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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #600 on: March 24, 2013, 01:54:51 PM »
On the blown charge/block
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. A secondary defender is considered to be in the restricted area when any part of either foot is in or above this area.

yikes

The best part about this is that when the announcers were gushing over how Craft was smart enough to keep his feet from touching the line, that's when I knew the rule was that anything over it was considered a block. Seriously, CBS announcers are that bad.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #601 on: March 24, 2013, 01:55:32 PM »
My heart was with floodaggie but having the West open up like that, with our Cats done for the season, would be a lot to stomach. 


Yeah, this is all I could think about. It would have haunted me the rest of my life.

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« Reply #602 on: March 24, 2013, 01:56:38 PM »
On the blown charge/block
Quote from: Section 56
. A secondary defender is considered to be in the restricted area when any part of either foot is in or above this area.

yikes

The best part about this is that when the announcers were gushing over how Craft was smart enough to keep his feet from touching the line, that's when I knew the rule was that anything over it was considered a block. Seriously, CBS announcers are that bad.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #603 on: March 24, 2013, 02:00:07 PM »
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A secondary defender as defined in Rule 4-61 cannot establish initial
legal guarding position in the restricted area for the purpose of drawing a player
control foul/charge when defending a player who is in control of the ball (i.e.,
dribbling or shooting) or who has released the ball for a pass or try. When illegal 92 Rule 10 / foulsandpenalties
contact occurs within this Restricted Area, such contact shall be called a blocking
foul, unless the contact is a flagrant foul.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #604 on: March 24, 2013, 02:03:51 PM »
On the blown charge/block
Quote from: Section 56
. A secondary defender is considered to be in the restricted area when any part of either foot is in or above this area.

yikes

The best part about this is that when the announcers were gushing over how Craft was smart enough to keep his feet from touching the line, that's when I knew the rule was that anything over it was considered a block. Seriously, CBS announcers are that bad.

Take it back. Charles and Clark are, in my opinion, the two best commentators in college basketball.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #605 on: March 24, 2013, 02:08:07 PM »
The line has only enhanced the ability for officials to call charges and increased the frequency. If a guy looks like he has remotely good defensive position and looks like he's close to outside the arc, its almost always a charge. But its no surprise, any time you specify a rule, its going to lead to more frequent calls (either way). The thing the arc has decreased is no calls. And in real time, it would be nearly impossible for an official to make the call on this play, its a guess either way.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #606 on: March 24, 2013, 02:10:38 PM »
The problem I have with this game is that the rule is black and white and forces the refs to make one, and only one, call.  Its also suppose to remove human error in this exact play. 
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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #607 on: March 24, 2013, 02:14:11 PM »
Not a bad call.

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« Reply #608 on: March 24, 2013, 02:14:54 PM »
Not a bad call.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #609 on: March 24, 2013, 02:18:47 PM »
Bad call, worse rule. That line should be treated like every other line on the court. Hovering foot should be considered off of the line.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #610 on: March 24, 2013, 02:19:13 PM »
Wasn't Craft late getting there too? Over/line touching the line is a super tough call in real time so I'm not that upset about it. I have a bigger problem with Craft not being in very good position.

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« Reply #611 on: March 24, 2013, 02:21:22 PM »
Bad call, worse rule. That line should be treated like every other line on the court. Hovering foot should be considered off of the line.
are you in favor of the principle of the rule?  Would you be in favor of the unlined rule and leave it up to the refs, or go to a bigger arc which would prevent more undercutting of players already in the air?
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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #612 on: March 24, 2013, 02:26:07 PM »
Wasn't Craft late getting there too? Over/line touching the line is a super tough call in real time so I'm not that upset about it. I have a bigger problem with Craft not being in very good position.

Yeah, he slid under.  It was an awful, awful, racist call.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #613 on: March 24, 2013, 02:27:09 PM »
Wasn't Craft late getting there too? Over/line touching the line is a super tough call in real time so I'm not that upset about it. I have a bigger problem with Craft not being in very good position.

Yeah, he slid under.  It was an awful, awful, racist call.

yes, everything about the call was bad.  Craft was half way to the ground when he established his so called position.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #614 on: March 24, 2013, 02:30:17 PM »
Wyatt for Temple is very enjoyable to watch.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #615 on: March 24, 2013, 02:34:33 PM »
Wasn't Craft late getting there too? Over/line touching the line is a super tough call in real time so I'm not that upset about it. I have a bigger problem with Craft not being in very good position.

Yeah, he slid under.  It was an awful, awful, racist call.

Yes it was an awful call that helped keep me at #1 in one bracket, sorry Clones :grin:

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« Reply #616 on: March 24, 2013, 02:36:31 PM »
Wasn't Craft late getting there too? Over/line touching the line is a super tough call in real time so I'm not that upset about it. I have a bigger problem with Craft not being in very good position.

I thought he was there, but Ialso thought Clyburn was fouled up top, by Smith I believe, before he hit Craft.

Bad call, worse rule. That line should be treated like every other line on the court. Hovering foot should be considered off of the line.
are you in favor of the principle of the rule?  Would you be in favor of the unlined rule and leave it up to the refs, or go to a bigger arc which would prevent more undercutting of players already in the air?

I thought I was clear about my problem with the rule is the foot or feet should be allowed to hover over the arc like you can every other line.

If we're bitching about or fixing rules, can we have the officials call verticality correctly? I don't think I have seen an offensive foul called when the defender jumps and that's very wrong.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #617 on: March 24, 2013, 02:39:46 PM »
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Bad call, worse rule. That line should be treated like every other line on the court. Hovering foot should be considered off of the line.
are you in favor of the principle of the rule?  Would you be in favor of the unlined rule and leave it up to the refs, or go to a bigger arc which would prevent more undercutting of players already in the air?

I thought I was clear about my problem with the rule is the foot or feet should be allowed to hover over the arc like you can every other line.

If we're bitching about or fixing rules, can we have the officials call verticality correctly? I don't think I have seen an offensive foul called when the defender jumps and that's very wrong.
nice and snippy, I like it.  by the way if you think hover footing it is okay, you clearly don't understand the rule.
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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #618 on: March 24, 2013, 02:41:10 PM »
Wasn't Craft late getting there too? Over/line touching the line is a super tough call in real time so I'm not that upset about it. I have a bigger problem with Craft not being in very good position.

Yeah, he slid under.  It was an awful, awful, racist call.

yes, everything about the call was bad.  Craft was half way to the ground when he established his so called position.

Was it a foul? Technically, no. Did it look like a foul? No. Was it a borderline call? Yes. The official made the right call. What's the big deal? People are making mountains out of molehills about this.

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« Reply #619 on: March 24, 2013, 02:42:55 PM »
Bad call, worse rule. That line should be treated like every other line on the court. Hovering foot should be considered off of the line.
are you in favor of the principle of the rule?  Would you be in favor of the unlined rule and leave it up to the refs, or go to a bigger arc which would prevent more undercutting of players already in the air?

I thought I was clear about my problem with the rule is the foot or feet should be allowed to hover over the arc like you can every other line.

If we're bitching about or fixing rules, can we have the officials call verticality correctly? I don't think I have seen an offensive foul called when the defender jumps and that's very wrong.
nice and snippy, I like it.  by the way if you think hover footing it is okay, you clearly don't understand the rule.
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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #620 on: March 24, 2013, 02:43:08 PM »
Wyatt for Temple is very enjoyable to watch.

he has 20 of Temple's 24 points.  :horrorsurprise:

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #621 on: March 24, 2013, 02:44:06 PM »
Wasn't Craft late getting there too? Over/line touching the line is a super tough call in real time so I'm not that upset about it. I have a bigger problem with Craft not being in very good position.

Yeah, he slid under.  It was an awful, awful, racist call.

yes, everything about the call was bad.  Craft was half way to the ground when he established his so called position.

Half way to the ground? Seriously? The guy was set up perfectly. The only mistake he made was being too close to the basket.

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Re: Other NCAA Tourny Games Thread
« Reply #622 on: March 24, 2013, 02:44:21 PM »
The amount of charges called is the worst thing about college bball. They should make it a defensive foul if someone steps in another players way just to draw a charge, maybe eject that player or just kick him off the team.

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« Reply #623 on: March 24, 2013, 02:45:00 PM »
Wyatt for Temple is very enjoyable to watch.

Guess his thumb is fine

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« Reply #624 on: March 24, 2013, 02:45:49 PM »
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Bad call, worse rule. That line should be treated like every other line on the court. Hovering foot should be considered off of the line.
are you in favor of the principle of the rule?  Would you be in favor of the unlined rule and leave it up to the refs, or go to a bigger arc which would prevent more undercutting of players already in the air?

I thought I was clear about my problem with the rule is the foot or feet should be allowed to hover over the arc like you can every other line.

If we're bitching about or fixing rules, can we have the officials call verticality correctly? I don't think I have seen an offensive foul called when the defender jumps and that's very wrong.
nice and snippy, I like it.  by the way if you think hover footing it is okay, you clearly don't understand the rule.

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