U.S.-NATO Missiles/Bombs on Syria within 15 to 25 days . . .

[p1k3]

It's a win-win for Obama. If congress says no, he can just say "welp, I tried but the people's representatives said no", and if they say yes, they can share the blame when things go terribly wrong and it escalates into a full blown war.

if the people's representatives say no I have no doubt Barry will exercise his powers as King to go ahead and bomb the crap out of those poor people anyway

[sonofdaxjones]

John Kerry in happier times with the latest Hitler of our time.   

[OregonSmock]

It's a win-win for Obama. If congress says no, he can just say "welp, I tried but the people's representatives said no", and if they say yes, they can share the blame when things go terribly wrong and it escalates into a full blown war.

if the people's representatives say no I have no doubt Barry will exercise his powers as King to go ahead and bomb the crap out of those poor people anyway

Yeah, except opposite, racist anti-Obama boy.

[OregonSmock]

Oh look... the guy who voted for George W. Bush twice is trying to portray our current Secretary of State as some kind of unethical war monger.  How cute.

[sonofdaxjones]

Wrong and what difference does that make.

Why does the fact that this administration is desperate for a war make you such an Obamabot pissboy Beems?

[sonofdaxjones]

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/09/01/201002/obamas-proposal-seeks-broad-war.html#.UiT47D_pySo

[OregonSmock]

Wrong and what difference does that make.

Why does the fact that this administration is desperate for a war make you such an Obamabot pissboy Beems?

How in the hell can you say that this administration is "desperate for a war?"  This administration has presided over the conclusion of both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and has done everything in its power to prevent significant military intervention in the Middle East.  Israel and the majority of neo-cons have been begging for a war with Iran, and this administration has done nothing to satisfy their desires.  You are nothing more than an anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, anti-moderate/liberal hack.  You look for any excuse in the book to trash the current administration.  Quit trying to deny it.

[p1k3]

It's a win-win for Obama. If congress says no, he can just say "welp, I tried but the people's representatives said no", and if they say yes, they can share the blame when things go terribly wrong and it escalates into a full blown war.

if the people's representatives say no I have no doubt Barry will exercise his powers as King to go ahead and bomb the crap out of those poor people anyway

Yeah, except opposite, racist anti-Obama boy.

Race card = tap out. Nice try I'll see ya in another thread.

[sonofdaxjones]

Wrong and what difference does that make.

Why does the fact that this administration is desperate for a war make you such an Obamabot pissboy Beems?

How in the hell can you say that this administration is "desperate for a war?"  This administration has presided over the conclusion of both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and has done everything in its power to prevent significant military intervention in the Middle East.  Israel and the majority of neo-cons have been begging for a war with Iran, and this administration has done nothing to satisfy their desires.  You are nothing more than an anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, anti-moderate/liberal hack.  You look for any excuse in the book to trash the current administration.  Quit trying to deny it.

This administration has been provoking Iran almost from the very beginning with a massive build-up of Naval Forces in the region, expansive naval excercises off the coast of Iran and putting their tell-tale signs easily traced back to the U.S. of all matter of espionage, survalliance, hacking etc. etc. of Iranian military and systems.

Obama signed an executive order 2 years ago authorizing the CIA to assist (and they'd already started) to overthrow the Assad regime . . . Why?   We're fighting for Al Queda now you dumbass.

It's just killing you that nothing has actually changed, nothing.

The dumbass has absolutely nothing to the race card . . . meanwhile we've got a new "Hitler of our time" and Obama and aides are lobbying congress for war.

[OregonSmock]

It's a win-win for Obama. If congress says no, he can just say "welp, I tried but the people's representatives said no", and if they say yes, they can share the blame when things go terribly wrong and it escalates into a full blown war.

if the people's representatives say no I have no doubt Barry will exercise his powers as King to go ahead and bomb the crap out of those poor people anyway

Yeah, except opposite, racist anti-Obama boy.

Race card = tap out. Nice try I'll see ya in another thread.

I'm not using the race card.  I'm simply describing what you are.  You're a racist, anti-Obama, anti-liberal piece of crap.  The fact that you refer to the President of the United States as "Barry" and write him off like he's some type of sub-human fool who doesn't deserve the same amenities as every other President is why I've reached this conclusion.  If you think Obama is going to go to all of this trouble to seek Congressional approval (after carefully debating the decision for several months), only to override the majority decision of Congress, you're an even bigger dumbfuck than what I initially thought.

[sonofdaxjones]

With no other mandate, if Obama were to attack (well he's been attacking Syria via proxies and the CIA for over 2 years now, including using AQ aligned entities) on his own he'd be impeached.

No Security Council resolution, no Arab League, No Britain, no coalition, yet he still lobbies Congress for war.

[OregonSmock]

Wrong and what difference does that make.

Why does the fact that this administration is desperate for a war make you such an Obamabot pissboy Beems?

How in the hell can you say that this administration is "desperate for a war?"  This administration has presided over the conclusion of both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and has done everything in its power to prevent significant military intervention in the Middle East.  Israel and the majority of neo-cons have been begging for a war with Iran, and this administration has done nothing to satisfy their desires.  You are nothing more than an anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, anti-moderate/liberal hack.  You look for any excuse in the book to trash the current administration.  Quit trying to deny it.

This administration has been provoking Iran almost from the very beginning with a massive build-up of Naval Forces in the region, expansive naval excercises off the coast of Iran and putting their tell-tale signs easily traced back to the U.S. of all matter of espionage, survalliance, hacking etc. etc. of Iranian military and systems.

Obama signed an executive order 2 years ago authorizing the CIA to assist (and they'd already started) to overthrow the Assad regime . . . Why?   We're fighting for Al Queda now you dumbass.

It's just killing you that nothing has actually changed, nothing.

The dumbass has absolutely nothing to the race card . . . meanwhile we've got a new "Hitler of our time" and Obama and aides are lobbying congress for war.

My God... I don't even know where to start.  Everything is a conspiracy theory with you.  Maybe, just maybe, the United States is increasing its naval base in the Middle East region because that's the most unstable and volatile region in the world.  Maybe the #1 concern of this administration and the United States is the instability between Pakistan and India (who both have nukes, by the way). 

And no, we're not fighting for al Qaeda.  That's exactly why Obama has avoided overthrowing the Assad regime, and it's exactly why Congress will likely deny any military air strikes in the region.  The CIA was trying to remove the Assad regime before this entire conflict escalated to this point, dumbass.  Now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. 

It isn't killing me that "nothing has changed," because things have changed.  Like I've noted, the war in Iraq has concluded.  The war in Afghanistan is winding down and is set to conclude by 2014.  The current military strategy is a hands off, keep the troops off the ground, coalition-based approach that is currently driving the anti-Obama, crisis-hungry folks like yourself crazy.

[sonofdaxjones]

Pakistan and India is just laughable, come on, the entire focus is Iran.

There are no nonsecular entities fighting to overthrow Assad, and that pretty much as been the case since the very beginning, the DNC talking points don't take away from what non U.S. media has been saying all along, the "rebels" are Islamic fundamentalists financed and supported by U.S. proxies who will support their kind of Islamic fundamentalists when ever possible. 

The war in Iraq has not concluded, State has one of the largest if not the largest merc army in the world in Iraq, and the war in Afghanistan isn't really winding down, it's just off the front page of the websites, and the U.S. has said they'll still be a significant U.S. presence in Afghanistan well past 2014.   Regular U.S. military forces are back in Iraq to assist with border security with Syria. 

But Iraq and Afghanistan has little to do with the current administration lobbying Congress for war in Syria. 

Just because it doesn't fit your idyllic viewpoint of the current administration and the spoon fed talking points of MSNBC/DNC/Hard Left Blogosphere doesn't make it a conspiracy.

[p1k3]

It's a win-win for Obama. If congress says no, he can just say "welp, I tried but the people's representatives said no", and if they say yes, they can share the blame when things go terribly wrong and it escalates into a full blown war.

if the people's representatives say no I have no doubt Barry will exercise his powers as King to go ahead and bomb the crap out of those poor people anyway

Yeah, except opposite, racist anti-Obama boy.

Race card = tap out. Nice try I'll see ya in another thread.

I'm not using the race card.  I'm simply describing what you are.  You're a racist, anti-Obama, anti-liberal piece of crap.  The fact that you refer to the President of the United States as "Barry" and write him off like he's some type of sub-human fool who doesn't deserve the same amenities as every other President is why I've reached this conclusion.  If you think Obama is going to go to all of this trouble to seek Congressional approval (after carefully debating the decision for several months), only to override the majority decision of Congress, you're an even bigger dumbfuck than what I initially thought.

I said see you in another thread, man.

[star seed 7]

beems is kinda right, i've noticed that racists LOVE to call him barry.

[sonofdaxjones]

Like I've said, when you've got nothing left, toss the racist card.

Seems the resident Obamabots have forgotten (per usual) that the current VP, the current SOS, and the previous SOS were all significant Democratic supporters of the Iraq War. 

Assad is just the latest "Hitler of our time".

[sonofdaxjones]

According to these two Harvard Legal Experts the White House has requested broad power to make war including boots on the ground and expanding the war against any entity they see fit.

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2013/09/the-administrations-proposed-syria-aumf-is-very-broad/

[Rage Against the McKee]

It's a win-win for Obama. If congress says no, he can just say "welp, I tried but the people's representatives said no", and if they say yes, they can share the blame when things go terribly wrong and it escalates into a full blown war.

Yeah. It's funny how operating in the way your office is supposed to operate creates these win-win situations. Obama should try that more often.

[GCJayhawker]

It's a win-win for Obama. If congress says no, he can just say "welp, I tried but the people's representatives said no", and if they say yes, they can share the blame when things go terribly wrong and it escalates into a full blown war.

Yeah. It's funny how operating in the way your office is supposed to operate creates these win-win situations. Obama should try that more often.

Yeah it's almost like the system works pretty well when it used as intended

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

If they say no, I'm not sure Obama has it in him to take the decision of congress and respect it. I think he'll lob bombs no matter what. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

If they say no, I'm not sure Obama has it in him to take the decision of congress and respect it. I think he'll lob bombs no matter what. 

Well, it wouldn't be a win-win anymore under that scenario.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

If they say no, I'm not sure Obama has it in him to take the decision of congress and respect it. I think he'll lob bombs no matter what. 

Well, it wouldn't be a win-win anymore under that scenario.

Yeah, the win-win was if he went along with whatever congress decided.

[p1k3]

If they say no, I'm not sure Obama has it in him to take the decision of congress and respect it. I think he'll lob bombs no matter what. 

That's what I said, and mad Beems got butt hurt. It's probably about right tho.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

If they say no, I'm not sure Obama has it in him to take the decision of congress and respect it. I think he'll lob bombs no matter what. 

That's what I said, and mad Beems got butt hurt. It's probably about right tho.

His racist anger was totally uncalled for, but that's all the apologists have left in the tank.

[catzacker]

Why, exactly, do we give a eff about what syria does to itself?  There is literally no rough ridin' reason we should launch one missile towards anyone in that country  I mean, we are all rough ridin' righteous because chemicals got used?  But we sure as eff don, t care that eight year olds are killing each other in africa.  Our country is so incredibly awful at leading.