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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #900 on: June 10, 2014, 08:20:06 PM »
worth noting; however, that china invests substantially more in green energy than the us does.

Doesn't seem to be working for them.

7% gdp growth.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #901 on: June 10, 2014, 11:07:14 PM »
Nobody notices when the poor are taxed, which is why we should do it more.
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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #902 on: June 10, 2014, 11:15:58 PM »
worth noting; however, that china invests substantially more in green energy than the us does.

Doesn't seem to be working for them.

7% gdp growth.

You're a moron
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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #903 on: June 10, 2014, 11:17:35 PM »
worth noting; however, that china invests substantially more in green energy than the us does.

Doesn't seem to be working for them.

7% gdp growth.

Yes, when in doubt start damming rivers and moving towards hydro electric power, never any long term environmental consequences from a centralized state government building dams.    :jerk: :rolleyes:

Coal still accounts for around 70% of Chinese energy production . . . brown skies and tasty waves.





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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #904 on: June 10, 2014, 11:22:30 PM »
Imagine what China's gdp will be after  the modern world voluntarily prohibits manufacturing
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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #905 on: June 10, 2014, 11:25:27 PM »
Imagine what China's gdp will be after  the modern world voluntarily prohibits manufacturing

C02 emissions per capita are on a record clip in China, which is why the continued discussion by some that China is a developing nation is absurd. 


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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #906 on: June 11, 2014, 01:12:32 AM »
 :lol:
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #907 on: June 11, 2014, 08:22:22 AM »
I have colleagues that can't even go on runs in China because the air quality is so poor...but we should totally model ourselves after them.  :rolleyes:

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #908 on: June 11, 2014, 11:55:13 AM »
Doing anything detrimental to the economy (and this EPA mandate is) without holding China and India to the same standard is a complete waste of money and only hurting ourselves. The overall effect on CO2 concentration from this mandate is negligible.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #909 on: June 11, 2014, 11:59:03 AM »
Sys is just weird.

One minute he's telling us we're all wrong and dumb, the next he's touting the brown skies and smog of China.   Who just completed a dam project that over the long haul will likely be an expansive environmental disaster:  Silt, Deforestation the list is nearly endless, the river itself is already one of the most polluted rivers in the world and the fertilizers and such from the surrounding new farmlands will only enhance the polluted sludge that's already building up around the dam. 

Go China (says sys)

Weird and a little sad.




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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #910 on: June 11, 2014, 12:13:32 PM »
Just looked at the Top 25 most polluted places on earth, a list dominated by India, Russia (former Soviet states) and China.   One city in China is akin to just melting down lead and guzzling it.

But look at that GDP!!  (sys approved)

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #911 on: June 11, 2014, 12:47:23 PM »
Dax, are you arguing that the market shouldn't allow detrimental pollution in the name of profit?

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #912 on: June 11, 2014, 12:55:36 PM »
Didn't know Dax was such an epa shill
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #913 on: June 11, 2014, 12:59:45 PM »
Dax just running circles around sys and his flawed logic.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #914 on: June 11, 2014, 02:33:42 PM »
Sys' pretentious posting style has garnered him the support of many a fool in the Pit. There is no mystery why, these people are not intelligent.

It's not arguable reducing the use of cheap energy necessarily increases the use of more expensive energy. Energy is extremely inelastic. Why anyone would doubt this is unknown. It's also not arguable that when utilities (those government empowered monopolies that sell energy) seek rates hikes to offset increased costs, that poorer people are harmed to a greater degree.  Again, why anyone would argue this is unknown. None of these things promote economy and, in fact, reduce it (contrary to Sys' mindless assertion/bad troll). This is a simple concept. To what degree the impact is negative is certainly debatable, but also well documented.
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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #915 on: June 11, 2014, 02:40:26 PM »
Disagree, that was fantastic trolling by sys.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #916 on: June 11, 2014, 03:20:13 PM »
Disagree, that was fantastic trolling by sys.

When you are getting destroyed:

Rule 1:  Claim you were just trolling

Rule 2:  See Rule 1




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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #917 on: June 11, 2014, 03:23:20 PM »
LOL, it was fake sugar dick that claimed he was trolling.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #918 on: June 11, 2014, 03:24:36 PM »
LOL, it was fake sugar dick that claimed he was trolling.

Weird I could have sworn you said something about fantastic trolling by sys.

Oh well, rules still apply.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #919 on: June 11, 2014, 03:26:40 PM »
Disagree, that was fantastic trolling by sys.
meh. it was clinical, but getting a rage response from FSD and dax isn't "fantastic", imo.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #920 on: June 11, 2014, 03:28:46 PM »
Disagree, that was fantastic trolling by sys.
meh. it was clinical, but getting a rage response from FSD and dax isn't "fantastic", imo.

it got a lot of response, even for them.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #921 on: June 11, 2014, 05:22:50 PM »
 :lol:
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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #922 on: June 11, 2014, 06:50:49 PM »
Rage response . . .  :lol:

I don't like the cut of your jib therefore I declare it a "rage response"  :lol:

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #923 on: June 11, 2014, 07:39:41 PM »
I think the only reason China is subsidizing and developing green energy is to sell it to us.

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Re: If the models are all wrong
« Reply #924 on: June 11, 2014, 10:58:13 PM »
I think the only reason China is subsidizing and developing green energy is to sell it to us.

yup.