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Taxes
« on: May 29, 2013, 11:40:27 AM »


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Re: Taxes
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2013, 08:59:51 PM »
This is an awfully cynical and perverse view of our political system for a socialist to have.  I feel that ruben is about to break right.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 09:46:09 PM »
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

I'm just gonna leave this here and let you guys go to work.

EDIT: Before you guys look at this and say it is a flat tax, let me explain that isn't technically correct. It does provide the prebate changing the effective tax rates of all people. I know this isn't necessarily a perfect system one way or another but I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2013, 09:53:40 PM »
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

I'm just gonna leave this here and let you guys go to work.

EDIT: Before you guys look at this and say it is a flat tax, let me explain that isn't technically correct. It does provide the prebate changing the effective tax rates of all people. I know this isn't necessarily a perfect system one way or another but I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 10:08:20 PM »
i don't think i should have to pay taxes

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2013, 10:31:58 PM »
i don't think i should have to pay taxes

I had a really funny but mean one-liner typed out and ready to go. But instead of using it, I'll just ask two questions: 1. Why? 2. What would you propose we do about public goods that people do not have incentive to purchase themselves but are necessary for the country to work? 

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2013, 10:40:37 PM »
i don't think i should have to pay taxes

Neither do corporations.
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Re: Taxes
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2013, 10:41:50 PM »
i don't think i should have to pay taxes

Neither do corporations.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2013, 11:36:23 PM »
I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

incorporate a carbon tax and you have a winner.
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Re: Taxes
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2013, 07:10:15 AM »
I feel that ruben is about to break right.

he's a pretty entrenched moderate

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2013, 08:09:45 AM »
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

I'm just gonna leave this here and let you guys go to work.

EDIT: Before you guys look at this and say it is a flat tax, let me explain that isn't technically correct. It does provide the prebate changing the effective tax rates of all people. I know this isn't necessarily a perfect system one way or another but I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

A 23% federal sales tax is just way too much.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2013, 08:12:36 AM »
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

I'm just gonna leave this here and let you guys go to work.

EDIT: Before you guys look at this and say it is a flat tax, let me explain that isn't technically correct. It does provide the prebate changing the effective tax rates of all people. I know this isn't necessarily a perfect system one way or another but I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

A 23% federal sales tax is just way too much.

People wouldn't buy crap they don't need  :dunno:

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2013, 08:16:56 AM »
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

I'm just gonna leave this here and let you guys go to work.

EDIT: Before you guys look at this and say it is a flat tax, let me explain that isn't technically correct. It does provide the prebate changing the effective tax rates of all people. I know this isn't necessarily a perfect system one way or another but I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

A 23% federal sales tax is just way too much.

People wouldn't buy crap they don't need  :dunno:

Yeah, it would be awful for the economy.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2013, 08:20:06 AM »
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

I'm just gonna leave this here and let you guys go to work.

EDIT: Before you guys look at this and say it is a flat tax, let me explain that isn't technically correct. It does provide the prebate changing the effective tax rates of all people. I know this isn't necessarily a perfect system one way or another but I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

A 23% federal sales tax is just way too much.

People wouldn't buy crap they don't need  :dunno:

Yeah, it would be awful for the economy.

It would definitely kick everyone's Roth IRA in the balls

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2013, 10:04:45 AM »
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

I'm just gonna leave this here and let you guys go to work.

EDIT: Before you guys look at this and say it is a flat tax, let me explain that isn't technically correct. It does provide the prebate changing the effective tax rates of all people. I know this isn't necessarily a perfect system one way or another but I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

A 23% federal sales tax is just way too much.

it's revenue neutral.
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Re: Taxes
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2013, 10:05:36 AM »
It would definitely kick everyone's Roth IRA in the balls

heh.
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Re: Taxes
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2013, 10:05:56 AM »
Denmark has like a 180% sales tax on new vehicles.  :sdeek:

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2013, 10:27:54 AM »
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

I'm just gonna leave this here and let you guys go to work.

EDIT: Before you guys look at this and say it is a flat tax, let me explain that isn't technically correct. It does provide the prebate changing the effective tax rates of all people. I know this isn't necessarily a perfect system one way or another but I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

A 23% federal sales tax is just way too much.

it's revenue neutral.

Well, that's nice if you care about that I guess.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2013, 10:44:53 AM »
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

I'm just gonna leave this here and let you guys go to work.

EDIT: Before you guys look at this and say it is a flat tax, let me explain that isn't technically correct. It does provide the prebate changing the effective tax rates of all people. I know this isn't necessarily a perfect system one way or another but I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

A 23% federal sales tax is just way too much.

In exchange for zero income taxes? I'll take it.
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Re: Taxes
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2013, 10:54:34 AM »
The sales tax, while agreeably high, ends up being a wash for the current system. It just frees up many more resources to be used more productively.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2013, 11:02:51 AM »
By the time you include your state and local taxes on top of that sales tax, it would be more than 30%.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2013, 11:26:07 AM »
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

I'm just gonna leave this here and let you guys go to work.

EDIT: Before you guys look at this and say it is a flat tax, let me explain that isn't technically correct. It does provide the prebate changing the effective tax rates of all people. I know this isn't necessarily a perfect system one way or another but I figured I would let gE take a look at it and critique it.

A 23% federal sales tax is just way too much.

In exchange for zero income taxes? I'll take it.

What tax rate are you paying on federal income taxes?

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2013, 12:34:20 PM »
By the time you include your state and local taxes on top of that sales tax, it would be more than 30%.

I would honestly anticipate the final sales tax to be around 35% possibly as high as 40%. This is because i see the states following suit (eventually) to the sales tax only system. However, no state income tax, no social security, no anything. You get your entire pay check. The federal and state government collect the same funding as they currently do and can adjust the percentages at their discretion. Bottom line: you pay the same while freeing up man hours of reasonably intelligent people to do more productive things that benefit society.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2013, 12:40:20 PM »
By the time you include your state and local taxes on top of that sales tax, it would be more than 30%.

I would honestly anticipate the final sales tax to be around 35% possibly as high as 40%. This is because i see the states following suit (eventually) to the sales tax only system. However, no state income tax, no social security, no anything. You get your entire pay check. The federal and state government collect the same funding as they currently do and can adjust the percentages at their discretion. Bottom line: you pay the same while freeing up man hours of reasonably intelligent people to do more productive things that benefit society.

eff that, I'm just buying everything in countries with non-ridiculous sales tax. anything to declare? nope, already had all this awesome crap when I left.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2013, 12:43:34 PM »
also, how do you deal with the tourism industry? nobody's coming to the ole' usa if they have to pay inflated amounts for stuff. let crotch grabbing bird flipping foreignors get everything at a 30% discount? somehow force US citizens to pony up 30% of whatever they spent overseas now that they do 100% of their leisure travel outside the US?