Unions

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Good? Bad? Talk to me people

My idiot co-worker says they're the greatest thing ever and every non-union contractor that does work in Manhattan are pieces of crap (also some racial slurs that I won't post)

[CNS]

I think they are both in some industries.

Construction wise, they are good because you get a ready pool of labor that all have a good level of training.  That said, they are fucks sometimes too as they drive the cost of work up like crazy both on union jobs as well as on public money jobs because the Prevailing Wage rates very closely shadow union rates.

Too difficult of a question to answer without a whole lot of DNR length posts.

[Emo EMAW]

Depends on your POV I guess EllRobersonisInnocent.

[ben ji]

I'm pretty sure we have have this thread before but my general thought is anti union because I believe that I am more valuable to my employer than the majority of the employees.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

I think they are both in some industries.

Construction wise, they are good because you get a ready pool of labor that all have a good level of training.  That said, they are fucks sometimes too as they drive the cost of work up like crazy both on union jobs as well as on public money jobs because the Prevailing Wage rates very closely shadow union rates.
Too difficult of a question to answer without a whole lot of DNR length posts.

She kept rambling about prevailing wages, her husband is a union worker in Junction.

I have a low union iq but why shouldn't a company be able to hire whoever they want at whatever bid they choose? She thinks union workers should do every construction job

[CNS]

I think they are both in some industries.

Construction wise, they are good because you get a ready pool of labor that all have a good level of training.  That said, they are fucks sometimes too as they drive the cost of work up like crazy both on union jobs as well as on public money jobs because the Prevailing Wage rates very closely shadow union rates.
Too difficult of a question to answer without a whole lot of DNR length posts.

She kept rambling about prevailing wages, her husband is a union worker in Junction.

I have a low union iq but why shouldn't a company be able to hire whoever they want at whatever bid they choose? She thinks union workers should do every construction job

In many states, if something is funded by public money, they open the bidding up to both union and non union companies but use prevailing wage requirements to level the playing field.  Otherwise, no union would win any public money job ever.  For example.  Most non union laborers get somewhere in the low $teens/hr while many prevailing wage rate classifications pay laborers in the $thirties/hour.  The state requires the latter of non-union shops so that the union companies that pay laborers a similar wage can compete for the job.

I don't agree with the practice, as all it does is ensure you and I pay more for what we get at the government/municipality level, but thems the rules.

[steve dave]

how about yards? complete rough ridin' bullshit or pretty boss?

[steve dave]

my neighbor was going on and on about how being in a club was awesome but I don't know. Worth it or a complete waste of time?

[CNS]

She hates non-union ppl because her bf is a union guy.  I didn't read that part of your post until now. 

It's just something union guys do.  they call non-union ppl "rats" and spend a bunch of time hating on them.  They basically treat "rats" like #BID treats oscar, only they believe that the rats are also taking food off their table.

Your co-worker is probs a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) without a brain of her own and her bf(also probs a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that believes whatevs the union tells him to believe) probs rails about non-union guys at home all the time.

[Institutional Control]

my neighbor was going on and on about how being in a club was awesome but I don't know. Worth it or a complete waste of time?

Like the Lions Club?

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

I think they are both in some industries.

Construction wise, they are good because you get a ready pool of labor that all have a good level of training.  That said, they are fucks sometimes too as they drive the cost of work up like crazy both on union jobs as well as on public money jobs because the Prevailing Wage rates very closely shadow union rates.
Too difficult of a question to answer without a whole lot of DNR length posts.

She kept rambling about prevailing wages, her husband is a union worker in Junction.

I have a low union iq but why shouldn't a company be able to hire whoever they want at whatever bid they choose? She thinks union workers should do every construction job

In many states, if something is funded by public money, they open the bidding up to both union and non union companies but use prevailing wage requirements to level the playing field.  Otherwise, no union would win any public money job ever.  For example.  Most non union laborers get somewhere in the low $teens/hr while many prevailing wage rate classifications pay laborers in the $thirties/hour.  The state requires the latter of non-union shops so that the union companies that pay laborers a similar wage can compete for the job.

I don't agree with the practice, as all it does is ensure you and I pay more for what we get at the government/municipality level, but thems the rules.

Thanks for explaining CNS 

[CNS]

how about yards? complete rough ridin' bullshit or pretty boss?

Boss as a hobby.  If not a hobby, pud, but never complete rough ridin' bullshit unless poorly maintained.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

how about yards? complete rough ridin' bullshit or pretty boss?

Fence or no fence is what really should be discussed

[AbeFroman]

They are pretty important for jobs that have a high risk of injury/death.

[star seed 7]

better trained, but whiney as eff.

[CNS]

better trained, but whiney as eff.

So are about half of the construction workers in the world, union or no.

[Cartierfor3]

Baseball Players Union is annoying.

[star seed 7]

better trained, but whiney as eff.

So are about half of the construction workers in the world, union or no.

relative to non-union, they are whiney as eff.

[Super PurpleCat]

What's a union?

[KCFDcat]

in a union because I have to be. it's not that great. have never been to any special meetings or anything. also costs a lot.

[Cire]

If you love Unions and are butthurt about mom unioners ks is a tough place to live i guess

[Pete]

I thought this was going to be SQL thread. 

[HerrSonntag]

When i was in college, i had a roomate who's dad was a union lawyer and landed him a summertime job pushing a broom for a union shop.  I was working in the same part of town, just landed my first internship at an engineering firm that i worked my ass off to get... he made $1/hr more than me.  Never been a big union fan.

[FuzzyWuzzy]

I thought this was going to be a set theory thread.

[Emo EMAW]

Thought this was going to be a gay marriage thread.