The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread

[LickNeckey]

(1) Warming not ‘global’. It is shown in satellite data to be northern hemisphere only
 
(2) It is now not warming. Warming (global mean and northern hemisphere) stopped in the 1990s
 
(3) Models suggest atmosphere should warm 20% faster than surface but surface warming was 33% faster during the time satellites and surface observations used. This suggests GHG theory wrong, and surface temperature contaminated
 
(4) Temperatures longer term have been modified to enhance warming trend and minimize cyclical appearance. Station dropout, missing data, change of local siting, urbanization, instrumentation contaminate the record, producing exaggerating warming. The GAO scolded NOAA for poor compliance with siting standards.
 
(5) Those who create the temperature records have been shown in analysis and emails to take steps to eliminate inconvenient temperature trends like the Medieval Warm Period, the 1940s warm blip and cooling since 1998. Steps have included removal of the urban heat island adjustment and as Wigley suggested in a climategate email, introduce 0.15C of artificial cooling of global ocean temperatures near 1940.
 
(6) Forecast models have failed with temperature trends below even the assumed zero emission control scenarios
 
(7) Climate models all have a strong hot spot in the mid to high troposphere in the tropical regions. Weather balloons and satellite show no warming in this region the last 30 years.
 
(8) Ocean heat content was forecast to increase and was said to be the canary in the coal mine. It too has stalled according to NOAA PMEL. The warming was to be strongest in the tropics where the models were warming the atmosphere the most. No warming has been shown in the top 300 meters in the tropical Pacific back to the 1950s.
 
(9) Alarmists had predicted permanent El Nino but the last decade has featured 7 La Nina and just 3 El Nino years. This is related to the PDO and was predicted by those who look at natural factors.
 
(10) Alarmists had predicted much lower frequency of the negative modes of the AO and NAO due to warming. The trend has been the opposite with a record negative AO/NAO in 2009/10
 
(11) Alarmists predicted an increase in hurricane frequency and strength globally but the global activity had diminished after 2005 to a 30+ year low. The U.S. has gone seven consecutive years without a landfalling major hurricane, the longest stretch since the 1860s
 
(12) Alarmists have predicted a significant increase in heat records but despite heat last two summers, the 1930s to 1950s still greatly dominated the heat records. Even in Texas at the center of the 2011 heat wave, the long term (since 1895) trends in both temperature and precipitation are flat. And when stations with over 80 years of temperature data were considered, the number of heat records last July were not extraordinary relative to past hot summers.
 
(13) Extremes of rainfall and drought were predicted to increase but except during periods of strong El Nino and La Nina, no trends are seen
 
(14) Alarmists indicated winter would become warmer and short. The last 15 years has seen a decline in winter temperatures in all regions. In places winter have been the coldest and longest in decades and even centuries.
 
(15) Alarmists had indicated snow would become increasingly rare in middle latitudes especially in the big cities where warming would be greatest. All time snow records were set in virtually all the major cities and northern hemisphere snow coverage in winter has increased with 4 of the top 5 years since 2007/08. Also among the east coast high impact snowstorms tracked by NOAA (NESIS), 11 of the 46 have occurred since 2009.
 
(16) Alarmists had indicated a decline of Antarctic ice due to warming.  The upward trends since 1979 continues.
 
(17) Alarmists had indicated Greenland and arctic ice melt would accelerate. The arctic ice tracks with the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation and the IARC shows the ice cover was similarly reduced in the 1950s when the Atlantic was last in a similar warm mode. In Greenland, the warmth of the 1930s and 1940s still dominates the records and longer term temperatures have declined.
 
(18) Sea level rise was to accelerate upward due to melting ice and warming. Sea levels actually slowed in the late 20th century and have declined or flattened the last few years. Manipulation of data (adjustment for land rises following the last glaciation) has been applied to hide this from the public.
 
(19) Alarmists claimed that drought western snowpack would diminish and forest fires would increase in summer. Snowpack and water equivalent were at or near record levels in recent winters from Alaska to the Pacific Northwest and Northern Rockies. Glaciers are advancing.  Fires have declined.
 
(20) Alaska was said to be warming with retreating glaciers. But that warming is tied intimately to the PDO and thr North Pacific pattern NP and happens instantly with the flips from cold to warm and warm to cold. Two of the coldest and snowiest winters on records occurred since the PDO/NP flipped cold again (2007/08 and 2011/12). January 2012 was the coldest on record in many towns and cities and snowfall was running 160 inches above normal in parts of the south. Anchorage Alaska set an all time record for seasonal snow in 2011/12. In 2007/08, glaciers all advanced for the first time since the Little Ice Age. In 2011/12, the Bering Sea ice set a new high in the satellite era. Latest ever ice out date records were set in May 2013.
 
(21) Mt. Kilimanjaro glacier was to disappear due to global warming. Temperatures show no warming in recent decades. The reduction in glacial ice was due to deforestation near the base and the state of the AMO. The glaciers have advanced again in recent years
 
(22) Polar bears were claimed to be threatened. Polar bear populations instead have increased to record levels and threaten the populace.
 
(23) Australian drought was forecast to become permanent. Steps to protect against floods were defunded. Major flooding did major damage and rainfall has been abundant in recent years tied to the PDO and La Nina as predicted by honest scientists in Australia. All years with La Nina and cold PDO composited show this rainfall. Drought was associated with El Ninos and warm PDO fro 1977 to 1998
 
(24) The office of the Inspector General report found that the EPA cut corners and short-circuited the required peer review process for its December 2009 endangerment finding, which is the foundation for EPA’s plan to regulate greenhouse gases. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) report confirmed that EPA’s Integrated Risk Information System (IRIS) program-which EPA acknowledges is the “scientific foundation for decisions” - is flawed, echoing previous concerns from the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) that the agency is basing its decisions on shoddy scientific work.
 
(25) Of 18,531 citations in the 2007 IPCC Assessment Report, 5,587 or 30% were non-peer-reviewed material, including activist tracts, press releases, and in one amazing case, “Version One” of a Draft. In important instances, IPCC lead authors chose non-peer-reviewed material, or papers of low credibility, favoring their argument, in the face of prolific peer-reviewed material to the contrary. Instances include alleged climate relevance to malaria, hurricanes, species extinction, and sea levels.

[sonofdaxjones]

That goes back 15 to 20 years in some instances.

LMAO


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[LickNeckey]

So you are suggesting that in the last decade since you posted that the climate has...

[sonofdaxjones]

Lick, that goes farther back than a decade and during the majority of that time Dems have controlled the White House, and much of the time, Congress.

In regard to the climate, the climate has done what it's always going to do, and will do for the rest of the history of this planet, and that's be variable.

It's only in the last several decades that people like you think that humans are going to be able to change what the climate is going to do.

Imagine being this triggered by an article you didn't even bother to read.   

[mocat]

The plants will party when all the animals are dead

post-punk album title from 1982

lmao

Found the album cover now just need the song titles

https://twitter.com/PicturesUssr/status/1780828101385261267?t=phLFAyAVZpz_b8gyl1GkAQ&s=19

[sonofdaxjones]

One of the members of the duopoly that produces 37.5% of all global green house gases and are the top particulate polluters in the world (and India would gladly ratchet up their % if it meant being more like China on the manufacturing and global economy side).

https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-delhi-residents-choke-landfill-fire-fumes-2024-04-22/

[steve dave]

eff YEAH CHINA

https://twitter.com/economics/status/1783319021774856618

[sonofdaxjones]

3,100 operational coal fired power plants in China and most of them will be in use for a long long time.

They built 300 just in the last 2 years.

They’re also accelerating nuke plants.

Xi and friends virtue signal just enough to keep derps optimistic






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[sonofdaxjones]

https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-05-31/solar-project-to-destroy-thousands-of-joshua-trees

Not insane, tho


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[sonofdaxjones]

It’s so hot that even solid ice or a cold AF swim gets a nice pastel color these days




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[sonofdaxjones]

Earth man - gonna need a tectonic plate and super heated rocks tax 🫤

https://twitter.com/rainmaker1973/status/1817579048991682575?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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[star seed 7]

We'll have colonized the milky way by then

[LickNeckey]

Pubs - CLIMATE CHANGE IS A HOAX


* climate change starts creating larger storm systems as has been predicted for 20+ years'


Pubs - KAMALA IS USING A WEATHER MACHINE TO STEAL OUR VOTES


the life and times or whatever

[cfbandyman]

Pubs - CLIMATE CHANGE IS A HOAX


* climate change starts creating larger storm systems as has been predicted for 20+ years'


Pubs - KAMALA IS USING A WEATHER MACHINE TO STEAL OUR VOTES


the life and times or whatever

And forgets the sharpie man had control of the weather for four years OR IS IT THE DEEP STATE TRYING TO STOP OUR DEAR LORD TRUMP WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE

Makes you think

[sonofdaxjones]

Not even remotely close to the most powerful hurricane to make landfall in Florida, but #blueanon climate frauds are rolling hard with "harbinger' and "only the beginnning"

#blueanon - stunned by hurricanes at the height of hurricane season (mark your calendar for the annual event)

[steve dave]

Pubs - CLIMATE CHANGE IS A HOAX


* climate change starts creating larger storm systems as has been predicted for 20+ years'


Pubs - KAMALA IS USING A WEATHER MACHINE TO STEAL OUR VOTES


the life and times or whatever

they are very stupid

[Stupid Fitz]

Not even remotely close to the most powerful hurricane to make landfall in Florida, but #blueanon climate frauds are rolling hard with "harbinger' and "only the beginnning"

#blueanon - stunned by hurricanes at the height of hurricane season (mark your calendar for the annual event)

Dax, I just want to congratulate you. I've only been in the pit a few months or so and I feel like a real ass for just now realizing I've been had. It's weird that this was the post that did it, but boy do I feel like a silly goose. Congrats.

[sonofdaxjones]

Hurricanes at the height of hurricane season . . . Now a national security threat and now surpassing terrorism and nuclear annihilation at the hands of “authoritarian states”.

(Maybe it’s just not the best idea to have millions  upon millions of people and billions upon billions of dollars of real estate parked on the coastline of hurricane prone areas. Just like the Flying Spaghetti Monster never intended for millions upon millions of people to live in sprawling metroplexes in the . . . middle of the desert-Sam Kinison)




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[sonofdaxjones]

A building block for a first world economy, tho




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[steve dave]

RWE has long been among the top targets of climate activists, in part as a result of a long-running, high-profile battle to preserve a forest in western Germany that is threatened by the planned expansion of one of the group's coal mines. RWE also operates some of the largest coal-fired power stations in Europe

In 2018, RWE was the largest producer of carbon dioxide emissions in Europe

lmao dax

[steve dave]

do you plan out how to get maximally owned by posting? because it sure seems like you'd have to strategize really hard to do it better than you do it.

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[sonofdaxjones]

My gawd Steve, you couldn’t possibly suck more at this if you tried



Steve-an utterly uninformed giant derp. But still a pretty good dude overall. Also a huge pearl clutcher who never wants to talk about the content-just have a meltdown about who said it

Speaking of trees-viewers of this blog are reminded that multiple European countries leveled entire forests to make way for “green” energy production

https://eadaily.com/en/ampnews/2024/11/06/it-doesnt-blow-in-europe-electricity-in-germany-has-risen-eight-times-in-price

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2024/10/15/how-the-german-economy-went-from-bad-to-worse

https://unherd.com/newsroom/germanys-solar-obsession-is-killing-its-economy/#:~:text=A%20combination%20of%20too%20much%20bureaucracy%2C%20a,start%2Dups%20has%20contributed%20to%20the%20current%20malaise.&text=There%20is%20a%20deep%20irony%20in%20the,because%20of%20how%20expensive%20German%20energy%20is.


https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/more-german-companies-mull-relocation-due-high-energy-prices-survey-2024-08-01/#:~:text=BERLIN%2C%20Aug%201%20(Reuters),a%20survey%20showed%20on%20Thursday.

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[sonofdaxjones]

I will say that the #neocon-#green zealot teamwork may unwittingly drive Don Trump’s relocate to the US agenda. Now if we could get the anti nuclear psychos out of the way, that would help as well.

“VW's potential plant closures and job cuts could exacerbate Germany's industrial troubles, which have been intensified by high energy costs resulting from the end of cheap Russian natural gas supplies.”

https://evmagazine.com/mobility/volkswagen-slows-production-amid-challenges


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[sonofdaxjones]

Not given up those private jets, tho




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