Time to raise the minimum wage again...

[Tobias]

The world needs ditch diggers-not everyone can hack college-just these days backhoes dig ditches faster than so joe-no collar.

i think maybe i figured this one out but it took me a little while

[Rage Against the McKee]

With the loss of manufacturing for multiple reasons; overseas and tech based ones, most jobs-new jobs are low skilled.  The US has moved from a production society to a service based one.  There aren't a lot of other jobs to be had to WM and fast food are where the jobs are at.  The world needs ditch diggers-not everyone can hack college-just these days backhoes dig ditches faster than some joe-no collar.

Not sure of the solution, but the argument that someone should aim higher isn't the answer.  These days the target just isn't there.

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Well, the solution surely isn't treating WM and fast food jobs like they are careers. Maybe they could learn plumbing, welding, brick laying, etc.

[star seed 7]

With the loss of manufacturing for multiple reasons; overseas and tech based ones, most jobs-new jobs are low skilled.  The US has moved from a production society to a service based one.  There aren't a lot of other jobs to be had to WM and fast food are where the jobs are at.  The world needs ditch diggers-not everyone can hack college-just these days backhoes dig ditches faster than some joe-no collar.

Not sure of the solution, but the argument that someone should aim higher isn't the answer.  These days the target just isn't there.

<edited to correct spelling>

Well, the solution surely isn't treating WM and fast food jobs like they are careers. Maybe they could learn plumbing, welding, brick laying, etc.

Trades are desperate for young people too, but the starting pay is really crap and it's really hard (physically) work for the first few years.  The rapidly aging labor force is one of the biggest problems facing the construction industry.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Unions, tho

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/26/new-study-casts-doubt-on-whether-a-15-minimum-wage-really-helps-workers/

A ‘very credible’ new study on Seattle’s $15 minimum wage has bad news for liberals

By Max Ehrenfreunde

When Seattle officials voted three years ago to incrementally boost the city’s minimum wage up to $15 an hour, they’d hoped to improve the lives of low-income workers. Yet according to a major new study that could force economists to reassess past research on the issue, the hike has had the opposite effect.

The city is gradually increasing the hourly minimum to $15 over several years. Already, though, some employers have not been able to afford the increased minimums. They’ve cut their payrolls, putting off new hiring, reducing hours or letting their workers go, the study found.

The costs to low-wage workers in Seattle outweighed the benefits by a ratio of three to one, according to the study, conducted by a group of economists at the University of Washington who were commissioned by the city. The study, published as a working paper Monday by the National Bureau of Economic Research, has not yet been peer reviewed.

On the whole, the study estimates, the average low-wage worker in the city lost $125 a month because of the hike in the minimum.

[8manpick]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/26/new-study-casts-doubt-on-whether-a-15-minimum-wage-really-helps-workers/

I believe a similar study that came out this week showed opposite effects.  That said, it just seems unbelievably short sighted to think that raising the minimum wage in such a drastic fashion would help anyone in a situation where the rest of the market is allowed to respond to that regulation.

[bucket]

https://twitter.com/NickHanauer/status/1222601745123069952

[Dugout DickStone]

I miss Kaz

[LickNeckey]

what if i told you a whopper in Seattle costs the same as a whopper in Dallas

[Trim]

what if i told you a whopper in Seattle costs the same as a whopper in Dallas

A whopper combo doesn’t, but you shouldn’t get one anyway. You have to use a disgusting paper straw to drink.

[LickNeckey]

what if i told you a whopper in Seattle costs the same as a whopper in Dallas

A whopper combo doesn’t, but you shouldn’t get one anyway. You have to use a disgusting paper straw to drink.

Looks like the meals are also the same price.

[sonofdaxjones]

https://twitter.com/NickHanauer/status/1222601745123069952

Making Seattle Great Again

 

[bucket]

Weird take.

[sonofdaxjones]

Weird take.

Can we get a breakdown by industry, Bucket?

Just lost a James Beard award winner in October, siting higher costs and minimum wage.

[Trim]

what if i told you a whopper in Seattle costs the same as a whopper in Dallas

A whopper combo doesn’t, but you shouldn’t get one anyway. You have to use a disgusting paper straw to drink.

Looks like the meals are also the same price.

You have to pay an extra tax because the drink you get might have sugar in it.

But BK should survive.

http://www.seattlemag.com/article/why-are-so-many-seattle-restaurants-closing-lately

https://mynorthwest.com/1536621/rantz-celebrated-seattle-restaurant-closes-minimum-wage/?

[bucket]

Weird take.

Can we get a breakdown by industry, Bucket?

Just lost a James Beard award winner in October, siting higher costs and minimum wage.

They should move to Birmingham.

[sonofdaxjones]

Weird take.

Can we get a breakdown by industry, Bucket?

Just lost a James Beard award winner in October, siting higher costs and minimum wage.

They should move to Birmingham.

Agreed, next to BHAM's own James Beard winner(s).

[bucket]

Weird take.

Can we get a breakdown by industry, Bucket?

Just lost a James Beard award winner in October, siting higher costs and minimum wage.

[steve dave]

Raising the min. wage came up in another thread but putting here to split the discourse out.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1510032530749026304