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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2013, 04:16:23 PM »
There is lots of evidence to support theism, and lots of evidence to support atheism. Because of this, people will always believe what they want to believe. The only dumb belief is to believe either side is dumb.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2013, 04:53:48 PM »
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 31, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
The only dumb belief is to believe either side is dumb.

no, sorry ksu_fansie.  there is not evidence to support both sides of every argument.  in fact, in most arguments one side is fairly clearly better supported than the other, and it is fair to consider people that choose to believe the less well supported side stupid,
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2013, 05:04:26 PM »
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2013, 04:53:48 PM
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 31, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
The only dumb belief is to believe either side is dumb.

no, sorry ksu_fansie.  there is not evidence to support both sides of every argument.  in fact, in most arguments one side is fairly clearly better supported than the other, and it is fair to consider people that choose to believe the less well supported side stupid,

how do you choose which side is fairly clearly better supported in this instance?
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2013, 05:11:53 PM »
Quote from: seven on March 31, 2013, 05:04:26 PM
how do you choose which side is fairly clearly better supported in this instance?

examine the evidence, the same as any other issue.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2013, 05:15:15 PM »
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2013, 05:11:53 PM
Quote from: seven on March 31, 2013, 05:04:26 PM
how do you choose which side is fairly clearly better supported in this instance?

examine the evidence, the same as any other issue.

Sure, but everyone wants to believe one way or another. Very few people can examine the evidence for/against the existence of God without bias.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2013, 05:17:45 PM »
Sure, I think God probably did create everything.  But God is gone.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2013, 05:18:05 PM »
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 31, 2013, 05:15:15 PM
Very few people can examine the evidence for/against the existence of God without bias.

right, most people are dumb.  that was my point.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2013, 05:20:52 PM »
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2013, 05:11:53 PM
Quote from: seven on March 31, 2013, 05:04:26 PM
how do you choose which side is fairly clearly better supported in this instance?

examine the evidence, the same as any other issue.

good possibility that i'm one of the dumb people, but in this instance i see no evidence to support either side.  what now?
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2013, 05:21:44 PM »
Quote from: sys on March 31, 2013, 05:18:05 PM
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 31, 2013, 05:15:15 PM
Very few people can examine the evidence for/against the existence of God without bias.

right, most people are dumb.  that was my point.

Oh I get it. Yeah, I can't argue that.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2013, 05:35:47 PM »
Quote from: seven on March 31, 2013, 05:20:52 PM
good possibility that i'm one of the dumb people, but in this instance i see no evidence to support either side.  what now?

you probably haven't looked.  that doesn't make you dumb, just uninterested.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2013, 07:34:45 PM »
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 31, 2013, 05:17:45 PM
Sure, I think God probably did create everything.  But God is gone.

Is he coming back?
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2013, 07:42:26 PM »
Quote from: wetwillie on March 31, 2013, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 31, 2013, 05:17:45 PM
Sure, I think God probably did create everything.  But God is gone.

Is he coming back?

How should I know?
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2013, 07:47:25 PM »
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 31, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
people will always believe what they want to believe.

You've done this before, I think. It's a very lazy/blissfully unaware stance.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2013, 07:47:41 PM »
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 31, 2013, 07:42:26 PM
Quote from: wetwillie on March 31, 2013, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 31, 2013, 05:17:45 PM
Sure, I think God probably did create everything.  But God is gone.

Is he coming back?

How should I know?

I thought you knew he was gone cause he left a note.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2013, 07:52:59 PM »
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2013, 07:47:25 PM
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 31, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
people will always believe what they want to believe.

You've done this before, I think. It's a very lazy/blissfully unaware stance.

Also occasionally untrue.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2013, 07:59:46 PM »
Quote from: 42 on March 31, 2013, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2013, 07:47:25 PM
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 31, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
people will always believe what they want to believe.

You've done this before, I think. It's a very lazy/blissfully unaware stance.

Also occasionally untrue.

Yeah, I am basically always swayed by things I read. My opinions on almost everything are constantly evolving.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2013, 08:00:33 PM »
I was mainly inferring becoming a nonbeliever growing up in the bible belt but that works too rustymichigansanfranciscocat.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2013, 08:24:12 PM »
Quote from: Willesgirl on March 31, 2013, 12:43:59 PM
Does God exist?

Yes.

How are you on the whole sexist God thing?

I mean you're  here to serve us and he really didn't want you preaching the word.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2013, 08:37:26 PM »
Certainly not.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2013, 08:49:05 PM »
Define "God" -- that should give you an answer.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2013, 09:27:05 PM »
yes
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2013, 09:43:42 PM »
Yes.
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Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2013, 02:34:16 AM »
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2013, 07:47:25 PM
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 31, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
people will always believe what they want to believe.

You've done this before, I think. It's a very lazy/blissfully unaware stance.

Find me an atheist who reads books like "Case For Christ" or "Reason For God" or a theist who reads "The God Delusion" or "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything" and I'll concede your point. Protip: it doesn't happen. They only read books that confirm what they believe. There are very few examples in which people read both sides to see which one makes the most sense.
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Does God Exist?
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2013, 07:55:19 AM »
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 31, 2013, 05:17:45 PM
Sure, I think God probably did create everything.  But God is gone.

I swear to god I almost posted a fake KK post saying more or less exactly this.
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Re: Re: Does God Exist?
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2013, 07:58:55 AM »
Quote from: Jakesie60 on April 01, 2013, 02:34:16 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 31, 2013, 07:47:25 PM
Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 31, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
people will always believe what they want to believe.

You've done this before, I think. It's a very lazy/blissfully unaware stance.

Find me an atheist who reads books like "Case For Christ" or "Reason For God" or a theist who reads "The God Delusion" or "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything" and I'll concede your point. Protip: it doesn't happen. They only read books that confirm what they believe. There are very few examples in which people read both sides to see which one makes the most sense.

I will look for these people and get back to you. I bet there's lots of people who have read both types. Heck, I'd start with Pete.
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