What is the standard that will need to be met for "Gay" marriage?

['taterblast]

 

[michigancat]

yeah, the new pope indeed sounds like a major stud

[Rams]

yeah, the new pope indeed sounds like a major stud

it's clear that he's totally gonna use his infallibility to troll the traditionalists.  #teampopefrancis

[CNS]

"I am not a right winger" - New pope

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[Cire]

god wills it.

[OK_Cat]

That's a pretty big deal.   

[star seed 7]

"I am not a right winger" - New pope

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the pope continues to mush republican faces.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/pope-francis-denounces-trickle-down-economic-theories-in-critique-of-inequality/2013/11/26/e17ffe4e-56b6-11e3-8304-caf30787c0a9_story.html

“Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world,” Francis wrote in the papal statement. “This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naive trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system.”

“Meanwhile,” he added, “the excluded are still waiting.”

(mods, maybe move to a new "the new pope is a rough ridin' stud" masterthread?)

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

"Meanwhile," America's historic prosperity would disagree. Our "poor" live better here than anywhere else on earth, and not just because of our bloated welfare programs. Goods and services are remarkably cheap and abundant due to capitalism

It's funny though, a lot of predominantly Catholic nations, such as Argentina, are much more heavily socialist. How's that working out for their poor?

Truth is, the Catholic Church has a long history of conflating government redristribution with charity. That doesn't mean it's right, any more than many other of the church's actions are right. The church, and the Pope, are not infallible. (Luckily, I'm not Catholic so I can say this).

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

"I am not a right winger" - New pope

Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk 2

the pope continues to mush republican faces.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/pope-francis-denounces-trickle-down-economic-theories-in-critique-of-inequality/2013/11/26/e17ffe4e-56b6-11e3-8304-caf30787c0a9_story.html

“Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world,” Francis wrote in the papal statement. “This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naive trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system.”

“Meanwhile,” he added, “the excluded are still waiting.”

(mods, maybe move to a new "the new pope is a rough ridin' stud" masterthread?)

You and the pope need to understand that there is no "free market" and there never will be again.

[sys]

Our "poor" live better here than anywhere else on earth.

it's hilarious that you believe this (just to be clear, i'm lolling @ your dataless patriotic provincialism, not your belief in the efficiency of capitalism).

[SkinnyBenny]

Our "poor" live better here than anywhere else on earth.

it's hilarious that you believe this (just to be clear, i'm lolling @ your dataless patriotic provincialism, not your belief in the efficiency of capitalism).

Ya. Seems like the type of person who would insist that THIS IS THE MOST FREE NATION ON EARTH!!!!!!!1!!111!!! (while ignoring all the other free nations.)

[p1k3]

Our "poor" live better here than anywhere else on earth.

it's hilarious that you believe this (just to be clear, i'm lolling @ your dataless patriotic provincialism, not your belief in the efficiency of capitalism).

Ya. Seems like the type of person who would insist that THIS IS THE MOST FREE NATION ON EARTH!!!!!!!1!!111!!! (while ignoring all the other free nations.)

We're absolutely not the most free nation on Earth. Good grief what are you Libtards talking about?

[star seed 7]

p1k3, i think that was the point, buddy.   

[sys]

We're absolutely not the most free nation on Earth. Good grief what are you Libtards talking about?

we're agreeing with you, pike.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

I think p1k3 isn't 100% sure what is going on in this thread.

[p1k3]

I think p1k3 isn't 100% sure what is going on in this thread.

I've been drinking. 11am game and all.

[CHONGS]

I think p1k3 isn't 100% sure what is going on in this thread.

I've been drinking. 11am game and all.

Don't worry, knee jerks are involuntary reactions.  Not your fault.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Our "poor" live better here than anywhere else on earth.

it's hilarious that you believe this (just to be clear, i'm lolling @ your dataless patriotic provincialism, not your belief in the efficiency of capitalism).

You're right, looks like Sweden, Canada, and Australia have us slightly beat, at least when you factor such intangibles as "civic engagement" and "community." http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/05/daily-chart-17?Fsrc=scn%2Fgp%2Fwl%2Fdc%2Fbetterlifeindex

But let's by all means quibble over a superlative that's generally true and ignore the larger point.

[sys]

Our "poor" live better here than anywhere else on earth.

it's hilarious that you believe this (just to be clear, i'm lolling @ your dataless patriotic provincialism, not your belief in the efficiency of capitalism).

You're right, looks like Sweden, Canada, and Australia have us slightly beat, at least when you factor such intangibles as "civic engagement" and "community." http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/05/daily-chart-17?Fsrc=scn%2Fgp%2Fwl%2Fdc%2Fbetterlifeindex

But let's by all means quibble over a superlative that's generally true and ignore the larger point.

you mean one that's demonstrably false.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Our "poor" live better here than anywhere else on earth.

it's hilarious that you believe this (just to be clear, i'm lolling @ your dataless patriotic provincialism, not your belief in the efficiency of capitalism).

You're right, looks like Sweden, Canada, and Australia have us slightly beat, at least when you factor such intangibles as "civic engagement" and "community." http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/05/daily-chart-17?Fsrc=scn%2Fgp%2Fwl%2Fdc%2Fbetterlifeindex

But let's by all means quibble over a superlative that's generally true and ignore the larger point.

you mean one that's demonstrably false.

Yes, "demonstrably"! But by all means keep quibbling over a subjective determination, when the larger point remains.

[Cire]

shouldn't america's poor live quite a bit better than Uganda's? 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

shouldn't america's poor live quite a bit better than Uganda's?

Not when you factor in things like civic engagement and community, duh. Demonstrably.

[sys]

you picked the link, dumbass.  if you don't like the criteria they used to "demonstrate" people's standards of living, pick a different one you like better.  link it up.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

you picked the link, dumbass.  if you don't like the criteria they used to "demonstrate" people's standards of living, pick a different one you like better.  link it up.

Actually, that was the "best" I could find, and that's the point. It is a somewhat subjective standard, but there can be no dispute that the "poor" are better off in America than pretty much anywhere else on earth. Stop quibbling over such a trivial and non-quantifiable distinction between "best" and "one of the best."

[sys]

there can be no dispute that the "poor" are better off in America than pretty much anywhere else on earth.

i'm disputing it.  post your evidence.