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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #200 on: September 30, 2013, 09:17:05 AM »
Yglesias agrees w/ sys

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2013/09/snap_reform_give_the_poor_money_not_food_stamps.html

I've kind of started to lean that way, myself. It seems like it would lower food prices.

But what would it do to alcohol, cigarette, and drug prices?

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #202 on: September 30, 2013, 11:32:21 AM »
His point about having the option to cut back on food spending to purchase diapers was a very good point.

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« Reply #203 on: September 30, 2013, 11:38:44 AM »
His point about having the option to cut back on food spending to purchase diapers was a very good point.
WIC tho

the car repair was a better example and I admit this statement rubs me the wrong the way

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Free poor people from the shackles of food stamps and let people buy what they want with their money.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #204 on: September 30, 2013, 11:50:08 AM »
His point about having the option to cut back on food spending to purchase diapers was a very good point.
WIC tho

the car repair was a better example and I admit this statement rubs me the wrong the way

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Free poor people from the shackles of food stamps and let people buy what they want with their money.

yes, car repair is better, but it seems like you could eliminate a lot of inefficiency if you combined food stamps w/ WIC and just gave people cash.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #205 on: September 30, 2013, 12:25:07 PM »
How much money should we hand out to people? From each according to their ability, To each according to their need?

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« Reply #206 on: September 30, 2013, 02:22:58 PM »
How much money should we hand out to people? From each according to their ability, To each according to their need?

Just convert the food stamp money to cash. Seems pretty simple. :dunno:

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #207 on: September 30, 2013, 04:37:05 PM »
How much money should we hand out to people? From each according to their ability, To each according to their need?

Just convert the food stamp money to cash. Seems pretty simple. :dunno:

I think if the recipients don't really need the money for food, we don't need to give it to them.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #208 on: September 30, 2013, 04:38:43 PM »
How much money should we hand out to people? From each according to their ability, To each according to their need?

Just convert the food stamp money to cash. Seems pretty simple. :dunno:

I think if the recipients don't really need the money for food, we don't need to give it to them.

Reduce the benefit by 15% and then give it to them as cash.


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I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #212 on: October 15, 2013, 11:19:02 AM »
I hope Walmart eats the cost. The Federal government should not have to pay them back when the issue was brought to Walmart's attention and they chose to continue giving their food away. Even asking the government to pay them back is the equivalent of insurance fraud, imo.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #213 on: October 17, 2013, 01:52:02 PM »
Interesting study on food stamps.

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Food stamps have become the second most costly means-tested program behind Medicaid, and its expansion is credited to both Republicans and Democrats.

Tanner traces the modern food stamp program back to President Lyndon B. Johnson, who signed the Food Stamp Act of 1964. Not until the presidency of George W. Bush, however, did the program increase dramatically, and the pace has only accelerated under President Barack Obama.

The 2002 and 2008 farm bills under Bush expanded eligibility in the program to the extent that noncitizens qualify. By the start of Obama’s presidency, there were 31.8 million Americans enrolled, up from 17 million in 2000.

Under Obama, enrollment has surged to almost 48 million. While some chalk up the increase to the recession, Tanner finds little evidence that is the case.

“Increases in both participation and spending were bigger during this recession than in previous ones,” he writes.

During the recession in the early 1980s enrollment only increased by 635,000, and spending rose by $124 million. In contrast, the latest recession saw enrollment jump by 12 million and spending increase by $30 billion.

“SNAP is no longer a program targeted at the poorest Americans who may need some temporary help, but it has become part of an ever-growing permanent welfare state,” the report said.

Nearly 17 percent of recipients have income levels above the poverty line due to weak eligibility standards. Furthermore, a majority of recipients (56 percent) are on the program longer than 5 years, and fewer than 10 percent are on food stamps for six months or less.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #214 on: October 17, 2013, 02:51:20 PM »
Nice moderate post, jthtd.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #215 on: November 01, 2013, 02:33:48 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/news/economy/food-stamps-families/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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The benefit -- totaling $800 for four adults -- never lasts Lewis and her family a full month.

Really?

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« Reply #216 on: November 01, 2013, 02:53:54 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/news/economy/food-stamps-families/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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The benefit -- totaling $800 for four adults -- never lasts Lewis and her family a full month.

Really?

I don't think that can be right, can it? My family spends around $1000 a month on food, and we're hardly scrimping.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #217 on: November 01, 2013, 02:56:34 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/news/economy/food-stamps-families/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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The benefit -- totaling $800 for four adults -- never lasts Lewis and her family a full month.

Really?

I don't think that can be right, can it? My family spends around $1000 a month on food, and we're hardly scrimping.

How many are in your family? I really don't think there is any way my family of 2 spends $400 per month on food, but I don't really keep track. It's November 1. I might try to keep track of that this month to see just how ridiculous it is that this lady with enphysema and 3 daughters who live with her but can't work because they have children that they apparently can't leave with their mother and sisters to find a job can't feed themselves on $800 per month.
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #218 on: November 01, 2013, 02:58:31 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/news/economy/food-stamps-families/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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The benefit -- totaling $800 for four adults -- never lasts Lewis and her family a full month.

Really?

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Last month, Sewell landed a job as an audio technician.
The job paid $12 an hour, a lot less than the $25 he used to make before he was laid off.
Sewell asked his employer to lower his wages to $9 an hour instead.
Why? He did the math and found that $12 an hour was just enough to cause a reduction in his government benefits, and could cost him and his family its Medicaid coverage for health care.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #219 on: November 01, 2013, 02:59:59 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/news/economy/food-stamps-families/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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The benefit -- totaling $800 for four adults -- never lasts Lewis and her family a full month.

Really?

I don't think that can be right, can it? My family spends around $1000 a month on food, and we're hardly scrimping.

How many are in your family?

2 adults, 2 kids, 1 baby.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #220 on: November 01, 2013, 03:02:49 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/news/economy/food-stamps-families/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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The benefit -- totaling $800 for four adults -- never lasts Lewis and her family a full month.

Really?

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Last month, Sewell landed a job as an audio technician.
The job paid $12 an hour, a lot less than the $25 he used to make before he was laid off.
Sewell asked his employer to lower his wages to $9 an hour instead.
Why? He did the math and found that $12 an hour was just enough to cause a reduction in his government benefits, and could cost him and his family its Medicaid coverage for health care.

Yeah, the whole article was a whole bunch of losers lined up who really want to get off of the government dole but really don't want to do anything that might actually make that happen.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #221 on: November 01, 2013, 03:05:49 PM »
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"We buy a lot of beans, rice and potatoes," said Sewell, who lives in Philadelphia. "Towards the end of the month, you're eating all the box stuff, and a lot more pasta with sauce."

The horror. I don't want to live in a country where the poor don't receive enough public assistance to buy steaks and organic produce! Why should they be treated differently? :bawl:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #222 on: November 01, 2013, 03:06:59 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/news/economy/food-stamps-families/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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The benefit -- totaling $800 for four adults -- never lasts Lewis and her family a full month.

Really?

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Last month, Sewell landed a job as an audio technician.
The job paid $12 an hour, a lot less than the $25 he used to make before he was laid off.
Sewell asked his employer to lower his wages to $9 an hour instead.
Why? He did the math and found that $12 an hour was just enough to cause a reduction in his government benefits, and could cost him and his family its Medicaid coverage for health care.

Yeah, the whole article was a whole bunch of losers lined up who really want to get off of the government dole but really don't want to do anything that might actually make that happen.

We should consider reducing welfare even more and making it uncomfortable to be on it. Maybe there's be less "jobs Americans just won't do." It's worth a shot, right?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #223 on: November 01, 2013, 03:09:56 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/news/economy/food-stamps-families/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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The benefit -- totaling $800 for four adults -- never lasts Lewis and her family a full month.

Really?

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Last month, Sewell landed a job as an audio technician.
The job paid $12 an hour, a lot less than the $25 he used to make before he was laid off.
Sewell asked his employer to lower his wages to $9 an hour instead.
Why? He did the math and found that $12 an hour was just enough to cause a reduction in his government benefits, and could cost him and his family its Medicaid coverage for health care.

Yeah, the whole article was a whole bunch of losers lined up who really want to get off of the government dole but really don't want to do anything that might actually make that happen.

We should consider reducing welfare even more and making it uncomfortable to be on it. Maybe there's be less "jobs Americans just won't do." It's worth a shot, right?

Well, the article was about food stamp benefits being reduced, actually. This deadbeat family is now going to be living on about $760 per month for groceries instead of the $800 they're used to.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #224 on: November 01, 2013, 03:18:24 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/news/economy/food-stamps-families/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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The benefit -- totaling $800 for four adults -- never lasts Lewis and her family a full month.

Really?

I don't think that can be right, can it? My family spends around $1000 a month on food, and we're hardly scrimping.

How many are in your family? I really don't think there is any way my family of 2 spends $400 per month on food, but I don't really keep track. It's November 1. I might try to keep track of that this month to see just how ridiculous it is that this lady with enphysema and 3 daughters who live with her but can't work because they have children that they apparently can't leave with their mother and sisters to find a job can't feed themselves on $800 per month.


How come the fathers of these recently and soon to be born kids can't help out?