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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2013, 01:14:24 PM »
Didn't Robinson have some kind of health issue that eliminates him as a viable option to play every down?

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2013, 01:34:05 PM »
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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2013, 02:31:54 PM »
-I'm still mad that he's ruined Demarcus Robinson's career.
I was on board till this. This is way off the mark.

Maybe I'm off the mark. Robinson messed up early in his playing career and hasn't made it out of Snyder's doghouse since. It's been 4 rough ridin' years though. Snyder doesn't play true freshman (very rarely I should say). He held out Sproles for 3 rough ridin' games his true freshman year for what?? So Scobey could prove how doghit he was?

He should've played Robinson from the beginning and this wouldn't even be an issue. Remember Randle from Okie St.....two different paths. That's why I say Snyder ruined Robinson's career.

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2013, 03:07:18 PM »
-I'm still mad that he's ruined Demarcus Robinson's career.
I was on board till this. This is way off the mark.

Maybe I'm off the mark. Robinson messed up early in his playing career and hasn't made it out of Snyder's doghouse since. It's been 4 rough ridin' years though. Snyder doesn't play true freshman (very rarely I should say). He held out Sproles for 3 rough ridin' games his true freshman year for what?? So Scobey could prove how doghit he was?

He should've played Robinson from the beginning and this wouldn't even be an issue. Remember Randle from Okie St.....two different paths. That's why I say Snyder ruined Robinson's career.

I heard DRob just didn't have the assertiveness to seize the starting job from Hubes.  :dunno:
He has the ability

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2013, 03:27:06 PM »
-I'm still mad that he's ruined Demarcus Robinson's career.
I was on board till this. This is way off the mark.

Maybe I'm off the mark. Robinson messed up early in his playing career and hasn't made it out of Snyder's doghouse since. It's been 4 rough ridin' years though. Snyder doesn't play true freshman (very rarely I should say). He held out Sproles for 3 rough ridin' games his true freshman year for what?? So Scobey could prove how doghit he was?

He should've played Robinson from the beginning and this wouldn't even be an issue. Remember Randle from Okie St.....two different paths. That's why I say Snyder ruined Robinson's career.

scobey was a pro. not disagreeing with some of this but cmon man

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2013, 03:31:12 PM »
-I'm still mad that he's ruined Demarcus Robinson's career.
I was on board till this. This is way off the mark.

Maybe I'm off the mark. Robinson messed up early in his playing career and hasn't made it out of Snyder's doghouse since. It's been 4 rough ridin' years though. Snyder doesn't play true freshman (very rarely I should say). He held out Sproles for 3 rough ridin' games his true freshman year for what?? So Scobey could prove how doghit he was?

He should've played Robinson from the beginning and this wouldn't even be an issue. Remember Randle from Okie St.....two different paths. That's why I say Snyder ruined Robinson's career.

scobey was a pro. not disagreeing with some of this but cmon man
Sproles also broke his collar bone in the 2nd game IIRC

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2013, 03:34:20 PM »
-I'm still mad that he's ruined Demarcus Robinson's career.
I was on board till this. This is way off the mark.

Maybe I'm off the mark. Robinson messed up early in his playing career and hasn't made it out of Snyder's doghouse since. It's been 4 rough ridin' years though. Snyder doesn't play true freshman (very rarely I should say). He held out Sproles for 3 rough ridin' games his true freshman year for what?? So Scobey could prove how doghit he was?

He should've played Robinson from the beginning and this wouldn't even be an issue. Remember Randle from Okie St.....two different paths. That's why I say Snyder ruined Robinson's career.

scobey was a pro. not disagreeing with some of this but cmon man
Sproles also broke his collar bone in the 2nd game IIRC

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2013, 04:22:58 PM »
I may be overracting fellas. Just venting.....But I'm tired of some of the crap Snyder is pulling. Same crap each year.
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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2013, 04:24:44 PM »
I may be overracting fellas. Just venting.....But I'm tired of some of the crap Snyder is pulling. Same crap each year.
Overall, Snyder success speaks for itself but this Sams thing is hard to explain

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2013, 08:27:53 AM »
Last year was somewhat nice because he couldn't surprise anyone with Collin.

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2013, 08:54:11 AM »
I may be overracting fellas. Just venting.....But I'm tired of some of the crap Snyder is pulling. Same crap each year.

Major overreaction

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2013, 09:02:39 AM »
I may be overracting fellas. Just venting.....But I'm tired of some of the crap Snyder is pulling. Same crap each year.

bill does some annoying crap. but hey, we've won 23 out of our last 29 games. not blaming you for reacting the way you do, just trying to lift you up, friend.


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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2013, 09:06:47 AM »
Plenty to critique about Bill this year and over his career, but there seems to be an implication that Robinson = Randle. I really think that if this was the case it would've shown up on the field by now. Generally if talented players are here all 4 years they make there way onto the field. I remember that after his SO year his HS coach was making excuses for Robinson that he didn't get the reps in practice because other guys would jump in ahead of him, which IMO is ridiculous. If the kid could play he would be playing.

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2013, 09:29:41 AM »
I may be overracting fellas. Just venting.....But I'm tired of some of the crap Snyder is pulling. Same crap each year.

bill does some annoying crap. but hey, we've won 23 out of our last 29 games. not blaming you for reacting the way you do, just trying to lift you up, friend.

Thanks new friend. I agree that we've been fantastic the last few years and overachieved more than any other team. I'm not satisfied with 10 wins anymore. I want to take the next step. 

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2013, 09:37:18 AM »
Plenty to critique about Bill this year and over his career, but there seems to be an implication that Robinson = Randle. I really think that if this was the case it would've shown up on the field by now. Generally if talented players are here all 4 years they make there way onto the field. I remember that after his SO year his HS coach was making excuses for Robinson that he didn't get the reps in practice because other guys would jump in ahead of him, which IMO is ridiculous. If the kid could play he would be playing.

Nobody on this board knows what happened early in his career, me especially. This kid had true freshman talent though. If he were handled differently and asserted into the fold from the beginning, maybe Robinson would have handled things differently.

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2013, 09:41:55 AM »
got 99 problems but demrob aint one

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2013, 09:42:03 AM »
Plenty to critique about Bill this year and over his career, but there seems to be an implication that Robinson = Randle. I really think that if this was the case it would've shown up on the field by now. Generally if talented players are here all 4 years they make there way onto the field. I remember that after his SO year his HS coach was making excuses for Robinson that he didn't get the reps in practice because other guys would jump in ahead of him, which IMO is ridiculous. If the kid could play he would be playing.

Nobody on this board knows what happened early in his career, me especially. This kid had true freshman talent though. If he were handled differently and asserted into the fold from the beginning, maybe Robinson would have handled things differently.

he got put on scout team, didn't stick out, missed a few practices contemplating quitting, and has been fighting back ever since.

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2013, 09:46:32 AM »
got 99 problems but demrob aint one

That's why I started the thread "reasons to be mad" .... list  your's YLA!!
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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2013, 09:51:09 AM »
HS coach was making excuses for Robinson that he didn't get the reps in practice because other guys would jump in ahead of him, which IMO is ridiculous.

This is such a weird excuse
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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2013, 09:52:39 AM »
Plenty to critique about Bill this year and over his career, but there seems to be an implication that Robinson = Randle. I really think that if this was the case it would've shown up on the field by now. Generally if talented players are here all 4 years they make there way onto the field. I remember that after his SO year his HS coach was making excuses for Robinson that he didn't get the reps in practice because other guys would jump in ahead of him, which IMO is ridiculous. If the kid could play he would be playing.

Nobody on this board knows what happened early in his career, me especially. This kid had true freshman talent though. If he were handled differently and asserted into the fold from the beginning, maybe Robinson would have handled things differently.
FAN is correct as usual, there are very few guys with real talent that never got a chance.  Bryce had a few opportunities and I believe he would of had more had he stayed and the Joe Hall and Daniel Davis types that got their shots.

That said, it seems like Snyder 2.0 has not rotated backs nearly as much as I remember him doing the first time around.  Obviously having DT in 09 and 10 makes it seem like a no brainer (William Powell's 10.9 ypc tho). Now we have his commitment to Hubert, who is not a gifted as DT or DS but seems to be getting the a similar percentage of carries, even though we have a some guys on the bench that could at least be a good change of pace.

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2013, 09:59:19 AM »
Plenty to critique about Bill this year and over his career, but there seems to be an implication that Robinson = Randle. I really think that if this was the case it would've shown up on the field by now. Generally if talented players are here all 4 years they make there way onto the field. I remember that after his SO year his HS coach was making excuses for Robinson that he didn't get the reps in practice because other guys would jump in ahead of him, which IMO is ridiculous. If the kid could play he would be playing.

Nobody on this board knows what happened early in his career, me especially. This kid had true freshman talent though. If he were handled differently and asserted into the fold from the beginning, maybe Robinson would have handled things differently.
FAN is correct as usual, there are very few guys with real talent that never got a chance.  Bryce had a few opportunities and I believe he would of had more had he stayed and the Joe Hall and Daniel Davis types that got their shots.

That said, it seems like Snyder 2.0 has not rotated backs nearly as much as I remember him doing the first time around.  Obviously having DT in 09 and 10 makes it seem like a no brainer (William Powell's 10.9 ypc tho). Now we have his commitment to Hubert, who is not a gifted as DT or DS but seems to be getting the a similar percentage of carries, even though we have a some guys on the bench that could at least be a good change of pace.

I think its fair that a change of pace back would be nice, especially some one with more size to go along with Hubert. I heard good things about Leverett in the spring, so I thought maybe he'd be the guy, but that doesn't seem to be the case. As is, our back up is smaller than our already small feature back.

To be fair, I think the staff had a guy each year since they've came back, but they didn't always work out completely.  Powell got hurt while Thomas was here and Pease reportedly had some concussion issues his first year, and never got fully implemented.

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2013, 10:05:06 AM »
Plenty to critique about Bill this year and over his career, but there seems to be an implication that Robinson = Randle. I really think that if this was the case it would've shown up on the field by now. Generally if talented players are here all 4 years they make there way onto the field. I remember that after his SO year his HS coach was making excuses for Robinson that he didn't get the reps in practice because other guys would jump in ahead of him, which IMO is ridiculous. If the kid could play he would be playing.

Nobody on this board knows what happened early in his career, me especially. This kid had true freshman talent though. If he were handled differently and asserted into the fold from the beginning, maybe Robinson would have handled things differently.
FAN is correct as usual, there are very few guys with real talent that never got a chance.  Bryce had a few opportunities and I believe he would of had more had he stayed and the Joe Hall and Daniel Davis types that got their shots.

That said, it seems like Snyder 2.0 has not rotated backs nearly as much as I remember him doing the first time around.  Obviously having DT in 09 and 10 makes it seem like a no brainer (William Powell's 10.9 ypc tho). Now we have his commitment to Hubert, who is not a gifted as DT or DS but seems to be getting the a similar percentage of carries, even though we have a some guys on the bench that could at least be a good change of pace.

I think its fair that a change of pace back would be nice, especially some one with more size to go along with Hubert. I heard good things about Leverett in the spring, so I thought maybe he'd be the guy, but that doesn't seem to be the case. As is, our back up is smaller than our already small feature back.

To be fair, I think the staff had a guy each year since they've came back, but they didn't always work out completely.  Powell got hurt while Thomas was here and Pease reportedly had some concussion issues his first year, and never got fully implemented.
FAN, would you say the system Snyder is running now is more demanding of the RB than what he was doing the first time? 

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2013, 10:06:53 AM »
got 99 problems but demrob aint one

That's why I started the thread "reasons to be mad" .... list  your's YLA!!
Dorrian Roberts routinely gets left on an island and he sucks.
^my biggest complaint

but I do wish we had a different back.. hubert is the worst imo and now that he doesn't have a running quarterback(more dsams please) to open up a running game for him his suckiness is shining through.
he is the absolute worst. routinely arm tackled, takes forever to find a hole, not explosive, dece hands though & good not coughing up the ball.. basically he is not a big XII back. great possession back though

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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2013, 10:07:38 AM »
Lack of hurry up offense and general confusion near end of half/end of game. Nothing is more frustrating as a fan than seeing our guys steam roll to the 8 yard line and then piss away a chance to score because of lack of timeout/lack of play call immediately following a time out/ QB uncertain of which play to call because he's confused.

Remember the first offensive play of this year? That's right, we line up and then call a timeout.
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Re: Reasons to be mad at Bill
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2013, 10:10:23 AM »
Sometimes you just gotta hand the ball to a talented guy and let'm run.

I've said it before, but there were multiple times in 2011 and 2012 that a more explosive/speedier back takes the ball to the house when Hubert gets caught, or run out-of-bounds.