Author Topic: So about that "safe and legal" abortion nonsense... (Read 4272 times)

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **on:** May 17, 2013, 10:58:44 AM »

Here we go again. http://www.chron.com/default/article/Houston-doctor-accused-of-illegal-abortions-4519565.php Just like Gosnell, complaints were made for years, but ignored.

The above link is safe for libtards to read. If you want to continue pretending that late term abortion isn't a ghoulish abomination, don't read this one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325786/Douglas-Karpen-Second-house-horrors-abortion-clinic-investigated-Texas.html

The best the left can muster is that these cases somehow prove the need for access to "safe and legal" abortion (er, sorry, "reproductive health"). But it seems that once again the all-powerful "right to choose" led regulators to look the other way.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:02:37 AM »

If it's illegal, its illegal. They should go down.

Same as a person who shoots another.

mortons toe · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:27:11 AM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 17, 2013, 10:58:44 AM

Here we go again. http://www.chron.com/default/article/Houston-doctor-accused-of-illegal-abortions-4519565.php Just like Gosnell, complaints were made for years, but ignored.

The above link is safe for libtards to read. If you want to continue pretending that late term abortion isn't a ghoulish abomination, don't read this one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325786/Douglas-Karpen-Second-house-horrors-abortion-clinic-investigated-Texas.html

The best the left can muster is that these cases somehow prove the need for access to "safe and legal" abortion (er, sorry, "reproductive health"). But it seems that once again the all-powerful "right to choose" led regulators to look the other way.

"Progressive" history is rich in 'ethical genocide'... aka, eugenics. Margaret Sanger, as well as other progressives, found non-white cultures to be inferior and parasitic. If black Americans understood the extent of how they are used to further a political agenda that cares nothing about "equality and social justice", they would truly move forward in their socio-economic status.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:29:41 AM »

Quote from: mortons toe on May 17, 2013, 11:27:11 AM

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 17, 2013, 10:58:44 AM
Here we go again. http://www.chron.com/default/article/Houston-doctor-accused-of-illegal-abortions-4519565.php Just like Gosnell, complaints were made for years, but ignored.

The above link is safe for libtards to read. If you want to continue pretending that late term abortion isn't a ghoulish abomination, don't read this one: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325786/Douglas-Karpen-Second-house-horrors-abortion-clinic-investigated-Texas.html

The best the left can muster is that these cases somehow prove the need for access to "safe and legal" abortion (er, sorry, "reproductive health"). But it seems that once again the all-powerful "right to choose" led regulators to look the other way.

"Progressive" history is rich in 'ethical genocide'... aka, eugenics. Margaret Sanger found non-white cultures to be inferior and parasitic, as well as other progressives. If black Americans understood the extent of how they are used to further a political agenda that cares nothing about "equality and social justice", they would truly move forward in their socio-economic status.

You can say that again.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:39:41 AM »

Quote from: Limestone on May 17, 2013, 11:02:37 AM

If it's illegal, its illegal. They should go down.

Same as a person who shoots another.

Right, but that doesn't address why complaints like these are being ignored, and these monsters are allowed to operate with impunity, for years (decades, in the case of Gosnell). The regulators look the other way because "the right to choose" is so firmly ingrained in the liberal bureaucracy. Hopefully, as more cases like this come to light (and they will), the culture will finally change.

Brings to mind another abortionist, George Tiller, who was canonized by the left after his murder, but performed many a late term abortion under highly dubious circumstances. The regulators just didn't seem to care. Why look, there's Kathleen and her friend George at the Governor's Mansion!

See Kathleen at George's house!

OK_Cat · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2013, 12:47:57 PM »

they used to call him "tiller the thriller" because he's a well-known stud (historical fact)

ChiComCat · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2013, 01:08:24 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 17, 2013, 11:39:41 AM

Quote from: Limestone on May 17, 2013, 11:02:37 AM
If it's illegal, its illegal. They should go down.

Same as a person who shoots another.

Right, but that doesn't address why complaints like these are being ignored, and these monsters are allowed to operate with impunity, for years (decades, in the case of Gosnell). The regulators look the other way because "the right to choose" is so firmly ingrained in the liberal bureaucracy. Hopefully, as more cases like this come to light (and they will), the culture will finally change.

Link?

You make it sound like liberals call this guy a hero. He is a monster that convinced himself the ends justify the means. Nobody is defending him. If people didn't investigate complaints against him, they should be fired. Your blame placing is ridiculous and unfounded.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2013, 01:15:43 PM »

Quote from: ChiCat on May 17, 2013, 01:08:24 PM

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 17, 2013, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Limestone on May 17, 2013, 11:02:37 AM
If it's illegal, its illegal. They should go down.

Same as a person who shoots another.

Right, but that doesn't address why complaints like these are being ignored, and these monsters are allowed to operate with impunity, for years (decades, in the case of Gosnell). The regulators look the other way because "the right to choose" is so firmly ingrained in the liberal bureaucracy. Hopefully, as more cases like this come to light (and they will), the culture will finally change.

Link?

You make it sound like liberals call this guy a hero. He is a monster that convinced himself the ends justify the means. Nobody is defending him. If people didn't investigate complaints against him, they should be fired. Your blame placing is ridiculous and unfounded.

That was the finding of the grand jury in the Gosnell case, and it is safe to assume it is also what happened in this instance. Here is the link to the grand jury report. You can skip past all the gory details and head straight to "How Did This Go On So Long?" starting on page 137. http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/pdfs/grandjurywomensmedical.pdf

And it is hardly an isolated incident. Just as an example. http://abortiondocs.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Many-New-Jersey-Abortion-Clinics-Do-Not-Receive-Required-Biennial-Inspections-Press-Atlantic-City-Reports.pdf

steve dave · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2013, 01:18:18 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 17, 2013, 01:15:43 PM

it is safe to assume it is also what happened in this instance.

lol, awesome

ChiComCat · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2013, 01:20:09 PM »

I think they look the other way because of frivolous and ridiculous claims the right makes on any abortion clinic. Cry wolf that much and you will get ignored eventually.

It is safe to assume that is what happened in this instance.

Cire · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2013, 01:27:01 PM »

I don't think there's anyone here that would say that it is ok for a doctor to malpractice. weird (butthurt?) thread.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2013, 02:07:28 PM »

Quote from: Cire on May 17, 2013, 01:27:01 PM

weird (butthurt?) thread.

i think it's safe to assume that is what happened in this instance.

GCJayhawker · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2013, 02:31:42 PM »

I don't understand your point here. Late term abortions are already illegal and those who perform them should be punished by law. If they are not punished that has nothing to do with the right to choose but rather is a law enforcement problem. You are trying to turn this into something that it isn't

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:47:25 PM »

Quote from: GCJayhawker on May 17, 2013, 02:31:42 PM

I don't understand your point here. Late term abortions are already illegal and those who perform them should be punished by law. If they are not punished that has nothing to do with the right to choose but rather is a law enforcement problem. You are trying to turn this into something that it isn't

As I've explained above, repeatedly, this is not just a law enforcement issue. The pertinent question is not whether these atrocities are illegal, which they are, but how these monsters are able to operate for so long before they're exposed. Lax regulation is to blame. And what is the cause of lax regulation? The grand jury pegged it in the Gosnell matter, and I expect this problem exists nationwide. Even in red states, the bureaucracy is largely liberal. I would encourage you to read the detailed grand jury report linked above, at least the sections on all the government agencies that looked the other way. It's almost as sickening as the heinous crimes themselves.

steve dave · « **Reply #14 on:** May 17, 2013, 11:57:38 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 17, 2013, 11:47:25 PM

whether these atrocities are illegal, which they are,

nice add stud

puniraptor · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2013, 12:01:32 AM »

This thread is an abortion, ironically.

Shacks · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2013, 01:17:09 AM »

Lunatic breaks gun laws and shoots up a school: Republicans say the shooter deserves all the blame and not guns or responsible gun owners
Lunatic breaks late-term abortion laws and kills babies who have been born: Republicans say we should blame legal abortions and abortion laws and not the one murderer

Why does the argument do a 180?

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #17 on:** May 18, 2013, 07:39:07 AM »

Quote from: Shacks on May 18, 2013, 01:17:09 AM

Lunatic breaks gun laws and shoots up a school: Republicans say the shooter deserves all the blame and not guns or responsible gun owners
Lunatic breaks late-term abortion laws and kills babies who have been born: Republicans say we should blame legal abortions and abortion laws and not the one murderer

Why does the argument do a 180?

We already have another thread debunking this very talking point. Give that a read first.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #18 on:** May 18, 2013, 10:55:17 AM »

How does people getting shot in the head go on so long?

Cire · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2013, 01:10:36 PM »

Hey guys, why doesn't Obama find the criminals while they are doing things illegally and arrest them?

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #20 on:** May 18, 2013, 02:14:55 PM »

Quote from: Cire on May 18, 2013, 01:10:36 PM

Hey guys, why doesn't Obama find the criminals while they are doing things illegally and arrest them?

Cire in late 1930's in Germany, "I don't know what the Jews are so scared of, this genocide stuff is clearly illegal. Regardless of whether Hitler is advocating for its enforcement or seeking to apprehend the perpetrators."

#progressive

star seed 7 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 18, 2013, 02:39:41 PM »

FSD always has the 100% spot on analogies.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #22 on:** May 18, 2013, 07:50:27 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 18, 2013, 02:14:55 PM

Quote from: Cire on May 18, 2013, 01:10:36 PM
Hey guys, why doesn't Obama find the criminals while they are doing things illegally and arrest them?

Cire in late 1930's in Germany, "I don't know what the Jews are so scared of, this genocide stuff is clearly illegal. Regardless of whether Hitler is advocating for its enforcement or seeking to apprehend the perpetrators."

#progressive

Nice Nazi blast. Not sure why people don't give you the credit you so clearly deserve.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #23 on:** May 19, 2013, 06:52:12 AM »

Quote from: Limestone on May 18, 2013, 10:55:17 AM

How does people getting shot in the head go on so long?

If there were multiple complaints about "hey, this guy is shooting people in the head and he works here" for years and nothing was done, then yeah, you might have a point. Otherwise, this is not a good analogy.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #24 on:** May 19, 2013, 09:05:02 AM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on May 19, 2013, 06:52:12 AM

Quote from: Limestone on May 18, 2013, 10:55:17 AM
How does people getting shot in the head go on so long?

If there were multiple complaints about "hey, this guy is shooting people in the head and he works here" for years and nothing was done, then yeah, you might have a point. Otherwise, this is not a good analogy.

There are complaints about people getting shot in the head. We even know how it happens.