O/U 8 wins

[Dr Rick Daris]

Their QBs are awful.  Like horrible.

huh. i don't think either are awful or horrible. one is going to be a fifth year senior/three year starter that was qb on a team that beat wisconsin in the rose bowl. the other was a freshman that rivals had as a top 100 in the state of texas and top 25 overall at his position.

Pachall just got off the sauce, so we have no idea how he will deal with playing post addiction.

Boykin may have been highly ranked, but he was very unimpressive last year.

boykin was a freshman that was unexpectedly thrust into a starting role 1/3 of the way into the season. show me a guy that is impressive in that situation because i can't think of one. seriously though i can't think of one.
as for pachall, i would take my chances on a guy that was a stud when he was young and drunk but is now a sober senior.

neither are horrible or awful.

Sorry Ricky, you must be too little to remember CK kicking UT's ass in '10. 

ck was a freshman? ck started 2/3 of the season?

It was his first game.  It wasn't his fault that Snyder put the "Barn Burner" back in for the rest of the season.

so no and no? ok, just checking.

[Katpappy]

i just did some of the math, and it is possible.

Are you sure?

Three NC's=3 wins
UT=L
OSU=L
BU=W
WVU=W
ISU=W
TT=W
TCU=W
OU=L
KU=W

Simple math; Over= 9 or more wins.

[Katpappy]

Their QBs are awful.  Like horrible.

huh. i don't think either are awful or horrible. one is going to be a fifth year senior/three year starter that was qb on a team that beat wisconsin in the rose bowl. the other was a freshman that rivals had as a top 100 in the state of texas and top 25 overall at his position.

Pachall just got off the sauce, so we have no idea how he will deal with playing post addiction.

Boykin may have been highly ranked, but he was very unimpressive last year.

boykin was a freshman that was unexpectedly thrust into a starting role 1/3 of the way into the season. show me a guy that is impressive in that situation because i can't think of one. seriously though i can't think of one.
as for pachall, i would take my chances on a guy that was a stud when he was young and drunk but is now a sober senior.

neither are horrible or awful.

Sorry Ricky, you must be too little to remember CK kicking UT's ass in '10. 

ck was a freshman? ck started 2/3 of the season?

It was his first game.  It wasn't his fault that Snyder put the "Barn Burner" back in for the rest of the season.

so no and no? ok, just checking.

Only in a exactly as scenario. 

[DQ12]

j rake, with all due respect, 7 wins is very possible. 

[Spaces]

what do you think is more likely... offense disappoints or defense surprises?

prob the lynch emawb D, so i'm sticking with OVER. go cats.

[catzacker]

[Katpappy]

under??? after viewing the amazing math skills in the above posts. 

[ben ji]

how certain are you that texas's starting qb will be better than k-state's?

The Texas QB will get to play against the K-State Defense.

The texas QB has mack brown as his coach. #life will have bill.

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[Katpappy]

how certain are you that texas's starting qb will be better than k-state's?

The Texas QB will get to play against the K-State Defense.

The texas QB has mack brown as his coach. #life will have bill.

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Just think what the Wizard could do with Texas's unbridled talent; instead of the Kansas farm boys, DITR and rejects that make the EMAW nation what it is.

[kslim]

WEEK 1 = BYE (n dakota st)
WEEK 2 = BYE (louisiana)
WEEK 3 = BYE (umass)
WEEK 4 = BYE (texas)
WEEK 5 = BYE

so, k-state needs to identify a legit qb by oct. 5.

you and i both know that texas is going to be super salty. first confy game? first road game? new qb? coin flip at best.

Yep Rick Daris is in 5th gear on this troll. Does he have a 6th/overdrive? Stay tuned folks

[Dr Rick Daris]

zacker sighting 

[Cartierfor3]

I'm not playing by your rules Jakesie 

[AndrewVonLintel]

My highly sophisticated predicting abilities project us at 10-2.  I would guess the losses being OSU and one of these Texas, TCU, or OU.

It is tough for me to see us losing more than once at home. The home field advantage will be large with new stadium renovations and titletown fever still raging. 7-1 at home. Throw in that we are obviously better than 5 of the teams and it looks pretty good.

The KU road game is another home game 1-0.

Texas has emotional baggage when it comes to us and we shall see how many passes Zimmerman can pick off during this game.  I will put this game at a 50-50 type of game.

At Tech should be a win and OSU should be a loss.


2012 vs 2013

QB  favors 2012 by a lot

Schedule favors 2013 by a lot

Opponents QBs are much worse than last year (Geno Smith, Landry Jones, Florence, Doege are all gone). This favors 2013 by a lot.

This is the type of reloading year you want to have. Will be lots of fun as long as you don't expect undefeated or Conference Title (if we beat OSU though we will probably be back to back champs).

[Panjandrum]

Also, losing to TT?  Are you high?

I think due to our wild success over the last two years a lot of people are forgetting how hard it is for regular teams to win on the road.

kliff kingsbury too

meh, the jury is out on swagwood.

Tech is an exception.  History shows a few things here:

1) It's a negative to have three head coaches in a five year span.  RS-SR members of that team are now on their third head coach.  It's hard to build a complete roster when your recruiting has probably been somewhat disjointed over three different staffs in one five year period.

2) First year HC's tend to have losing seasons before they have winning ones.  As a counterpoint to your original comment, I think Prince's first year made KSU fans forget about how hard it is for a first year coach to win.

3) KK is the second youngest coach in all of college football, and he's only been coaching for five years.  While he is incredibly charismatic, and probably a good long term hire, he's going to struggle in the short term while he gets his bearings about him as a major college head coach.

4) When given a week to prepare, regardless of location, I would take 74 year old LHC Bill Snyder over 33 year old Kliff Kingsbury, especially when it's Kliff's first year.

I think people are in for a rude awakening with Tech this year.  If I had to point to two teams that KU has a chance of finishing ahead of this year, it's Iowa State and Tech, and I honestly think Tech has a 5 win ceiling this year.

[puniraptor]

OVER

'cause cats.

[Panjandrum]

Their QBs are awful.  Like horrible.

huh. i don't think either are awful or horrible. one is going to be a fifth year senior/three year starter that was qb on a team that beat wisconsin in the rose bowl. the other was a freshman that rivals had as a top 100 in the state of texas and top 25 overall at his position.

Pachall just got off the sauce, so we have no idea how he will deal with playing post addiction.

Boykin may have been highly ranked, but he was very unimpressive last year.

boykin was a freshman that was unexpectedly thrust into a starting role 1/3 of the way into the season. show me a guy that is impressive in that situation because i can't think of one. seriously though i can't think of one.
as for pachall, i would take my chances on a guy that was a stud when he was young and drunk but is now a sober senior.

neither are horrible or awful.

Sorry Ricky, you must be too little to remember CK kicking UT's ass in '10. 

ck was a freshman? ck started 2/3 of the season?

It was his first game.  It wasn't his fault that Snyder put the "Barn Burner" back in for the rest of the season.

so no and no? ok, just checking.

Chris Leak.

But that's not my point.  Boykin may get better, but there's talk at TCU of moving him to Running Back at this point because of their lack of depth there and better options (i.e. the kid from McPherson) sitting behind him on the depth chart.  Boykin may end up being an example of a kid who was just overranked.

Pachall went through a big, life changing event in the past twelve months.  That may make him better.  It may make him worse.  I don't know.  But he spent a lot of time focusing on that and not being a better football player.  That has to be factored into the equation.

On top of that, TCU had a pretty pedestrian offense before Pachall went out, so unless there was a mass infusion of talent there, or him being clean makes a huge difference, I just don't have a lot of faith in them.

Horrible was a strong word, so I shouldn't have said that.  I should have said that they have huge question marks at quarterback.

[TownieCat]

Mark it 8, dude.

There are just too many question marks on defense to think that we will be able to stop all of the good offenses in this league week in and week out. LHCBS has only lost one game when his team scores 40+ ('10 at Baylor), but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it happens a time or two this year. Guys like Bryant, Mueller, and Britz are really going to have to step up and replace a lot of production up front. Not to mention losing AB and 3/4 of our starting DBs. That's just tough to do...

The offense probably won't drop off on a PPG standpoint. Sams/Waters both have the ability to move the ball and get in the endzone, but they won't be as efficient as CK was. I expect more big play TDs and more TOs.

This team just feels destined for 8-4 and the Alamo.

[kslim]

I'm confused as to why people still think tcu has to be taken serious? They are going to be in their second year in this league. Do they have talent? Yes. Do they know how to grind through a tough ass conference? Nothing they did last year showed they can. We should have won last years game 35-0 we mumped ourselves

Not impressed at all

[WildcatNkilt]

I'm confused as to why people still think tcu has to be taken serious? They are going to be in their second year in this league. Do they have talent? Yes. Do they know how to grind through a tough ass conference? Nothing they did last year showed they can. We should have won last years game 35-0 we mumped ourselves

Not impressed at all

Returning starters, Texas talent, and well coached.  All this and they went 7-6 last year in their first year (after fighting injuries and off field problems).  All but one loss was by 14 pts or less.  They are a good team. 

[bubbles4ksu]

i really appreciate 'zacker meltdowns, but not his general pessimism. his pre-season 'tude can eff off, imho.

[Unruly]

i really appreciate 'zacker meltdowns, but not his general pessimism. he pre-season 'tude can eff off, imho.

[Panjandrum]

TCU is fantastic on defense.  They have been for years.  They were an elite team when they had a future NFL starter at QB (Dalton) to go along with that defense.

It's going to take them time to build a full roster that can compete in this conference.  They're recruiting extremely well, but they're very young.  In 2-3 years, they'll be a monster.  But I still think they're a year or two away.

[Panjandrum]

I'm confused as to why people still think tcu has to be taken serious? They are going to be in their second year in this league. Do they have talent? Yes. Do they know how to grind through a tough ass conference? Nothing they did last year showed they can. We should have won last years game 35-0 we mumped ourselves

Not impressed at all

Returning starters, Texas talent, and well coached.  All this and they went 7-6 last year in their first year (after fighting injuries and off field problems).  All but one loss was by 14 pts or less.  They are a good team.

When you have a defense like that, you'll be in almost every single game.

[WildcatNkilt]

I'm confused as to why people still think tcu has to be taken serious? They are going to be in their second year in this league. Do they have talent? Yes. Do they know how to grind through a tough ass conference? Nothing they did last year showed they can. We should have won last years game 35-0 we mumped ourselves

Not impressed at all

Returning starters, Texas talent, and well coached.  All this and they went 7-6 last year in their first year (after fighting injuries and off field problems).  All but one loss was by 14 pts or less.  They are a good team.

When you have a defense like that, you'll be in almost every single game.

And this is why people take TCU seriously. 

[CyberToothCat]

I expect this year's K-State team to have results a lot like last year's OSU team.

Oklahoma State went 11-1 and won the Big 12 in 2011.  Then they went 7-5 in 2012.  That 7-5 record included 6-1 at home, but only 1-4 on the road.  And that one win was a six-point, clench-your-sphincter, hang-on-for-dear-life victory against a terrible KU team.

I think our results will be similar.  I think we'll have a pretty good record at home (6-2?) and a bad road record (1-3?).  Given the sheer numbers of starters we lost, I see a 6-6 or 7-5 type season.