Author Topic: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread (Read 437202 times)

renocat · « **Reply #1400 on:** May 22, 2015, 07:39:25 PM »

This hot air gas crap is gettin' serious. Craptain America aka Ozone Obama wants to go to war about it

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #1401 on:** June 05, 2015, 07:40:45 AM »

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/04/noaa-fiddles-with-climate-data-to-erase-the-15-year-global-warming-hiatus/

Apologies for the non-EDN approved source.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #1402 on:** June 05, 2015, 08:10:22 AM »

The ozone hole, the precursor to global warming, is apparently still there.

I guess "Big Refrigerant" won the day on that one. . Scare everybody, get the less expensive, patent expired refrigerants banned. Capitalize on new patents and more expensive gasses.

Alas, the evidence continues to mount that the "Ozone Hole" is just a naturally occurring event that wasn't discovered until the satellites and the technology made discovery possible.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #1403 on:** June 05, 2015, 08:59:20 AM »

"The hole in the ozone layer" was the big 80s scare, right? Or was it 90s? It's tough to keep all the various environmental hysterias straight. But I remember there was a big movement to eliminate aerosol products, like deodorant and hair spray, and people were saying we were all going to die of skin cancer.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #1404 on:** June 05, 2015, 09:03:58 AM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 05, 2015, 08:59:20 AM

"The hole in the ozone layer" was the big 80s scare, right? Or was it 90s? It's tough to keep all the various environmental hysterias straight. But I remember there was a big movement to eliminate aerosol products, like deodorant and hair spray, and people were saying we were all going to die of skin cancer.

Are the skin cancer numbers up?

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #1405 on:** June 05, 2015, 09:06:40 AM »

We were all going to die, so there was a rush to create the Montreal Accord or Agreement or whatever which banned a bunch of refrigerant gasses which just happened to be gasses that had their patents expire and were widely available and cheap. To replace them came more expensive refrigerant gasses that were patented and controlled by a select few companies.

Twenty or so years later the Ozone hole is still there and research continues to suggest it was likely always there, and will likely always change in size and that nothing that man does will have any impact on that.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #1406 on:** June 05, 2015, 09:18:19 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on June 05, 2015, 09:06:40 AM

We were all going to die, so there was a rush to create the Montreal Accord or Agreement or whatever which banned a bunch of refrigerant gasses which just happened to be gasses that had their patents expire and were widely available and cheap. To replace them came more expensive refrigerant gasses that were patented and controlled by a select few companies.

Twenty or so years later the Ozone hole is still there and research continues to suggest it was likely always there, and will likely always change in size and that nothing that man does will have any impact on that.

corporate america screws us again

puniraptor · « **Reply #1407 on:** June 05, 2015, 02:08:36 PM »

i thought the ozone hole was never going to heal but banning the cfc's it would stop growing? (and obv get those other people rich like you said)

puniraptor · « **Reply #1408 on:** June 05, 2015, 02:09:53 PM »

how many sunscreen lobbyists do you think refrigerant lobbyists had killed in that golden age?

Spracne · « **Reply #1409 on:** June 05, 2015, 02:13:36 PM »

puni makes me smile often.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #1410 on:** June 05, 2015, 03:58:52 PM »

So we were going to heal a naturally occurring climatic event? Fascinating.

Was the ozone hole going to get called up on stage and then shoved in the face with a shout of "demons out"!??

Tobias · « **Reply #1411 on:** June 05, 2015, 04:30:10 PM »

renocat · « **Reply #1412 on:** June 20, 2015, 05:32:15 PM »

With the banning of trans fats by Obama, people will be buying palm oil to replace it. Scientists fear rain forests will be tore out to plant palm trees. There goes carbon fixing plants. Gore will fly around the world in his carbon belching jet lamenting this disaster. By gosh we will be skinny, but cooked to death.

CNS · « **Reply #1413 on:** June 20, 2015, 07:27:25 PM »

Palm oil is pretty bad for you too.

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star seed 7 · « **Reply #1414 on:** July 08, 2015, 07:48:29 PM »

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/08/exxon-climate-change-1981-climate-denier-funding

according to dax, the denier science is bias free tho, so this is very confusing

CNS · « **Reply #1415 on:** July 08, 2015, 08:20:30 PM »

eff faces.

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renocat · « **Reply #1416 on:** July 08, 2015, 10:52:58 PM »

The Pope is suckling the Alfred Gore teat of shame. If he truly has a hot line to God, why doesn't he ask him to set off a super volcano. It would belch enough ash into the air to cool things for a century.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #1417 on:** July 09, 2015, 05:19:26 AM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on July 08, 2015, 07:48:29 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/08/exxon-climate-change-1981-climate-denier-funding

according to dax, the denier science is bias free tho, so this is very confusing

I have never said that.

So, very, weird.

steve dave · « **Reply #1418 on:** July 09, 2015, 03:35:57 PM »

welp

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/07/08/science.aaa4521.abstract

RockState2000 · « **Reply #1419 on:** July 09, 2015, 05:16:31 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on July 09, 2015, 03:35:57 PM

welp

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/07/08/science.aaa4521.abstract

I'm an engineer and I can't exactly figure out what this means. Is it saying that tectonic friction has warmed the interiors of the Indian and Pacific Oceans?

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #1420 on:** July 09, 2015, 09:19:47 PM »

Quote from: RockState2000 on July 09, 2015, 05:16:31 PM

Quote from: steve dave on July 09, 2015, 03:35:57 PM
welp

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/07/08/science.aaa4521.abstract

I'm an engineer and I can't exactly figure out what this means. Is it saying that tectonic friction has warmed the interiors of the Indian and Pacific Oceans?

It seems like they are saying global warming is affected more by internal heating than external. What's your login sd?

steve dave · « **Reply #1421 on:** July 13, 2015, 08:52:31 AM »

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

sys · « **Reply #1422 on:** July 13, 2015, 04:17:34 PM »

it's been surprisingly less hot this week. good job, gov. moonbeam.

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #1423 on:** July 13, 2015, 05:49:35 PM »

Too cold to use the pool over the last week or so.

Also looking into getting rain gutters this summer before el nino really brings it.

CNS · « **Reply #1424 on:** July 17, 2015, 10:28:54 AM »

http://www.npr.org/2015/07/17/423641023/science-confirms-2014-was-hottest-yet-recorded-on-land-and-sea?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20150717