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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #150 on: May 15, 2013, 06:48:43 PM »
By the way, why do you think Michelle Obama hasn't included SNAP in her nutrition reforms?

i'm almost certain that part of the answer is that she's neither an elected nor appointed government official.
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #151 on: May 15, 2013, 06:59:27 PM »
I'm pretty sure any allusion that the government should be "efficiently" makes one a "Nazi" in the eyes of the left.

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« Reply #152 on: May 15, 2013, 07:24:05 PM »
It's not good when you consider that's just for sugary drinks and doesn't even touch on the percentage that gets spent on junk food.

Well, it's not good. But still not bad or alarming enough to demand some sort of fix that would cost a lot of money.

That's just the "sugary drinks." Again, based on the government study you linked, it looks like there's a much bigger overall problem with people using SNAP to buy junk. Again, this is common sense.

By the way, why do you think Michelle Obama hasn't included SNAP in her nutrition reforms?

I don't know what goes through Michelle Obama's head, but I'll take a guess anyway. Maybe she wanted reforms that help everyone eat healthy, not just poor people? I mean, the study also showed SNAP doesn't increase obesity - it's a problem with everyone.

Why do you think she hasn't "included SNAP in her nutrition reforms"? :dunno:

Because that would piss off a core voting bloc.

Multi-national food conglomerates aren't really a voting bloc so much as a financial block. They're a much larger deterrent to SNAP reform than the peons actually receiving benefits. I'm sure Pepsi, Frito-Lay, Coke etc. have really good estimates of how much SNAP money is spent on their products.

I agree that the food lobby is a big part of the problem. The farm bills in general make me sick theyre so full of subsidies and pork and pork subsidies. But there's also a pandering element that cannot be denied.
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #153 on: May 15, 2013, 08:57:56 PM »
By the way, why do you think Michelle Obama hasn't included SNAP in her nutrition reforms?

i'm almost certain that part of the answer is that she's neither an elected nor appointed government official.

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« Reply #154 on: May 16, 2013, 08:13:22 AM »
By the way, why do you think Michelle Obama hasn't included SNAP in her nutrition reforms?

i'm almost certain that part of the answer is that she's neither an elected nor appointed government official.

Ok, so SNAP involves tax dollars, but Michelle Obama's school lunch reforms don't.*

*Don't go here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/12/13/president-obama-signs-healthy-hunger-free-kids-act-2010-law
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #155 on: May 16, 2013, 08:54:12 AM »
Ok, so SNAP involves tax dollars, but Michelle Obama's school lunch reforms don't.*

*Don't go here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/12/13/president-obama-signs-healthy-hunger-free-kids-act-2010-law

Mrs. Obama's role in the legislation you linked was to say it was a good idea.
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #156 on: May 16, 2013, 09:00:24 AM »
Ok, so SNAP involves tax dollars, but Michelle Obama's school lunch reforms don't.*

*Don't go here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/12/13/president-obama-signs-healthy-hunger-free-kids-act-2010-law

Mrs. Obama's role in the legislation you linked was to say it was a good idea.

And she can't do the same for SNAP reforms? Michelle Obama was a leading advocate for reforming school lunch programs, but she hasn't said a word about reforming SNAP. Your excuse that one is appropriate fodder for a First Lady, while the other is not, just doesn't hold water.
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« Reply #157 on: May 16, 2013, 09:12:45 AM »
I understand why conservatives hate Obama. I don't understand the hate for his wife. I can't see any logic in being angry someone wants to try and get kids to eat better.

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« Reply #158 on: May 16, 2013, 09:17:31 AM »
Ok, so SNAP involves tax dollars, but Michelle Obama's school lunch reforms don't.*

*Don't go here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/12/13/president-obama-signs-healthy-hunger-free-kids-act-2010-law

Mrs. Obama's role in the legislation you linked was to say it was a good idea.

And she can't do the same for SNAP reforms? Michelle Obama was a leading advocate for reforming school lunch programs, but she hasn't said a word about reforming SNAP. Your excuse that one is appropriate fodder for a First Lady, while the other is not, just doesn't hold water.

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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #159 on: May 16, 2013, 09:17:59 AM »
I understand why conservatives hate Obama. I don't understand the hate for his wife. I can't see any logic in being angry someone wants to try and get kids to eat better.

Probably because the reason isn't logical, it's biological.
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #160 on: May 16, 2013, 09:19:55 AM »
And she can't do the same for SNAP reforms? Michelle Obama was a leading advocate for reforming school lunch programs, but she hasn't said a word about reforming SNAP. Your excuse that one is appropriate fodder for a First Lady, while the other is not, just doesn't hold water.

i'm not saying anything of the sort.  i'm saying she can say whatever she wants, but aside from being afforded media coverage of her opinions by virtue of her marriage, she has no role in the process (of either).
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #161 on: May 16, 2013, 09:41:56 AM »
I understand why conservatives hate Obama. I don't understand the hate for his wife. I can't see any logic in being angry someone wants to try and get kids to eat better.

FWIW, I don't think that's why they hate her.  Sort of a straw man argument there.

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« Reply #162 on: May 16, 2013, 09:43:05 AM »
There are a lot of libtards in this thread who are missing the point. As I explained previously, I think Michelle Obama's campaign for better nutrition is a good thing. I'm simply providing an example of how politics is a contributing factor to the inability to pass common sense reforms to the SNAP program. Michelle Obama, just like most liberals, won't touch SNAP reform with a 10 foot pole. But in the First Lady's case, the contrast is particularly evident because she has campaigned so heavily for better nutrition.

There are a lot of very strong interests aligned against reform. The Democrats oppose it because they don't want to piss off constituents, and some of them honestly believe it is somehow demeaning to regulate how public assistance is spent. Some Republicans join them because they are in the pocket of Big Junk Food, whatever you want to call it, the multi-million dollar lobbying effort to ensure that people can continue to spend their public assistance on the crap they sell. Even the convenience stores and fast food chains have their own lobbyists to make sure they can continue to rake in the SNAP funds, despite their generally higher prices and less nutritious choices.
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #163 on: May 16, 2013, 01:29:02 PM »
There are a lot of very strong interests aligned against reform. The Democrats oppose it because they don't want to piss off constituents, and some of them honestly believe it is somehow demeaning to regulate how public assistance is spent. Some Republicans join them because they are in the pocket of Big Junk Food, whatever you want to call it, the multi-million dollar lobbying effort to ensure that people can continue to spend their public assistance on the crap they sell. Even the convenience stores and fast food chains have their own lobbyists to make sure they can continue to rake in the SNAP funds, despite their generally higher prices and less nutritious choices.

So, you're pissed at Mrs. Obama because she tried to improve child nutrition without trying to reform a program you say can't be changed because of politics?

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« Reply #164 on: May 16, 2013, 01:50:38 PM »
There are a lot of very strong interests aligned against reform. The Democrats oppose it because they don't want to piss off constituents, and some of them honestly believe it is somehow demeaning to regulate how public assistance is spent. Some Republicans join them because they are in the pocket of Big Junk Food, whatever you want to call it, the multi-million dollar lobbying effort to ensure that people can continue to spend their public assistance on the crap they sell. Even the convenience stores and fast food chains have their own lobbyists to make sure they can continue to rake in the SNAP funds, despite their generally higher prices and less nutritious choices.

So, you're pissed at Mrs. Obama because she tried to improve child nutrition without trying to reform a program you say can't be changed because of politics?

No. Man, reading comprehenshun is low around here. The fact that the First Lady won't mention SNAP, while otherwise crusading for better nutrition, demonstrates the liberals' unwillingness to piss off their constituents.
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« Reply #165 on: May 16, 2013, 02:04:06 PM »
There are a lot of very strong interests aligned against reform. The Democrats oppose it because they don't want to piss off constituents, and some of them honestly believe it is somehow demeaning to regulate how public assistance is spent. Some Republicans join them because they are in the pocket of Big Junk Food, whatever you want to call it, the multi-million dollar lobbying effort to ensure that people can continue to spend their public assistance on the crap they sell. Even the convenience stores and fast food chains have their own lobbyists to make sure they can continue to rake in the SNAP funds, despite their generally higher prices and less nutritious choices.

So, you're pissed at Mrs. Obama because she tried to improve child nutrition without trying to reform a program you say can't be changed because of politics?

No. Man, reading comprehenshun is low around here. The fact that the First Lady won't mention SNAP, while otherwise crusading for better nutrition, demonstrates the liberals' unwillingness to piss off their constituents.

I mean you yourself said no one would touch SNAP reform so I don't think this is really an exclusively liberal problem.

OT: was your spelling of comprehension a joke? If so, nice.
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Re: How Many People Around You Receive Food Stamps?
« Reply #166 on: May 16, 2013, 02:06:02 PM »
God damn moooochelle is ruining the nation!  :curse:
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« Reply #167 on: May 16, 2013, 02:37:19 PM »
There are a lot of very strong interests aligned against reform. The Democrats oppose it because they don't want to piss off constituents, and some of them honestly believe it is somehow demeaning to regulate how public assistance is spent. Some Republicans join them because they are in the pocket of Big Junk Food, whatever you want to call it, the multi-million dollar lobbying effort to ensure that people can continue to spend their public assistance on the crap they sell. Even the convenience stores and fast food chains have their own lobbyists to make sure they can continue to rake in the SNAP funds, despite their generally higher prices and less nutritious choices.

So, you're pissed at Mrs. Obama because she tried to improve child nutrition without trying to reform a program you say can't be changed because of politics?

No. Man, reading comprehenshun is low around here. The fact that the First Lady won't mention SNAP, while otherwise crusading for better nutrition, demonstrates the liberals' unwillingness to piss off their constituents.

I mean you yourself said no one would touch SNAP reform so I don't think this is really an exclusively liberal problem.

OT: was your spelling of comprehension a joke? If so, nice.

I didn't say "no one." Various (red) states are attempting to reform SNAP - they just face significant headwinds. I cannot deny that certain corrupt and/or pork barrel Republicans are contributing to the mess, but it certainly doesn't help that virtually all Democrats, due to ideology and/or money would be opposed to SNAP reforms.
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« Reply #168 on: May 16, 2013, 04:55:06 PM »
red states are attempting to reform it because they hate minorities.

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« Reply #169 on: May 16, 2013, 05:07:49 PM »
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« Reply #170 on: May 16, 2013, 05:53:22 PM »
red states are attempting to reform it because they hate minorities.

I'm going to hazard a guess here and say there are a whole lot more white people on EBT than minorities.

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« Reply #171 on: May 16, 2013, 07:26:05 PM »
Listening to Michelle Obama's fat ass preach about nutrition is akin to listening to Charlie Weis's fat ass preach about conditioning.

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« Reply #172 on: May 16, 2013, 07:33:12 PM »
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« Reply #173 on: May 16, 2013, 08:08:48 PM »
Michelle Obama has a fat ass?

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« Reply #174 on: May 16, 2013, 10:18:52 PM »
red states are attempting to reform it because they hate minorities.

You know, for a guy who is always bitching about the "bigotry" of others, you sure spew a lot of ignorant hate. It's kinda sad.
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