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Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« on: July 05, 2013, 01:12:12 PM »
Thoughts on this violation of the United States Constitution?


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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2013, 01:13:40 PM »
I feel safe knowing that 'freak42 is on the case.

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2013, 01:16:45 PM »
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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2013, 01:22:09 PM »
I feel safe knowing that 'freak42 is on the case.
I am not on any case. I just want to know what the goEMAW'ers think of this.
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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2013, 01:27:34 PM »
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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2013, 01:29:20 PM »
This must have been that big secret that Obama had that couldn't come out before the last election. Oh, man, what a doozy this president is.

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2013, 01:35:03 PM »
Frees our troops up to wash their jacked up Tacomas at Pillsbury.  Win-win

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2013, 06:40:18 PM »
Thoughts on constantly being lied to by infowars?
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2013, 06:54:24 PM »
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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2013, 07:03:19 PM »
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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2013, 07:10:39 PM »
I routinely reply to crazy relative emails with a link to snopes. 

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2013, 07:27:12 PM »
lol @ you people believing that MSM pinko rag that is Snopes

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2013, 07:32:04 PM »
Thoughts on this violation of the United States Constitution?

How would it be un-Constitutional?

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2013, 09:05:42 PM »
Thoughts on this violation of the United States Constitution?

How would it be un-Constitutional?

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2013, 09:55:34 PM »
Thoughts on this violation of the United States Constitution?

How would it be un-Constitutional?

 :dubious:

I hear the term "un-Constitutional" used a lot to describe things.  I'd just like to know why exactly this scenario violates the Constitution.

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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2013, 06:51:43 PM »
Sometimes Infowars is pretty much spot on, but many other times they take little smidgens of a story and blow it up way out of proportion, and this was one story I didn't buy at all from the start.

Many of their other stories about DHS (for example) have been spot on . . . watching DHS fumble and stumble around about why they needed to purchase millions upon millions of rounds of ammunition was hilarious but scary.   Infowars has been all over the militarization of the domestic police forces and the growing co-mingling of the U.S. military and domestic law enforcement, as well the growing number of DHS operated Internal Checkpoints.
You clearly have no grasp on the facts of these situations than.  Also the checkpoints aren't really DHS, but rather CBP. 

Furthermore, when people complain about police 'militarization' it shows the complete lack of knowledge for the challenges law enforcement faces and what the military actually uses. 
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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2013, 07:09:48 PM »
Thoughts on this violation of the United States Constitution?

How would it be un-Constitutional?

 :dubious:

I hear the term "un-Constitutional" used a lot to describe things.  I'd just like to know why exactly this scenario violates the Constitution.

98% sure he was being sarcastic, and if he wasn't I retract my :dubious: and direct it at him.

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2013, 07:28:11 PM »
Sometimes Infowars is pretty much spot on, but many other times they take little smidgens of a story and blow it up way out of proportion, and this was one story I didn't buy at all from the start.

Many of their other stories about DHS (for example) have been spot on . . . watching DHS fumble and stumble around about why they needed to purchase millions upon millions of rounds of ammunition was hilarious but scary.   Infowars has been all over the militarization of the domestic police forces and the growing co-mingling of the U.S. military and domestic law enforcement, as well the growing number of DHS operated Internal Checkpoints.
You clearly have no grasp on the facts of these situations than.  Also the checkpoints aren't really DHS, but rather CBP. 

Furthermore, when people complain about police 'militarization' it shows the complete lack of knowledge for the challenges law enforcement faces and what the military actually uses.

Pretty much anyone that reads infowars is a dumbass.  Radley Balko has done a much more thorough job of charting the militarization of police forces.

The problem is our police forces are increasingly being armed with redic crap like this:


The article talks about a 23,000 person town in New Hampshire buying one.  Spare me the "what the officers are up against" crap.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/police-tank-purchase-new-hampshire_n_1279983.html

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Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2013, 08:13:56 PM »
why are you anti that Dax?

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2013, 08:42:10 PM »
Seems like the military and police could learn from each other. Maybe swap some "pro tips".

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Re: Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2013, 08:49:01 PM »
Yeah, weave and bop their way through posse comitatus just like the current and previous administrations and congress.

Like, what do you think they're planning to do? Conspiring to invade a city or something?

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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2013, 08:58:20 PM »
:dunno:

It figures the indoctrinated too cool for schoolers wouldn't think think it was a big deal.   

I mean a couple of guys with pressure cooker bombs brought a whole major city to a standstill, so you better conduct those 7 figure drills with Blackhawks dropping special forces on to roof tops at 3 am.   You just never know when the Islamic Fundamentalist version of Hans Gruber is gonna try and still a few billion dollars worth of Bearer Bonds.

I'm asking why it's a big deal. Can you tell me why it's a big deal without using daxspeak?

I mean I understand the Boston thing, but I'm not sure how that's relevant our what your other references mean. I'm a sheeple, wake me up and explain things to me like a human that doesn't frequent infowars could understand.

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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2013, 10:47:21 PM »
The lines between the military and civilian law enforcement have become extremely blurred.   Thankfully the absurd change to the insurrection act in 2006 was put back into the bottle in 2008.   However NDAA 2012 has possible significant implications in terms of the use of the U.S. military in domestic operations, particularly in the areas of indefinite detention and the ability of the federal gov't (the executive branch) to deem an individual(s) enemy combatants.   

It has the potential to be an extremely slippery slope. 



How have the lines between military and civilian police been extremely blurred? Like, an example?

I agree the way we handle "enemy combatants" is terrible policy and needs to change. But I think the military practicing with police (did that even happen for real?) is basically unrelated.

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Russian troops to provide security at mass US events.
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2013, 08:17:39 AM »
The military and police forces learning to work together is a pretty good idea IMO.

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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2013, 10:01:35 AM »
Seems like the military and police could learn from each other. Maybe swap some "pro tips".

Please tell me you are trolling.  What do officers of the peace have to learn from warriors?  Police are already out of control because they are ego maniacs with the force of guns/laws and can we please talk about why any police department needs this, let alone a quiet New England town?: