O/U 8 wins

[Rage Against the McKee]

Roberts' pass defense was a much bigger issue than our inability to stop Gray, imo. I refuse to believe that there is nobody on the roster who could do a better job.

[steve dave]

BYU is 1-2 and whipped the crap out of Texas. They ran 72 times for 550 yards. ONLY 4.8 YARDS PER PASS ATTEMPT, THO!

[Skipper44]

If we just start Sams and let him try one "complex" pass play on the first possesion that team lays the eff down like they have dozens of times under Mack. 

One of my 5 favorite Daxism's is the one about Snyder/Dimel/Miller outthinking themselves and they did it on Saturday.

[Dr Rick Daris]

hey remember that game where we just ran the ball every single time against texas, didn't turn it over and didn't throw a pass until like the fourth quarter and still beat them by thirty? do you guys? cause man 

[kso_FAN]

TX was also playing without about half of their starters by the time the second half rolled around. sugar coating this loss is sad.

Yeah. It's not like UT was hitting on all cylinders. They did just enough to take advantage of our myriad mistakes and predictable play calls.

stars tho?

Gray running it down our five hearts' throats probably wasn't avoidable, but UT was still ultimately beatable if we had a game plan that approached something even remotely competent. Despite UT knowing exactly what we were going to run and the "check with me" offense slowly choking away our comeback chances like an anaconda we were a safety and 2 minute drill away from tying the game up.

Yeah, I agree that this loss shouldn't be sugar coated. UT was very beatable and will be a middle of the pack Big 12 team.

Gray is really good, likely a pro.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If we just start Sams and let him try one "complex" pass play on the first possesion that team lays the eff down like they have dozens of times under Mack. 

One of my 5 favorite Daxism's is the one about Snyder/Dimel/Miller outthinking themselves and they did it on Saturday.

I think they didn't do enough thinking. They just sent Sams out and ran the same 2 or 3 plays they always run. Mack coached circles around Bill.

[kso_FAN]

Roberts' pass defense was a much bigger issue than our inability to stop Gray, imo. I refuse to believe that there is nobody on the roster who could do a better job.

Agreed. The inability of any other defensive back to surpass Roberts is more mind boggling than Sams/Waters IMO.

[steve dave]

hey remember that game where we just ran the ball every single time against texas, didn't turn it over and didn't throw a pass until like the fourth quarter and still beat them by thirty? do you guys? cause man 

YES, I REMEMBER THAT

[Dr Rick Daris]

so like those stories about sean calling all the shots this year have to be right and bill is like a love and logic father that lets the four year old super stupid child make mistakes on their own and then hopes they learn from them and not the father that is like "hey you moron don't stick that wet thing in the socket or you'll get hurt really bad and then i'll hurt you even more now knock it out you idiot and oh yeah play sams instead of waters and let him occasionally throw a pass" kind of father.

[kso_FAN]

If we just start Sams and let him try one "complex" pass play on the first possesion that team lays the eff down like they have dozens of times under Mack. 

One of my 5 favorite Daxism's is the one about Snyder/Dimel/Miller outthinking themselves and they did it on Saturday.

I think they didn't do enough thinking. They just sent Sams out and ran the same 2 or 3 plays they always run. Mack coached circles around Bill.

But to me that is still over coaching. They thought they had to change what we do, and clearly they put in a balanced gameplan with Waters to beat them. Frankly, the passing game they put together was solid, but the insistence on running Waters and not being more diverse with the gameplan they had for Sams is another form of overthinking.

They mentioned on the telecast the defensive staff went and got film from Greg Robinson's teams at Syracuse and Michigan. To me that is a colossal waste of time. Robinson simply hasn't been in place long enough to make anything but minor adjustments from what Diaz was doing. It makes much more sense to look at what BYU and Ole Miss had success with, compare it with what we already have in, and then build a gameplan around that with Sams. Then use Waters as the change of pace guy with passing packages.

[Skipper44]

Roberts' pass defense was a much bigger issue than our inability to stop Gray, imo. I refuse to believe that there is nobody on the roster who could do a better job.

Agreed. The inability of any other defensive back to surpass Roberts is more mind boggling than Sams/Waters IMO.

Do I entertain thoughts that Bill has been scheming for this bye week all season and this is where the depth chart gets shaken up?  Do I help get myself to sleep with thoughts that young guys with more physical gifts will be replacing "good soldiers" that have been here longer and Snyder knew UT is not going to be competeing for the conference title so dropping this one will have little to do with tie breakers and such?  Yes I do.

[0.42]

so like those stories about sean calling all the shots this year have to be right and bill is like a love and logic father that lets the four year old super stupid child make mistakes on their own and then hopes they learn from them and not the father that is like "hey you moron don't stick that wet thing in the socket or you'll get hurt really bad and then i'll hurt you even more now knock it out you idiot and oh yeah play sams instead of waters and let him occasionally throw a pass" kind of father.

That fake punt. Everyone in the damn stadium knew it was coming . EXCEPT SEAN A-rough ridin'-APPARENTLY.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Roberts' pass defense was a much bigger issue than our inability to stop Gray, imo. I refuse to believe that there is nobody on the roster who could do a better job.

Agreed. The inability of any other defensive back to surpass Roberts is more mind boggling than Sams/Waters IMO.

Yeah. Waters gets a lot of grief and deserves it, but I don't think Roberts could start at many division 2 programs. That's division 2 as in Pitt State and Washburn, not NDSU, fwiw.

[kso_FAN]

so like those stories about sean calling all the shots this year have to be right and bill is like a love and logic father that lets the four year old super stupid child make mistakes on their own and then hopes they learn from them and not the father that is like "hey you moron don't stick that wet thing in the socket or you'll get hurt really bad and then i'll hurt you even more now knock it out you idiot and oh yeah play sams instead of waters and let him occasionally throw a pass" kind of father.

That fake fg. Everyone in the damn stadium knew it was coming

I assume you mean the the fake punt.

In fact, maybe the worst coaching decision of the night. First, UT shifts from their normal punt formation. Then they walk one of the upbacks up to the line of scrimmage. Unbelievable that after the initial shift that we didn't call timeout and especially once the upback walked up to the line of scrimmage.

[0.42]

so like those stories about sean calling all the shots this year have to be right and bill is like a love and logic father that lets the four year old super stupid child make mistakes on their own and then hopes they learn from them and not the father that is like "hey you moron don't stick that wet thing in the socket or you'll get hurt really bad and then i'll hurt you even more now knock it out you idiot and oh yeah play sams instead of waters and let him occasionally throw a pass" kind of father.

That fake fg. Everyone in the damn stadium knew it was coming

I assume you mean the the fake punt.

In fact, maybe the worst coaching decision of the night. First, UT shifts from their normal punt formation. Then they walk one of the upbacks up to the line of scrimmage. Unbelievable that after the initial shift that we didn't call timeout and especially once the upback walked up to the line of scrimmage.

You caught me before the edit.

Completely agree tho. When we saw the upback move the entire emaw section started screaming "FAKE" at once

[TownieCat]

hey remember that game where we just ran the ball every single time against texas that 5-7 team, didn't turn it over and didn't throw a pass until like the fourth quarter and still beat them by thirty? do you guys? cause man 

[0.42]

Texas could still easily go 5-7 this year.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Texas could still easily go 5-7 this year.

Yeah. They are 2-2 and are going to have to beat somebody other than WVU, ISU, and KU if they want to go bowling, just like us.