U.S.-NATO Missiles/Bombs on Syria within 15 to 25 days . . .

[Rage Against the McKee]

Why, exactly, do we give a eff about what syria does to itself?  There is literally no rough ridin' reason we should launch one missile towards anyone in that country  I mean, we are all rough ridin' righteous because chemicals got used?  But we sure as eff don, t care that eight year olds are killing each other in africa.  Our country is so incredibly awful at leading.

Yeah. I mean if we want to spend a ton of money to make the world a better place with little to no benefit to us, then there are tons of more cost-effective ways to achieve that without killing women and children who are just unfortunately caught in the blast radius.

[michigancat]

I'm really glad came back. Or has it always been here?

[8manpick]

Yeah 'zacker, I basically asked that on page one and didn't get a particularly satisfactory answer. Good luck to you though

[felix rex]

Yeah, for the life of me I can't figure out what firing a missile into Syria would accomplish. Unless we seriously wreck strategic crap (seems unlikely), it doesn't seem like much of a deterrent. "Oh no! ANOTHER explosion in my country!"

[sonofdaxjones]

"Freedom Fighters" were busted at the Turkey-Syrian border back in the Spring with Sarin gas.

The White House isn't answering any questions about whether they'll go it alone even without a congressional vote.

[Cire]

Yeah, for the life of me I can't figure out what firing a missile into Syria would accomplish. Unless we seriously wreck strategic crap (seems unlikely), it doesn't seem like much of a deterrent. "Oh no! ANOTHER explosion in my country!"

I read something on one of the Intel blogs that hypothesized the us would use this to target the aq training camps that have poppedup

[felix rex]

Yeah, for the life of me I can't figure out what firing a missile into Syria would accomplish. Unless we seriously wreck strategic crap (seems unlikely), it doesn't seem like much of a deterrent. "Oh no! ANOTHER explosion in my country!"

I read something on one of the Intel blogs that hypothesized the us would use this to target the aq training camps that have poppedup

That's a possibility I guess, but we have to sell it as targeting a Syrian base of some sort. Seems like targeting an AQ base would also be an easier sell politically. Why use the chemical weapons thing as a pretext?

[felix rex]

Oh, and I'm not sure what this cartoon means, but I thought Dax might enjoy it (I did). That's Egypt's Sisi on the left, and the title is "Last scene of US aggression circus against Syria."

[sonofdaxjones]

Every talking point has such a familiar ring and the video of John Kerry up on the Hill is video of a man desperate for an attack on Syria. 

As the Harvard guys said, while the mouths say no boots on the ground, the authorization they seek is extremely open ended.

[sonofdaxjones]

Also, Kerry talks about securing the stockpiles, and yet military experts say there's pretty much no way you can secure those stockpiles with a few special forces and Rangers.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yeah, for the life of me I can't figure out what firing a missile into Syria would accomplish. Unless we seriously wreck strategic crap (seems unlikely), it doesn't seem like much of a deterrent. "Oh no! ANOTHER explosion in my country!"

Well, how much does a missile cost and what is the economic benefit to us in blowing up strategic crap in Syria?

[felix rex]

I guess I didn't consider how inexpensive it would be. So, one check for "pro".

[Rage Against the McKee]

So you don't know why we are bombing either, then?

[bubbles4ksu]

So you don't know why we are bombing either, then?

We would bomb Syria to keep them from gassing woman and kids. Genocide is usually permitted so long as it is done with bullets or machetes, but not permitted when unconventional means are used.

[CNS]

Here's the prob with the "saving women and kids" thing.  The news already said that assad (sp) has had the military relocate a bunch of their important weapons and stuff to neighborhoods and that the armed forces have taken over dorms at the colleges.  So, unless we are hitting aq camps (which is weird because aren't they the rebels against assad that McCain wants to help?) or some chem weapon storage facility that hasn't been cleared out and moved to the burbs, what exactly are we wanting to hit?

[8manpick]

So you don't know why we are bombing either, then?

We would bomb Syria to keep them from gassing woman and kids. Genocide is usually permitted so long as it is done with bullets or machetes, but not permitted when unconventional means are used.

Granted. Why?

[bubbles4ksu]

So you don't know why we are bombing either, then?

We would bomb Syria to keep them from gassing woman and kids. Genocide is usually permitted so long as it is done with bullets or machetes, but not permitted when unconventional means are used.

Granted. Why?

rules of war, man.

[8manpick]

So you don't know why we are bombing either, then?

We would bomb Syria to keep them from gassing woman and kids. Genocide is usually permitted so long as it is done with bullets or machetes, but not permitted when unconventional means are used.

Granted. Why?

rules of war, man.

Seems like people are putting too much emphasis on hours of suffering and not enough on decades of not being alive.

[Dugout DickStone]

So if Obama does start blowing crap up, does that put the "he is a muslim and muslim supporter" allegations from the nutsos to bed since he is helping AQ?

[felix rex]

So you don't know why we are bombing either, then?

We would bomb Syria to keep them from gassing woman and kids. Genocide is usually permitted so long as it is done with bullets or machetes, but not permitted when unconventional means are used.

Granted. Why?

BECAUSE WE DREW A LINE! A RED ONE!

[felix rex]

I mean, it seems like we have a lot of excuses for backing out on this one, and no overwhelming reason or emotional narrative driving us to get involved, except that the Germans eavesdropped on Hezbollah/Iran and caught them talking about Assad losing his crap and using chemical weapons.

[Dugout DickStone]

I mean, it seems like we have a lot of excuses for backing out on this one, and no overwhelming reason or emotional narrative driving us to get involved, except that the Germans eavesdropped on Hezbollah/Iran and caught them talking about Assad losing his crap and using chemical weapons.

But maybe they Knew the germans were listening.   

[felix rex]

I mean, it seems like we have a lot of excuses for backing out on this one, and no overwhelming reason or emotional narrative driving us to get involved, except that the Germans eavesdropped on Hezbollah/Iran and caught them talking about Assad losing his crap and using chemical weapons.

But maybe they Knew the germans were listening.   

That would be a pretty dirty trick to play on their bro Assad.

(the germans-->) (<--hezbollah and Iran)

(Assad-->) 

(Dax-->)

[sonofdaxjones]

Only we can haze our pledges.

Why do you keep referencing me FR, aren't you just happy that the lemmings on the hill or at least the leadership are falling in line to deal with the latest "Hitler of our time"?

When gas hits $5 a gallon in Pelosi's district I demand she call (another) press conference to demand investigations into "Big Oil"

[felix rex]

You're the political board's conscience, Dax. I didn't even know about the AQs sneaking chemical weapons into Syria until you mentioned it a few posts ago.