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Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« on: September 15, 2013, 06:03:52 PM »
So I am reading some discussion in Tuckville, and a usual suspect chimed in with his usual misinformation about how the mission of Land Grant Schools is to pretty much let everybody in like K-State does.

Frankly, if K-State only raised it's admission standards marginally over where they are now, it would increase the school's overall prestige and impact very few students.   In fact, if you look at the numbers, a very large percentage of K-State Freshman would garner automatic admission at all but the most selective public universities in the United States (and a significant portion of those would get admitted to the UNC Chapel Hill's and Virginia's of the world).   

It's a myth that Land Grant Schools are required to essentially just throw the doors open.   

Admission Rate of other Land Grant Schools:

NC State: 54%

University of Florida: 39%

Ohio State: 63.4%

Auburn: 70%

Virginia Tech: 67%

Texas A&M : 63.5%

Iowa State: 81%

Mississippi State: 63%

Colorado State: 76%

K-State: 97%







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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2013, 06:10:24 PM »
meh.
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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2013, 06:27:54 PM »
So I am reading some discussion in Tuckville, and a usual suspect chimed in with his usual misinformation about how the mission of Land Grant Schools is to pretty much let everybody in like K-State does.

Frankly, if K-State only raised it's admission standards marginally over where they are now, it would increase the school's overall prestige and impact very few students.   In fact, if you look at the numbers, a very large percentage of K-State Freshman would garner automatic admission at all but the most selective public universities in the United States (and a significant portion of those would get admitted to the UNC Chapel Hill's and Virginia's of the world).   

It's a myth that Land Grant Schools are required to essentially just throw the doors open.   

Admission Rate of other Land Grant Schools:

NC State: 54%

University of Florida: 39%

Ohio State: 63.4%

Auburn: 70%

Virginia Tech: 67%

Texas A&M : 63.5%

Iowa State: 81%

Mississippi State: 63%

Colorado State: 76%

K-State: 97%

I know a non-tuck that would whip your ass in an argument about this.

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2013, 06:31:17 PM »
So I am reading some discussion in Tuckville, and a usual suspect chimed in with his usual misinformation about how the mission of Land Grant Schools is to pretty much let everybody in like K-State does.

Frankly, if K-State only raised it's admission standards marginally over where they are now, it would increase the school's overall prestige and impact very few students.   In fact, if you look at the numbers, a very large percentage of K-State Freshman would garner automatic admission at all but the most selective public universities in the United States (and a significant portion of those would get admitted to the UNC Chapel Hill's and Virginia's of the world).   

It's a myth that Land Grant Schools are required to essentially just throw the doors open.   

Admission Rate of other Land Grant Schools:

NC State: 54%

University of Florida: 39%

Ohio State: 63.4%

Auburn: 70%

Virginia Tech: 67%

Texas A&M : 63.5%

Iowa State: 81%

Mississippi State: 63%

Colorado State: 76%

K-State: 97%

I know a non-tuck that would whip your ass in an argument about this.

Who is arguing, it's just the way the college rankings game is played.


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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2013, 06:34:44 PM »
Oh, I thought you were advocating for raising admission standards. Never mind.

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2013, 06:39:11 PM »
Oh, I thought you were advocating for raising admission standards. Never mind.

So advocating is arguing?


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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2013, 06:40:58 PM »
would still  like to hear the ass whipping  defense for not raising admissions ( because I think it benefits the U to  be  very inclusive)

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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2013, 06:43:24 PM »

Oh, I thought you were advocating for raising admission standards. Never mind.

So advocating is arguing?

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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2013, 06:47:48 PM »
would still  like to hear the ass whipping  defense for not raising admissions ( because I think it benefits the U to  be  very inclusive)

yeah, i like that too, but i also don't care if we were slightly less inclusive.  hence the "meh".
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2013, 06:48:47 PM »
Bring it on, but in the college rankings game, K-State gets dinged for its admission rates, and when you look at incoming Freshman ACT scores at K-State it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that a marginal increase in standards would impact very few students, plus with the transfer agreements in place with Kansas Juco's, the path into K-State would still be relatively simple for resident Kansas students not admitted as Freshman.


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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2013, 06:54:06 PM »
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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2013, 10:29:43 PM »
i like that our doors are wide open.  i care zero percent about k-state's academic ranking, but i can understand why others might.

but if you're the type to care about k-state's college ranking, why did you decide to go to k-state in the first place?


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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2013, 10:31:17 PM »
Yea, there is literally nothing I give a crap less about than acceptance rates.

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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2013, 10:32:42 PM »
College admission rates and the rate of tuition inflation are directly related.

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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2013, 10:37:58 PM »
College admission rates and the rate of tuition inflation are directly related.

Nah.

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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2013, 10:53:37 PM »
Degrees matter, not schools.
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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2013, 11:03:33 PM »
I love it when people talk about the days of worrying about test scores and getting accepted into college, including me in the discussion and I'm just all like, "Yeah, man."

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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2013, 11:14:51 PM »
i like that our doors are wide open.  i care zero percent about k-state's academic ranking, but i can understand why others might.

but if you're the type to care about k-state's college ranking, why did you decide to go to k-state in the first place?

someone has a great fatty quote that sums up the whole academics thing really well
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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2013, 06:07:56 AM »
Who is worrying?

But it's a complete myth that Land Grant Schools are mandated to just throw the doors open.

Also, it's quite obvious that the senior administration at K-State cares about college rankings.




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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2013, 06:54:01 AM »
how dare chum1 accuse dax of worrying.


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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2013, 09:21:00 AM »
i like that our doors are wide open.  i care zero percent about k-state's academic ranking, but i can understand why others might.


It's good that you can understand why people may care about the academic ranking of our academic institution. 

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2013, 09:31:54 AM »
if we let more kids into ksu we will have more millionaire alumni. its rough ridin' science.
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Re: Admission Rate (by %) of Land Grant Schools . . .
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2013, 11:53:41 AM »
i like that our doors are wide open.  i care zero percent about k-state's academic ranking, but i can understand why others might.


It's good that you can understand why people may care about the academic ranking of our academic institution.
Yeah.  I'm empathetic like that.


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