+9, +9, -5, -9, -13.5, -4.5, +4, -21.5

[j rake]

KANSAS ST.      
TEXAS -9   
                           
KANSAS ST.                                                               
OKLAHOMA ST. -9                              
   
BAYLOR                                                            
KANSAS ST. -5                              

WEST VIRGINIA                                                            
KANSAS ST. -9                                 

IOWA ST.                                                               
KANSAS ST. -13.5                              

TCU                                                            
KANSAS ST. -4.5                              

OKLAHOMA -4                           
KANSAS ST.                                                                  

KANSAS ST. -21.5                     
KANSAS                                                                  

['taterblast]

will take.

['taterblast]

why no tech though? push at the moment?

[j rake]

why no tech though? push at the moment?

nope, just no line released by Golden Nugget for that game. kind of strange.

only three KU and TT games were lined, lowest of any Big 12 team.

[Dr Rick Daris]

bet the farm on ksu/wvu. holgerson is trash.

[bubbles4ksu]

i feel like the OSU line should be bigger than the UT line.

[Dr Rick Daris]

bet the farm on ksu/wvu. holgerson is trash.

seriously though. the ksu/wvu game is in the middle of the season and is the sandwich game of three straight home games. kstate will beat wvu by no less than 30. mark it down. the daris double gold pick of the year.

[steve dave]

eff yes will take

[Rage Against the McKee]

I like our chances of covering the spread against UT. When is the last time we didn't do that?

[bubbles4ksu]

eff yes will take

for the conference's sake i hope 6-3 does not win a share of the title.

[Rage Against the McKee]

eff yes will take

for the conference's sake i hope 6-3 does not win a share of the title.

As long as it is Kansas State holding up the trophy, I wouldn't care if 5-4 wins the title.

[Dr Rick Daris]

wvu was 117th in scoring defense last year. couple that with the fact that they are soft and are coached by a complete buffoon and i almost want to mortgage my house on that game. we will kill them just like last year.

[Pete]

Favored in 5 of the listed games....that's our 8 win season (assuming we sweep the non-con), with Tech being the difference between 9 and 8 wins.

 

[CNS]

wvu was 117th in scoring defense last year. couple that with the fact that they are soft and are coached by a complete buffoon and i almost want to mortgage my house on that game. we will kill them just like last year.

Also, new qb.   

[Pete]

You guys remember the good old days, when Snyder's teams would get BETTER as the season went along (e.g. May, Kavanaugh, Miller...)?

Waters could be deadly by, say second to last game of the regular season......and looky there.....OU favored by just 4 at KSU on the second to last game of the season.   

[CNS]

You guys remember the good old days, when Snyder's teams would get BETTER as the season went along (e.g. May, Kavanaugh, Miller...)?

Waters could be deadly by, say second to last game of the regular season......and looky there.....OU favored by just 4 at KSU on the second to last game of the season.   

Is Bell going to be OU's guy, or is it going to be that new frosh?  If Bell, not worried.  If frosh is as good as it sounds like he is supposed to be, 

[jtksu]

i feel like the OSU line should be bigger than the UT line.

We're gonna kill UT, again.

[Dr Rick Daris]

wvu was 117th in scoring defense last year. couple that with the fact that they are soft and are coached by a complete buffoon and i almost want to mortgage my house on that game. we will kill them just like last year.

Also, new qb.

the qb could be peyton manning and it wouldn't matter. we will outscheme them by 5,000 and run the ball over their backs all day/night. we are not a good matchup for them.

[Cartierfor3]

You guys remember the good old days, when Snyder's teams would get BETTER as the season went along (e.g. May, Kavanaugh, Miller...)?

Waters could be deadly by, say second to last game of the regular season......and looky there.....OU favored by just 4 at KSU on the second to last game of the season.   

Every analyst is all "K-State struggled early but the way this team has come together, NO ONE wants to play them right now."

[Dr Rick Daris]

i think kstate actually typically peaks around the middle of the season and then kind of wears down at the end of the season due to how ridic hard they practice but who knows. maybe that's just me.

[Spaces]

That UT line is just dumb and lazy work.

[j rake]

This is approximate, and not perfect, but according to Golden Nugget in Vegas, the Big 12 pecking order goes something like this:

1. Texas
2. Oklahoma -0.5 points
3. Oklahoma State -1
4. Kansas State -6
5. TCU -6.5
6. Baylor -9
7. Texas Tech -11
8. West Virginia -12.5
9. Iowa State -16.5
10. Kansas -28

So, in simple terms, Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are virtually the same team. Texas and Oklahoma are maybe considered slightly better than Oklahoma State. Texas is about 6 points better than K-State; 9 points better than Baylor; 16.5 points better than Iowa State; and 28 points better than Kansas.

You can figure out the difference between each team by doing the math. (i.e., K-State is a half-point better than TCU; 3 points better than Baylor; 5 points better than Texas Tech).

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Will be interesting to compare actual lines the week of each game

[j rake]

Will be interesting to compare actual lines the week of each game

Many of these lines are jokes. It goes without saying that the lines will change by the time the season rolls around, and certainly from week to week when games are actually played. But K-State, as usual, got the short end of the stick against the Big 12's "elite."

Texas and Oklahoma are not a touchdown better.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Will be interesting to compare actual lines the week of each game

Many of these lines are jokes. It goes without saying that the lines will change by the time the season rolls around, and certainly from week to week when games are actually played. But K-State, as usual, got the short end of the stick against the Big 12's "elite."

Texas and Oklahoma are not a touchdown better.

Yep, I'm sure the limits on these are pretty low