Top 5 Football Jobs

[OregonSmock]

Also, what other jobs were open when the Oregon job was too?

What does this have to do with anything? If it really is a top 5 job like you suggest, then they should be able to go after anybody they want.

They got who they wanted.  Oregon wanted to keep Chip Kelly's system in place and run the same type of offense.  Their new coach is picking right up where Kelly left off, and they're looking like a national title contender again.

Oregon has had the same coaching staff for the last 25 years, that is the only reason for their continued success. If the Job opened today it would be a bad Job to take, you're not in a recruit rich area and will have unreal expectations for winning. 

Texas right now will be the best Job opening in the last 25 years and USC is not far behind. Expectations for those programs in the near future are way down. Alabama is also a crap job, you don't want to follow Sabin.

The Pacific Northwest has some really good football talent, especially in the Seattle metro area.  The state of Oregon has some really good athletes as well, plus Oregon is able to get the best of the best from states like California and Hawaii.  It's a top tier program right now, without a doubt.  The Nike money, combined with the facilities and the playing style, make it an attractive program for just about anyone.

There is 4 four stars in Oregon and Washington combined......

Oregon's best commitment last year was a 5-star running back out of Beaverton, OR.  This year may be a down year, but on average, there are quite a few good athletes that come out of the Pacific Northwest.

You have lost your mind. Oregon has some of the worst HS football in the nation, along with Kansas. Only a few east coast states are worse.

I didn't say Oregon high school football was great... all I said was that the Pacific NW produced some pretty good athletes.  For whatever apparent reason, you have this weird, personal hatred towards the state of Oregon, and it really creeps me out. 

[Emo EMAW]

Oklahoma
Alabama
LSU
Ohio State
Florida
(in no particular order)

The talent is in the South, and being able to own Ohio for OSU is big, as well as all the recent success of these schools put them as the top 5 programs in the Nation. They've also won basically all the National Titles recently. USC would be in the next tier with Michigan, FSU, Texas, Notre Dame.

Stop it dumb person.

[MakeItRain]

All of these lists are personal lists, good for you for actually admitting it. For elite college football players living in Tuscaloosa, Alabama or anywhere in SEC country has draws that Austin doesn't. I'm now assuming that these lists are lists of where a white midwesterner would want to coach as opposed to what the best programs are.

What would Tuscaloosa have that Austin doesn't? 

I think I see your point with the typical college town outside of the southeastern US but not a big city like Austin.

Black people

[MakeItRain]

MIR has some good points re: Texas, yet he hasn't posted his list.

Let's hear it MIR, top 5 coaching jobs, let's say based on which would have the biggest pool of coaches to hire out of.

Do you want my opinion of the top 5 jobs or the top 5 places I would go because the latter seems to be the tenor of this thread?

[MakeItRain]

Oklahoma
Alabama
LSU
Ohio State
Florida
(in no particular order)

The talent is in the South, and being able to own Ohio for OSU is big, as well as all the recent success of these schools put them as the top 5 programs in the Nation. They've also won basically all the National Titles recently. USC would be in the next tier with Michigan, FSU, Texas, Notre Dame.

So looking at this as if I were Nick Saban's agent and I could send my client anywhere these are the five programs I feel like are the easiest to win at. I somewhat agree with Michicat's assessment of Michigan, OSU, and ND being interchangeable, the biggest difference is that you can get any kid into OSU without headache, scrutiny, and consternation.

If I were a coach and I were looking for cool and comfortable places to coach my list would have UT on it and real close to the top too.

[kim carnes]

UCLA
USC
STANFORD
CAL
UCSD

/thread

[DQ12]

Most built in advantages, I would say:

Alabama
USC
Texas
Ohio State
Florida

[kim carnes]

Anyone who made a suggestion outside the state of California is stupid.  A lot of you are stupid.

[DQ12]

Anyone who made a suggestion outside the state of California is stupid.  A lot of you are stupid.

why did you put UCSD above SDSU?

 

[kim carnes]

Anyone who made a suggestion outside the state of California is stupid.  A lot of you are stupid.

why did you put UCSD above SDSU?

 

It's my list man.  I meant to put sdsu tho. 

[Cire]

This is the top five after ksu right?

[Cartierfor3]

MIR has some good points re: Texas, yet he hasn't posted his list.

Let's hear it MIR, top 5 coaching jobs, let's say based on which would have the biggest pool of coaches to hire out of.

Do you want my opinion of the top 5 jobs or the top 5 places I would go because the latter seems to be the tenor of this thread?

I kinda want to get greedy and ask for both

[kim carnes]

All of these lists are personal lists, good for you for actually admitting it. For elite college football players living in Tuscaloosa, Alabama or anywhere in SEC country has draws that Austin doesn't. I'm now assuming that these lists are lists of where a white midwesterner would want to coach as opposed to what the best programs are.

What would Tuscaloosa have that Austin doesn't? 

I think I see your point with the typical college town outside of the southeastern US but not a big city like Austin.

Black people

UCLA has black people and everything else a person could want.  It should be the undisputed #1.

[MakeItRain]

MIR has some good points re: Texas, yet he hasn't posted his list.

Let's hear it MIR, top 5 coaching jobs, let's say based on which would have the biggest pool of coaches to hire out of.

Do you want my opinion of the top 5 jobs or the top 5 places I would go because the latter seems to be the tenor of this thread?

I kinda want to get greedy and ask for both

Well I gave you my top 5 programs, where I would go would be hard because, personally, I wouldn't willingly move anywhere in Florida, Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa, Norman, South Bend, Columbus, Ann Arbor, or Los Angeles (LA is great but my greatest fear is the big one). Then again in my line of work I willingly and enthusiastically moved to Boone, Iowa so I'm sure I would be fine living in these shitty college locales. Austin is a great town, but the historical greatness of their football program is grossly overrated.

Sidenote, media who trash towns like Manhattan, Stillwater, Ames, Corvallis, etc are hilarious. Have you guys ever seen South Bend, Columbus, Baton Rouge? GROSS even when the weather is nice in these places, just gross.

[michigancat]

Norman and South Bend are unbelievably awful.

[eastcat]

All of these lists are personal lists, good for you for actually admitting it. For elite college football players living in Tuscaloosa, Alabama or anywhere in SEC country has draws that Austin doesn't. I'm now assuming that these lists are lists of where a white midwesterner would want to coach as opposed to what the best programs are.

What would Tuscaloosa have that Austin doesn't? 

I think I see your point with the typical college town outside of the southeastern US but not a big city like Austin.

Black people

UCLA has black people and everything else a person could want.  It should be the undisputed #1.

UCLA has minorities, but they certainly aren't black.

More asians than you can shake a stick at.

[star seed 7]

More asians than you can shake a stick at.

why would you do this?

[mocat]

Los Angeles (LA is great but my greatest fear is the big one).

Would you have to do more public speaking or flying or seeing snakes in LA? I don't get it

[Dugout DickStone]

Also, what other jobs were open when the Oregon job was too?

What does this have to do with anything? If it really is a top 5 job like you suggest, then they should be able to go after anybody they want.

They got who they wanted.  Oregon wanted to keep Chip Kelly's system in place and run the same type of offense.  Their new coach is picking right up where Kelly left off, and they're looking like a national title contender again.

Oregon has had the same coaching staff for the last 25 years, that is the only reason for their continued success. If the Job opened today it would be a bad Job to take, you're not in a recruit rich area and will have unreal expectations for winning. 

Texas right now will be the best Job opening in the last 25 years and USC is not far behind. Expectations for those programs in the near future are way down. Alabama is also a crap job, you don't want to follow Sabin.

The Pacific Northwest has some really good football talent, especially in the Seattle metro area.  The state of Oregon has some really good athletes as well, plus Oregon is able to get the best of the best from states like California and Hawaii.  It's a top tier program right now, without a doubt.  The Nike money, combined with the facilities and the playing style, make it an attractive program for just about anyone.

There is 4 four stars in Oregon and Washington combined......

Oregon's best commitment last year was a 5-star running back out of Beaverton, OR.  This year may be a down year, but on average, there are quite a few good athletes that come out of the Pacific Northwest.

You have lost your mind. Oregon has some of the worst HS football in the nation, along with Kansas. Only a few east coast states are worse.

I didn't say Oregon high school football was great... all I said was that the Pacific NW produced some pretty good athletes.  For whatever apparent reason, you have this weird, personal hatred towards the state of Oregon, and it really creeps me out.

That actually creeps you out?

[MakeItRain]

Los Angeles (LA is great but my greatest fear is the big one).

Would you have to do more public speaking or flying or seeing snakes in LA? I don't get it

Sorry, "The Big One."

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/10/local/la-me-san-andreas-20101010

[mocat]

Los Angeles (LA is great but my greatest fear is the big one).

Would you have to do more public speaking or flying or seeing snakes in LA? I don't get it

Sorry, "The Big One."

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/10/local/la-me-san-andreas-20101010

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Public speaking is worse so I think probably every coaching position is overrated to me personally