Willie Skits

[MakeItRain]

MiR did it better than I could have.

Everyone is aware that the individual getting hit at midfield is another willie, right? from what I understand none of them enjoy being put in that position.

I would like to see this specific skit replaced by something more clever, that doesn't have such a high potential for injury for an unprotected KSU Qatz student.

Are they forced to be in this position?  Because if so, I reverse my stance.

Why are you having such a hard time coming off of this simple minded point? I'm sure we could get people willing to perform oral sex on Willie, does that mean they should allow it at midfield? The 53,000 people that saw the skit didn't volunteer to see a non football player, seemingly at the time, dying on the field. In addition to the obvious nightmare fuel to the fans and liability risk to the university, the skit is really dated and played. They have been doing that for at least 6 years in a row, it won't be missed.

[MadCat]

If anything, this thread has showed me that eagles have serrated tongues.

[mocat]

I'm sure we could get people willing to perform oral sex on Willie, does that mean they should allow it at midfield?

if it's powercat pasties girl or KIV yes obviously

[puniraptor]

I'm sure we could get people willing to perform oral sex on Willie, does that mean they should allow it at midfield?

if it's powercat pasties girl or KIV yes obviously

this needs to be spun off into a separate brainstorming thread IMO

[ShellShock]

MiR did it better than I could have.

Everyone is aware that the individual getting hit at midfield is another willie, right? from what I understand none of them enjoy being put in that position.

I would like to see this specific skit replaced by something more clever, that doesn't have such a high potential for injury for an unprotected KSU Qatz student.

Are they forced to be in this position?  Because if so, I reverse my stance.

Why are you having such a hard time coming off of this simple minded point? I'm sure we could get people willing to perform oral sex on Willie, does that mean they should allow it at midfield? The 53,000 people that saw the skit didn't volunteer to see a non football player, seemingly at the time, dying on the field. In addition to the obvious nightmare fuel to the fans and liability risk to the university, the skit is really dated and played. They have been doing that for at least 6 years in a row, it won't be missed.

#14: Consistency

[HeinBallz]

MiR did it better than I could have.

Everyone is aware that the individual getting hit at midfield is another willie, right? from what I understand none of them enjoy being put in that position.

I would like to see this specific skit replaced by something more clever, that doesn't have such a high potential for injury for an unprotected KSU Qatz student.

Are they forced to be in this position?  Because if so, I reverse my stance.

Why are you having such a hard time coming off of this simple minded point? I'm sure we could get people willing to perform oral sex on Willie, does that mean they should allow it at midfield? The 53,000 people that saw the skit didn't volunteer to see a non football player, seemingly at the time, dying on the field. In addition to the obvious nightmare fuel to the fans and liability risk to the university, the skit is really dated and played. They have been doing that for at least 6 years in a row, it won't be missed.

So now there's a difference between football players and non football players potentially dying?

What I can't get off of, is if someone "wants" to get speared, I really don't care.  I'm making an issue of it, because these are the same conversations that lead to talks about changing rules, that in my opinion, ruin sports.  Look, I won't allow my kid to play football while he is under 18/my responsibility.  But if people are going to do this activity, you bet your ass I will watch.  Same reason people rubberneck at car accidents, it's human nature.  I don't even really care about the skit - but Jesus, what the eff did any of you expect to happen?  Are we going to switch to flag football when a player gets hauled off seizing up after a bad hit?  What about the players that live for the thrill of contact sports? 

Keep the skit optional,  have no consequence for someone opting out, sign a waiver and let people do what they want to do.

[DQ12]

what the eff did any of you expect to happen?

So you weren't shocked or surprised or the least bit bothered at all when you were watching the college kid have a seizure at midfield on saturday?  Just shrugged and said "well that was certainly expected?

[Rage Against the McKee]

We are going to require non-leather helmets, create rules to protect players who are defenseless, institute stiff penalties for players and teams that violate those rules, move the kickoff line to reduce the number of high speed collisions, and do pretty much anything else that makes sense to reduce the mortality rate on the football field. There is nothing wrong with that, just like there is nothing wrong with coming up with creative ways to reduce the mortality rate on our pregame skits, like eliminating acts of violence at midfield.

[ShellShock]

MiR did it better than I could have.

Everyone is aware that the individual getting hit at midfield is another willie, right? from what I understand none of them enjoy being put in that position.

I would like to see this specific skit replaced by something more clever, that doesn't have such a high potential for injury for an unprotected KSU Qatz student.

Are they forced to be in this position?  Because if so, I reverse my stance.

Why are you having such a hard time coming off of this simple minded point? I'm sure we could get people willing to perform oral sex on Willie, does that mean they should allow it at midfield? The 53,000 people that saw the skit didn't volunteer to see a non football player, seemingly at the time, dying on the field. In addition to the obvious nightmare fuel to the fans and liability risk to the university, the skit is really dated and played. They have been doing that for at least 6 years in a row, it won't be missed.

So now there's a difference between football players and non football players potentially dying?

What I can't get off of, is if someone "wants" to get speared, I really don't care.  I'm making an issue of it, because these are the same conversations that lead to talks about changing rules, that in my opinion, ruin sports.  Look, I won't allow my kid to play football while he is under 18/my responsibility.  But if people are going to do this activity, you bet your ass I will watch.  Same reason people rubberneck at car accidents, it's human nature.  I don't even really care about the skit - but Jesus, what the eff did any of you expect to happen?  Are we going to switch to flag football when a player gets hauled off seizing up after a bad hit?  What about the players that live for the thrill of contact sports? 

Keep the skit optional,  have no consequence for someone opting out, sign a waiver and let people do what they want to do.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!

[slucat]

rando Willie crew student/kid 'dressed up' as a shoddy version of the opposing teams mascot and getting nailed is dumb and dated. someone getting hurt while during it should put an end to it.  do something more creative guys. 

[deputy dawg]

Keep the skits, dump the midfield tackles.  There's a lot to the skits besides the tackle, and I'm sure there are lots of super-geniuses like you that can come up with a clever finale that doesn't involve the midfield tackle, and preserves Willie's K-S-U chant/routine.  It's not that difficult.

[MakeItRain]

Yes there's a difference. Again you are missing the point that even if they still find someone willing to be speared the 53,000 fans there aren't willing to see someone hurt in that manner. I'm stunned that you are refusing to acknowledge this.

Stop trying to tie this to football injury rules, one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. You might as well throw in food safety laws while you're at it. "Hey you volunteer to eat so you should be responsible for what you eat."

what the eff did any of you expect to happen?

So you weren't shocked or surprised or the least bit bothered at all when you were watching the college kid have a seizure at midfield on saturday?  Just shrugged and said "well that was certainly expected?

That's just it, he didn't watch it happen.

[ShellShock]

We are going to require non-leather helmets, create rules to protect players who are defenseless, institute stiff penalties for players and teams that violate those rules, move the kickoff line to reduce the number of high speed collisions, and do pretty much anything else that makes sense to reduce the mortality rate on the football field. There is nothing wrong with that, just like there is nothing wrong with coming up with creative ways to reduce the mortality rate on our pregame skits, like eliminating acts of violence at midfield.

Lets clear something up right now, the mortality rate of people dying ON a football field is practically non existent. The long term effects of repeated injuries is what gets most of them, and the majority of those are repeat concussions. You gamble with your own life if you repeatedly return to the field after sustaining a concussion.

[HeinBallz]

what the eff did any of you expect to happen?

So you weren't shocked or surprised or the least bit bothered at all when you were watching the college kid have a seizure at midfield on saturday?  Just shrugged and said "well that was certainly expected?

I was just as concerned for him as every time I've seen a football player have a life threatening injury.  I felt a pit in my stomach and I reaffirmed with my 7 year old son standing next to me that he was not allowed to play football for the reasons he was also witnessing. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I honestly would have no problem whatsoever with the NCAA and NFL not allowing people who have suffered one concussion to continue to play football ever again. I think we are headed in that direction.

[ShellShock]

Yes there's a difference. Again you are missing the point that even if they still find someone willing to be speared the 53,000 fans there aren't willing to see someone hurt in that manner. I'm stunned that you are refusing to acknowledge this.

Stop trying to tie this to football injury rules, one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. You might as well throw in food safety laws while you're at it. "Hey you volunteer to eat so you should be responsible for what you eat."

what the eff did any of you expect to happen?

So you weren't shocked or surprised or the least bit bothered at all when you were watching the college kid have a seizure at midfield on saturday?  Just shrugged and said "well that was certainly expected?

That's just it, he didn't watch it happen.

Absolutely did watch it happen and immediately said, "He's either knocked out cold or something is broken." I'm not going to sit here and say that I wasn't scared for that kid, but i'm also not going to immediately call for the skit to end. After he walked off the field with a little bit of help and had proper medical attention, I watched the game.

[ShellShock]

I honestly would have no problem whatsoever with the NCAA and NFL not allowing people who have suffered one concussion to continue to play football ever again. I think we are headed in that direction.

I could support this. There are so many more dangers with concussions rather than ACL tears, broken bones, etc...

[MakeItRain]

what the eff did any of you expect to happen?

So you weren't shocked or surprised or the least bit bothered at all when you were watching the college kid have a seizure at midfield on saturday?  Just shrugged and said "well that was certainly expected?

I was just as concerned for him as every time I've seen a football player have a life threatening injury.  I felt a pit in my stomach and I reaffirmed with my 7 year old son standing next to me that he was not allowed to play football for the reasons he was also witnessing.

He wasn't playing football. I sincerely hope you're lying about your 7 year old son, my 4 year old daughter knew he wasn't playing football.

[ChiComCat]

I honestly would have no problem whatsoever with the NCAA and NFL not allowing people who have suffered one concussion to continue to play football ever again. I think we are headed in that direction.

I could support this. There are so many more dangers with concussions rather than ACL tears, broken bones, etc...

This rule would be the equivalent of shutting down the league.

[DQ12]

what the eff did any of you expect to happen?

So you weren't shocked or surprised or the least bit bothered at all when you were watching the college kid have a seizure at midfield on saturday?  Just shrugged and said "well that was certainly expected?

I was just as concerned for him as every time I've seen a football player have a life threatening injury.  I felt a pit in my stomach and I reaffirmed with my 7 year old son standing next to me that he was not allowed to play football for the reasons he was also witnessing. 

Because you're afraid that your son might take off all his pads and his helmet and dance at midfield and be at the receiving end of a spear and seize up?

 

Absolutely did watch it happen and immediately said, "He's either knocked out cold or something is broken." I'm not going to sit here and say that I wasn't scared for that kid, but i'm also not going to immediately call for the skit to end. After he walked off the field with a little bit of help and had proper medical attention, I watched the game.

No one is calling for the skit to end and have the entire crowd sit in dead silence for the 5 minutes preceding kickoff.  People are just saying that maybe we should return to the days when the skit consisted of something besides having a college kid get speared at midfield.

[HeinBallz]

Yes there's a difference. Again you are missing the point that even if they still find someone willing to be speared the 53,000 fans there aren't willing to see someone hurt in that manner. I'm stunned that you are refusing to acknowledge this.

Not once, in the 13 years I've been going to games, has anyone around me NOT responded to tackle/willie skit exactly like winters described earlier in the thread before his accident occurred. I'm stunned you have such a short memory. Of the 53,000 people there, I'm willing to bet over 52,000 of them weren't thinking "this is stupid, someone's is going to get hurt"

[MakeItRain]

Absolutely did watch it happen and immediately said, "He's either knocked out cold or something is broken." I'm not going to sit here and say that I wasn't scared for that kid, but i'm also not going to immediately call for the skit to end. After he walked off the field with a little bit of help and had proper medical attention, I watched the game.

I feel like I'm debating a 3rd grader. Why do you think the spear is necessary for the skit? You do realize the spear and the skit are mutually exclusive, right?

[ChiComCat]

Yes there's a difference. Again you are missing the point that even if they still find someone willing to be speared the 53,000 fans there aren't willing to see someone hurt in that manner. I'm stunned that you are refusing to acknowledge this.

Not once, in the 13 years I've been going to games, has anyone around me NOT responded to tackle/willie skit exactly like winters described earlier in the thread before his accident occurred. I'm stunned you have such a short memory. Of the 53,000 people there, I'm willing to bet over 52,000 of them weren't thinking "this is stupid, someone's is going to get hurt"

How many of the 53K will think that before the next home game?

[DQ12]

Yes there's a difference. Again you are missing the point that even if they still find someone willing to be speared the 53,000 fans there aren't willing to see someone hurt in that manner. I'm stunned that you are refusing to acknowledge this.

Not once, in the 13 years I've been going to games, has anyone around me NOT responded to tackle/willie skit exactly like winters described earlier in the thread before his accident occurred. I'm stunned you have such a short memory. Of the 53,000 people there, I'm willing to bet over 52,000 of them weren't thinking "this is stupid, someone's is going to get hurt"

So now that it's clear that the midfield tackle is pretty dangerous those of us who weren't that worried about it before should stick to our previous opinions out of stubbornness?

It's okay to let new experiences change the way you think about certain things.

[HeinBallz]

"Hey you volunteer to eat so you should be responsible for what you eat."

I know this will shock the hell out if you, but yes.  But let's not get too far off topic.