one year delayed, eh cap'n?

[captaincrap]

Is the happiness with an NIT and Jake vs. Angel discussion like, way more boring than our AD putting out rumors that Angel is transferring because Angel (or people close to Angel) will get paid?

Not sure if you are saying I am the AD, but I never said anything about anyone getting paid.

[michigancat]

Is the happiness with an NIT and Jake vs. Angel discussion like, way more boring than our AD putting out rumors that Angel is transferring because Angel (or people close to Angel) will get paid?

Not sure if you are saying I am the AD, but I never said anything about anyone getting paid.

it was strongly implied

[CHONGS]

Is the happiness with an NIT and Jake vs. Angel discussion like, way more boring than our AD putting out rumors that Angel is transferring because Angel (or people close to Angel) will get paid?

Not sure if you are saying I am the AD, but I never said anything about anyone getting paid.

it was strongly implied

very strongly

[Dugout DickStone]

Is the happiness with an NIT and Jake vs. Angel discussion like, way more boring than our AD putting out rumors that Angel is transferring because Angel (or people close to Angel) will get paid?

Not sure if you are saying I am the AD, but I never said anything about anyone getting paid.

Playing word games with people are just as smart if not smarter than you seems like a losing proposition.

[captaincrap]

Is the happiness with an NIT and Jake vs. Angel discussion like, way more boring than our AD putting out rumors that Angel is transferring because Angel (or people close to Angel) will get paid?

Not sure if you are saying I am the AD, but I never said anything about anyone getting paid.

Playing word games with people are just as smart if not smarter than you seems like a losing proposition.

No word games my friend 

[CNS]

Word game issues

[CHONGS]

word game toughness

#hardcorescrabble

[Dugout DickStone]

Is the happiness with an NIT and Jake vs. Angel discussion like, way more boring than our AD putting out rumors that Angel is transferring because Angel (or people close to Angel) will get paid?

Not sure if you are saying I am the AD, but I never said anything about anyone getting paid.

Playing word games with people are just as smart if not smarter than you seems like a losing proposition.

No word games my friend 

Are we going to dime out Miami for tampering?

[sys]

when i read through yesterday's discussion with ccrap, i assumed his initial reference to financial toughness was a hint to expect art to go pro rather than end up at another school.  i was surprised everyone who responded to him immediately jumped on it as a reference to weird clumsy cheating instead.

[Dugout DickStone]

Currie should confiscate Angel's cellphone and search for Miami text messages

[captaincrap]

when i read through yesterday's discussion with ccrap, i assumed his initial reference to financial toughness was a hint to expect art to go pro rather than end up at another school.  i was surprised everyone who responded to him immediately jumped on it as a reference to weird clumsy cheating instead.

WORD GAMES

[michigancat]

when i read through yesterday's discussion with ccrap, i assumed his initial reference to financial toughness was a hint to expect art to go pro rather than end up at another school.  i was surprised everyone who responded to him immediately jumped on it as a reference to weird clumsy cheating instead.

it was announced Angel was transferring, not going pro. cc also said Angel wouldn't get paid, but people close to him would benefit financially. So those facts probably had a lot to do with my reaction.

[captaincrap]

when i read through yesterday's discussion with ccrap, i assumed his initial reference to financial toughness was a hint to expect art to go pro rather than end up at another school.  i was surprised everyone who responded to him immediately jumped on it as a reference to weird clumsy cheating instead.

it was announced Angel was transferring, not going pro. cc also said Angel wouldn't get paid, but people close to him would benefit financially. So those facts probably had a lot to do with my reaction.

You're adding a word to what I said:

Angel wants to be closer to his family, always has. Been an issue with him since he enrolled. There are some things that K-State will never be able to offer that other places can in terms of location. Whatever you want K-State to do for Angel, it won't change that fact. But other people will benefit from having Angel closer to home.

[sys]

it was announced Angel was transferring, not going pro. cc also said Angel wouldn't get paid, but people close to him would benefit financially. So those facts probably had a lot to do with my reaction.

yeah, he was vague and a little backpedally; i'm by no means sure my initial supposition was correct.  but since he's repeatedly and forcefully (for him) denied trying to hint at cheating, it seems like a more productive avenue for continued questioning, if people still wish to engage him.

[steve dave]

it was announced Angel was transferring, not going pro. cc also said Angel wouldn't get paid, but people close to him would benefit financially. So those facts probably had a lot to do with my reaction.

yeah, he was vague and a little backpedally; i'm by no means sure my initial supposition was correct.  but since he's repeatedly and forcefully (for him) denied trying to hint at cheating, it seems like a more productive avenue for continued questioning, if people still wish to engage him.

I also assumed he meant trying his hand at professional basketball. I now don't think that's what he meant though.

[captaincrap]

it was announced Angel was transferring, not going pro. cc also said Angel wouldn't get paid, but people close to him would benefit financially. So those facts probably had a lot to do with my reaction.

yeah, he was vague and a little backpedally; i'm by no means sure my initial supposition was correct.  but since he's repeatedly and forcefully (for him) denied trying to hint at cheating, it seems like a more productive avenue for continued questioning, if people still wish to engage him.

Trying to give context for his departure. Obviously can't get into specifics, so toeing the line on info will mean it will sometimes be vague or open to interpretation. Just want to make sure it's not being taken as an accusation of paying players, never meant to imply that.

[Cire]

it was announced Angel was transferring, not going pro. cc also said Angel wouldn't get paid, but people close to him would benefit financially. So those facts probably had a lot to do with my reaction.

yeah, he was vague and a little backpedally; i'm by no means sure my initial supposition was correct.  but since he's repeatedly and forcefully (for him) denied trying to hint at cheating, it seems like a more productive avenue for continued questioning, if people still wish to engage him.

Trying to give context for his departure. Obviously can't get into specifics, so toeing the line on info will mean it will sometimes be vague or open to interpretation. Just want to make sure it's not being taken as an accusation of paying players, never meant to imply that.

You didn't do a very good job of not implying that but i will take your word for it

[CHONGS]

I think its the implication that his family (or people close him) were/are getting paid. 

[CNS]

I think its the implication that his family (or people close him) were/are getting paid.

This is how I took it.  That the change won't financially benefit Angel directly, but others would. 

I also took it as not simply being the cost diff of plane tickets.

[michigancat]

it was announced Angel was transferring, not going pro. cc also said Angel wouldn't get paid, but people close to him would benefit financially. So those facts probably had a lot to do with my reaction.

yeah, he was vague and a little backpedally; i'm by no means sure my initial supposition was correct.  but since he's repeatedly and forcefully (for him) denied trying to hint at cheating, it seems like a more productive avenue for continued questioning, if people still wish to engage him.

Trying to give context for his departure. Obviously can't get into specifics, so toeing the line on info will mean it will sometimes be vague or open to interpretation. Just want to make sure it's not being taken as an accusation of paying players, never meant to imply that.

Well, pretty much everyone assumed he was wanting to go home, and really, were pretty satisfied with that explanation (but still blame oscar somewhat, which isn't entirely unreasonable.)

Coming in and hinting at a lack of "financial toughness" at worst sounds like an accusation of cheating and at best implies Angel is leaving because his family is poor but will benefit financially because of the move. Do you think your addition is a better explanation than just "wanting to be closer to home"?

Who does that additional context benefit? Certainly not Angel.

[Dugout DickStone]

"I can't tell you why but you are all wrong and stupid and overreacting"

[pissclams]

"I can't tell you why but you are all wrong and stupid and overreacting"

that's echoed a lot here, by a lot of people

[sonofdaxjones]

Still trying to figure out what oscar Weber could have done to alter the situation.

-Give Angel the most minutes this last year?

-Told Angel to take more shots?

-Smiled when Angel had one of his regular "WTF" plays instead of just frown a little? 

-Chew Angel out relentlessly, following him all the way to his seat, then go back to his seat and continue to berate Angel while pretending to talk to an assistant? 

What exactly??

Golly ,Sexy Shane tweeted last night that this is the happiest he's been in years playing the game of basketball, and it showed this last season.  Finally out of the glaring eye of Frank Martin who hounded him relentlessly for every single little mistake. 

Confounding, I tell ya . . . confounding.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

Is this like when Wilt left KU early because he felt he let the school down in the NCAA tournament?

 

[catzacker]

I think the confusion is this:  if i is just "closer to home" then fine.  But if it is transfer (not pro) to be closer to home And financial reasons it seems an odd pairing considering crossing an ocean is involved.  I mean if he goes pro, then whatever, but if he transfers to miami and his mom stays in puerto rico and he visits her (or her him) with the same frequency as now, then angel just wanted to not be at ksu.  I mean I guess a connecing flight from dallas instead of a direct from miami could be the culprit.  Some of reasons just seem inconsistent with the reality of their result.