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Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« on: March 22, 2013, 04:23:57 PM »
It'll roll over to next season.


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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 04:29:44 PM »
It'll roll over to next season.

Tried calling it with 2.1 left, ref shook his head no

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2013, 04:30:45 PM »
rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). #firebruce

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2013, 04:36:16 PM »
Know the worst part?  This is the year he was supposed to at least be good, while he still has all of Frank's players.

#FYBW

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Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2013, 04:59:35 PM »
It'll roll over to next season.

Tried calling it with 2.1 left, ref shook his head no
should get a great shot with 2.1 left. Great decision


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Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2013, 05:14:58 PM »
Definitely don't use it when you see that JHR has the ball at the top of the key with 17-ish seconds left. And then don't use it when a missed free throw plops into our hands with 8 seconds left.
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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2013, 05:41:55 PM »
Definitely don't use it when you see that JHR has the ball at the top of the key with 17-ish seconds left. And then don't use it when a missed free throw plops into our hands with 8 seconds left.

We weren't going to get a better shot after a timeout than the shot JO ended up with. I'm pissed about a lot of things, but saving that timeout is not one of them. I wish he would have saved the timeout he used a couple of possessions earlier when we only had 7 on the shot clock, too.

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Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2013, 06:05:11 PM »
LOL at thinking there's any worse shot than the one that JHR took. Oh wait, I guess the one Angel took after oscar again didn't call a timeout was worse.
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2013, 06:07:18 PM »
LOL at thinking there's any worse shot than the one that JHR took. Oh wait, I guess the one Angel took after oscar again didn't call a timeout was worse.

There really isn't a better shot than having the guy who has scored most of your points getting a shot 4 feet from the basket.

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2013, 06:10:25 PM »
Contractual incentives. 

Probs worth $2500 or something.

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2013, 06:27:08 PM »
I think he's a natural born loser. Look at his expression after the buzzer went off, he didn't even have any idea that the game just ended

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2013, 06:31:37 PM »
LOL at thinking there's any worse shot than the one that JHR took. Oh wait, I guess the one Angel took after oscar again didn't call a timeout was worse.

There really isn't a better shot than having the guy who has scored most of your points getting a shot 4 feet from the basket.


JHR being a playmaker and making a sweet pressure turnaround LOL
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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2013, 08:39:18 PM »
Spradling, who shouldn't even have been in the rough ridin' game, is aimlessly dribbling the ball 35 feet from the basket as the possession clock runs down to from 15 seconds, and the dumbass doesn't call a timeout until it runs down to 7 seconds. Great coaching there.

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2013, 08:42:00 PM »
LOL at thinking there's any worse shot than the one that JHR took. Oh wait, I guess the one Angel took after oscar again didn't call a timeout was worse.

There really isn't a better shot than having the guy who has scored most of your points getting a shot 4 feet from the basket.

Accept that was four feet outside of his range the entire game.

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2013, 08:46:12 PM »
Spradling, who shouldn't even have been in the rough ridin' game, is aimlessly dribbling the ball 35 feet from the basket as the possession clock runs down to from 15 seconds, and the dumbass doesn't call a timeout until it runs down to 7 seconds. Great coaching there.

I think oscar might have done that by design because he was milking the clock with that 1 point lead.

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2013, 01:33:28 AM »
After an entire season of Bruceketball, have none of you dipshits figured out that timeouts are only to be used for stopping runs and pulling our hot players.  Like after Shane or Rod hits a big three and the crowd is rocking, that momentum really needs to be killed and that guy needs a breather.

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2013, 08:14:01 AM »
Know the worst part?  This is the year he was supposed to at least be good, while he still has all of Frank's players.

#FYBW

Frank's players were worst than any players he ever had at Illinois. Still better than Woolly and Assbury players though.
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Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2013, 08:14:52 AM »
Yep. Did that with JHR with 3 minutes left too.
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Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2013, 08:15:54 AM »
Know the worst part?  This is the year he was supposed to at least be good, while he still has all of Frank's players.

#FYBW

Frank's players were worst than any players he ever had at Illinois. Still better than Woolly and Assbury players though.

Between the worst and the Assbury thing, this post really belongs in the GPC quote thread.
"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2013, 08:29:58 AM »
Know the worst part?  This is the year he was supposed to at least be good, while he still has all of Frank's players.

#FYBW

Frank's players were worst than any players he ever had at Illinois. Still better than Woolly and Assbury players though.

Between the worst and the Assbury thing, this post really belongs in the GPC quote thread.

just hating cuz you know it's true.  :comeatme:
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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2013, 09:06:21 AM »
This is really a terrible point because there are two competing views on whether a TO should be called at the end of the game like that.  Neither is superior.  oscar let them play and then tried to call a TO when they weren't getting a shot on their own.  The refs just didn't give it to him.  So, you really can't fault him for not calling a TO because he tried, but you also can't fault him for calling a TO instead of letting them play because he did that, too.

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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2013, 09:27:36 AM »
This is really a terrible point because there are two competing views on whether a TO should be called at the end of the game like that.  Neither is superior.  oscar let them play and then tried to call a TO when they weren't getting a shot on their own.  The refs just didn't give it to him.  So, you really can't fault him for not calling a TO because he tried, but you also can't fault him for calling a TO instead of letting them play because he did that, too.

Exactly oscar's plan

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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2013, 10:32:52 AM »
This is really a terrible point because there are two competing views on whether a TO should be called at the end of the game like that.  Neither is superior.  oscar let them play and then tried to call a TO when they weren't getting a shot on their own.  The refs just didn't give it to him.  So, you really can't fault him for not calling a TO because he tried, but you also can't fault him for calling a TO instead of letting them play because he did that, too.

I agree

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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2013, 10:49:53 AM »
He probably shouldn't have waited until there were two seconds left in the season to decide to begin making the timeout motion. Sure there's speculation, and a lot of talking heads even said stuff like, "You know, just letting them play sometimes is what a coach thinks is best." And to that I would ask....how'd it work out? What was the end result? Would we have been assured a victory if oscar had used his last timeout at either of the two points that he actually should have? Not necessarily, but the result certainly couldn't be any worse than what actually did happen, which was Angel trying to take a desperate shot from BEHIND THE BACKBOARD?!?!?!?
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Re: Sure oscar, Save That Last Timeout.
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2013, 12:44:38 PM »
This is really a terrible point because there are two competing views on whether a TO should be called at the end of the game like that.  Neither is superior.  oscar let them play and then tried to call a TO when they weren't getting a shot on their own.  The refs just didn't give it to him.  So, you really can't fault him for not calling a TO because he tried, but you also can't fault him for calling a TO instead of letting them play because he did that, too.

I agree

Yeah, of all the oscar hating talking points, the non-use of TOs was really low on my list. But this is a popular one, for oscar haters/supporters alike.

I'm not defending oscar because ultimately losses fall on the coach. 

Its clear he either didn't have them ready to play OR the gameplan to defend La Salle was faulty.

His use of JO/Gip was odd and it was clear Gip couldn't guard La Salle's big. (granted, they couldn't guard him either and JO missed his fair share of bunnies in the first half).

Taking Angel out after foul 4 was unnecessary that late in the game. You leave in your best playmaking guard until he fouls out at that point.

I'm also willing to concede that there were other contributing factors that oscar had little control over (best two play makers struggling and in general missing a lot of open shots (Tay and Will), FT shooting)