Trevone Boykin   TCU   3.3%
Jake Heaps   Kansas   3.2%
Case McCoy   Texas   1.8%

Name   Team   INT%
Bryce Petty   Baylor   0.0%
Clint Chelf   Okla St   0.0%
Blake Bell   Oklahoma   0.0%
Case McCoy   Texas   0.0%
J.W. Walsh   Okla St   1.2%
David Ash   Texas   2.3%
Baker Mayfield   Texas Tech   2.7%
Sam Richardson   Iowa State   2.8%
Trevone Boykin   TCU   3.3%
Jake Heaps   Kansas   4.3%
Jake Waters   Kansas St   5.0%
Davis Webb   Texas Tech   6.3%

[Tobias]

eastcat's avatar a picture of @DS4ms

one of life's greatest mysteries.  you don't see K-S-U W strolling around with an obama avatar.  so weird.

[steve dave]

Updated:

Name   Team   TD%
Bryce Petty   Baylor   11.9%
Clint Chelf   Okla St   10.7%
Blake Bell   Oklahoma   9.3%
David Ash   Texas   8.0%
Sam Richardson   Iowa State   7.0%
Davis Webb   Texas Tech   6.3%
J.W. Walsh   Okla St   6.0%
Baker Mayfield   Texas Tech   5.3%
Jake Waters   Kansas St   4.0%
Trevone Boykin   TCU   3.3%
Jake Heaps   Kansas   3.2%
Case McCoy   Texas   1.8%

Name   Team   INT%
Bryce Petty   Baylor   0.0%
Clint Chelf   Okla St   0.0%
Blake Bell   Oklahoma   0.0%
Case McCoy   Texas   0.0%
J.W. Walsh   Okla St   1.2%
David Ash   Texas   2.3%
Baker Mayfield   Texas Tech   2.7%
Sam Richardson   Iowa State   2.8%
Trevone Boykin   TCU   3.3%
Jake Heaps   Kansas   4.3%
Jake Waters   Kansas St   5.0%
Davis Webb   Texas Tech   6.3%

so jake waters is slightly better at throwing TDs than the WR that TCU was forced into playing at QB but worse by a larger margin as far as throwing picks.

[michigancat]

Updated:

Name   Team   TD%
Bryce Petty   Baylor   11.9%
Clint Chelf   Okla St   10.7%
Blake Bell   Oklahoma   9.3%
David Ash   Texas   8.0%
Sam Richardson   Iowa State   7.0%
Davis Webb   Texas Tech   6.3%
J.W. Walsh   Okla St   6.0%
Baker Mayfield   Texas Tech   5.3%
Jake Waters   Kansas St   4.0%
Trevone Boykin   TCU   3.3%
Jake Heaps   Kansas   3.2%
Case McCoy   Texas   1.8%

Name   Team   INT%
Bryce Petty   Baylor   0.0%
Clint Chelf   Okla St   0.0%
Blake Bell   Oklahoma   0.0%
Case McCoy   Texas   0.0%
J.W. Walsh   Okla St   1.2%
David Ash   Texas   2.3%
Baker Mayfield   Texas Tech   2.7%
Sam Richardson   Iowa State   2.8%
Trevone Boykin   TCU   3.3%
Jake Heaps   Kansas   4.3%
Jake Waters   Kansas St   5.0%
Davis Webb   Texas Tech   6.3%

so jake waters is slightly better at throwing TDs than the WR that TCU was forced into playing at QB but worse by a larger margin as far as throwing picks.

TCU has played an easier schedule

[CNS]

Spaghetti Brainz whippin' his ass.

http://www.goreivers.com/sports/news.asp?Sport=football&Num=1360

so we traded bender for waters 

The redshirt freshman from Lincoln, who transferred from Kansas State to Iowa Western prior to this spring, eclipsed the school’s single-game rushing mark by a quarterback in a steady rain Saturday.

 We dumped Bender because he was a runner, obviously.

[slobber]

Updated:

Name   Team   TD%
Bryce Petty   Baylor   11.9%
Clint Chelf   Okla St   10.7%
Blake Bell   Oklahoma   9.3%
David Ash   Texas   8.0%
Sam Richardson   Iowa State   7.0%
Davis Webb   Texas Tech   6.3%
J.W. Walsh   Okla St   6.0%
Baker Mayfield   Texas Tech   5.3%
Jake Waters   Kansas St   4.0%
Trevone Boykin   TCU   3.3%
Jake Heaps   Kansas   3.2%
Case McCoy   Texas   1.8%

Name   Team   INT%
Bryce Petty   Baylor   0.0%
Clint Chelf   Okla St   0.0%
Blake Bell   Oklahoma   0.0%
Case McCoy   Texas   0.0%
J.W. Walsh   Okla St   1.2%
David Ash   Texas   2.3%
Baker Mayfield   Texas Tech   2.7%
Sam Richardson   Iowa State   2.8%
Trevone Boykin   TCU   3.3%
Jake Heaps   Kansas   4.3%
Jake Waters   Kansas St   5.0%
Davis Webb   Texas Tech   6.3%

so jake waters is slightly better at throwing TDs than the WR that TCU was forced into playing at QB but worse by a larger margin as far as throwing picks.

TCU has played an easier schedule and Boykin hasn't had the tough situational throws that Waters has had.

[catzacker]

Jake Spradling or Will Waters?

Jill Waterling?

Wake Wadling?

I dunno.

[Tobias]

Wake Wadling