Without getting defensive

[catzacker]

Can we talk defense?  Why are these KSU cats kind of bad at it?  The theory floated out there is JO’s absence around the rim has caused it to be awful/bad/not up to par, but that didn’t correlate to the second half this last game.  And I think it’s a convenient excuse, but not an accurate one.

Subquestion:  I feel as though we look “tired” or “slow” on defense.  Could the answer be that because we spend 35 seconds sprinting around on offense that we take a break on defense?

I dunno.

[Cire]

JO IMO.  I could buy the tired from offense argument.

[chum1]

No stats?

[GoodForAnother]

maybe we're good at offense because we don't try at defense and we're not tired 

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

We were actually one of the better defensive teams throughout the B12 season. I will say that it has been lacking as of late, though.

_FAN, stat me, bro.

[catzacker]

No stats?

stats are kind of for losers, imo.

[kso_FAN]

No stats?

stats are kind of for losers, imo.

:(

[steve dave]

No stats?

stats are kind of for losers, imo.

inaccurate bullshit = for winners

[EMAWzified]

From below (as always from the good work of ksu_FAN. Texas second half:
Opp   pace 56  points/poss 0.88   offensive eff. 39.0%  FTrate  24.0%

Probably the best defensive we've played in three games. But yeah, Weber's not the defensive coach Frank was. Duh.

[Lefty]

It seems as if we have a very nasty defense that only appears to give up easy buckets (and we do). However, the game as a whole, we do a fanstastic job of disrupting a team's flow and scheme. Is this stupid to say?

I think we have fantastic help D and are very good at it. We force a lot of turnovers and bad possessions with how active we are. Sure we give up easy buckets during portions of a game, but that's because we gamble much more than a normal team.

[GoodForAnother]

frank's teams used to give up a lot of easy buckets too.  not a bball expert but it seems like pretty much every defensive strategy has a weakness that you have to accept.

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

frank's teams used to give up a lot of easy buckets too.  not a bball expert but it seems like pretty much every defensive strategy has a weakness that you have to accept.

I've seen us give up like, 5 back cut layups all year. Frank's teams gave that up per game.

[AbeFroman]

Post defense could use a little improvement, but backcourt defense is fantastic

[steve dave]

I think maybe our shooting and offense sucked in the past because all our guys were tired from using up all our energy rebounding.

[catzacker]

No stats?

stats are kind of for losers, imo.

:(

I think this is _fan's stats

   DEF EFF   OFF EFF:   
06/07   1.02   1.06    0.04
07/08   1.01   1.11    0.10
08/09   1.05   1.02    (0.03)
09/10   0.97   1.06    0.09
10/11   1.00   1.04    0.04
11/12   0.97   1.02    0.05
12/13   1.02   1.12    0.10

[steve dave]

'09 was such a loser year. I always forget that year happened.

[JKEYS]

We were actually one of the better defensive teams throughout the B12 season. I will say that it has been lacking as of late, though.

_FAN, stat me, bro.

That's because, as of late, we've had to play a much improved Texas team twice, Baylor, and Okie State - including 3 games away from the 'gon.  Road games + good offensive teams = crappier looking D.

[420seriouscat69]

I bet 'Zacker was a mess on his wedding day. He's never been able to enjoy nice things.

[kso_FAN]

10 and 12 were fantastic defenses.

As far as the biggest differences; opponents shoot better on 2s and we don't force as many TOs as Frank's teams in general, and especially those 2 great defenses.

But at the end of the day, we still win a lot because out offense is a lot more efficient. I'm not sure why much better offense doesn't get as much credit as worse defense gets critiqued. Its clear to me we can still win the way we are playing.

[steve dave]

I like how zacker posts

[steve dave]

10 and 12 were fantastic defenses.

As far as the biggest differences; opponents shoot better on 2s and we don't force as many TOs as Frank's teams in general, and especially those 2 great defenses.

But at the end of the day, we still win a lot because out offense is a lot more efficient. I'm not sure why much better offense doesn't get as much credit as worse defense gets critiqued. Its clear to me we can still win the way we are playing.

I think many more people gush over the O than complain about the D. maybe not here, but in general.

[MikeNelson]

No stats?

stats are kind of for losers, imo.

inaccurate bullshit = for winners

 

[puniraptor]

Maybe the players don't care about playing defense because they know they can easily drain 3's all day long

[Panjandrum]

10 and 12 were fantastic defenses.

As far as the biggest differences; opponents shoot better on 2s and we don't force as many TOs as Frank's teams in general, and especially those 2 great defenses.

But at the end of the day, we still win a lot because out offense is a lot more efficient. I'm not sure why much better offense doesn't get as much credit as worse defense gets critiqued. Its clear to me we can still win the way we are playing.

I think many more people gush over the O than complain about the D. maybe not here, but in general.

I think it's lead to more consistent play, but less peaks and valleys.  I think the general populous likes that more.

I could be wrong.

[Super PurpleCat]

Style points.