I don't get all of this "Get rid of the NCAA" stuff

[Pete]

Media types are piling onto the NCAA over this Miami stuff, and I don't understand why.  Miami is rough ridin' guilty as hell.  Who cares if the NCAA went a different route to get evidence?  It doesn't make the evidence untrue.

What the eff takes the place of the NCAA?  Are they advocating "nothing?" 

No rules, just the wild west?  Really?

[Katpappy]

Media types are piling onto the NCAA over this Miami stuff, and I don't understand why.  Miami is rough ridin' guilty as hell.  Who cares if the NCAA went a different route to get evidence?  It doesn't make the evidence untrue.

What the eff takes the place of the NCAA?  Are they advocating "nothing?" 

No rules, just the wild west?  Really?

NCAA is an organization formed by the University Presidents.  What in the eff would Universities gain by breaking away from their own organization?  All the rules are based on non-payed athletic students that make them millions...billions.  So why even bring up the idea of getting rid of the NCAA.  *IMO this is a very stupid talking point. 
*  Not your post, but the stupid things the media and some posters come up with.

[Emo EMAW]

Too many letters in NCAA, that's why Pete.  NFL, NBA, MLS, MLB, NHL....I mean would it kill them to shorten it to three letters? 

[bones129]

Too many letters in NCAA, that's why Pete.  NFL, NBA, MLS, MLB, NHL....I mean would it kill them to shorten it to three letters?

Some people I know call it the "NC Two A." But most folks I know call it the "NC Double A." Shortening to three letters would resolve this. (That said, I find "NC Double A" to be better, and more likely what the founders intended).

[AbeFroman]

This is going to end with Miami killing some NCAA guys and ending up in a cabin, which the NCAA then sets on fire.

[DQ12]

I think they would advocate for a separate league without all the red tape where presumably there would be less standards and players could be paid big bucks.

I don't think it's going to happen, and if it did, it would probably be devastating for schools like K-State.

[steve dave]

Jay Bilas is such a rough ridin' loser.

[Pete]

These media types that are opining on this are a joke.

Most of these are the same ones lamenting conference expansion for destroying tradition making the game less desirable.  What the hell happens if there is no NCAA watching out for this stuff?  Absolute chaos.  The conferences don't have the money to police the sports.  The rich would get infinitely richer, and the poor would die off.

One of the examples they gave is how you can't have a side job and be a full scholarship D1 athlete.  You know why that rule is there?  Because schools like OU and Alabama had players getting paid shitloads to do nothing as "jobs" (e.g. Bozworth watching an oil well go up and down). 

 

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, the NCAA has no real power over conference realignment.

They do need reform, but it's the schools and their Pres's that are responsible for doing that. 

My problem with the NCAA is that I think that have a bias against football in their enforcement because they derive very little of their revenue from football, I also think things have gotten way to cushy for NCAA executives, but that's a problem at a lot of non profits these days.

[ben ji]

These media types that are opining on this are a joke.

Most of these are the same ones lamenting conference expansion for destroying tradition making the game less desirable.  What the hell happens if there is no NCAA watching out for this stuff?  Absolute chaos.  The conferences don't have the money to police the sports.  The rich would get infinitely richer, and the poor would die off.

One of the examples they gave is how you can't have a side job and be a full scholarship D1 athlete.  You know why that rule is there?  Because schools like OU and Alabama had players getting paid shitloads to do nothing as "jobs" (e.g. Bozworth watching an oil well go up and down).

Dont think this is true. Yamon Figurs used to was dishes at Bolos and Reggie Walker was a bouncer at Tubbys.

[Rage Against the McKee]

These media types that are opining on this are a joke.

Most of these are the same ones lamenting conference expansion for destroying tradition making the game less desirable.  What the hell happens if there is no NCAA watching out for this stuff?  Absolute chaos.  The conferences don't have the money to police the sports.  The rich would get infinitely richer, and the poor would die off.

One of the examples they gave is how you can't have a side job and be a full scholarship D1 athlete.  You know why that rule is there?  Because schools like OU and Alabama had players getting paid shitloads to do nothing as "jobs" (e.g. Bozworth watching an oil well go up and down).

Dont think this is true. Yamon Figurs used to was dishes at Bolos and Reggie Walker was a bouncer at Tubbys.

Yeah, it's not true. You just can't have a side job like that OU QB had where he didn't have to go to work and got to drive around new cars all the time.

[JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross]

There is absolutely no reason why players cannot profit from their likeness or get paid endorsements. If you're going to continue to force football and basketball to subsidize all other non-revenue sports you have to compensate the players in some way. College degrees are getting to be worth less and less everyday.

[Emo EMAW]

Many coaches DON'T ALLOW their players to have side jobs.

[Rage Against the McKee]

There is absolutely no reason why players cannot profit from their likeness or get paid endorsements. If you're going to continue to force football and basketball to subsidize all other non-revenue sports you have to compensate the players in some way. College degrees are getting to be worth less and less everyday.

They are actually becoming more valuable. The investment in a college education is becoming poorer, due to rising costs, but the athletic scholarship covers all of that. If anything, a full ride is more valuable than it has ever been.

[AbeFroman]

Many coaches DON'T ALLOW their players to have side jobs.

FYBS

[Emo EMAW]

Many coaches DON'T ALLOW their players to have side jobs.

FYBS

Don't know anything about Bill, but like eff you Brian Gimmillaro.

[JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross]

There is absolutely no reason why players cannot profit from their likeness or get paid endorsements. If you're going to continue to force football and basketball to subsidize all other non-revenue sports you have to compensate the players in some way. College degrees are getting to be worth less and less everyday.

They are actually becoming more valuable. The investment in a college education is becoming poorer, due to rising costs, but the athletic scholarship covers all of that. If anything, a full ride is more valuable than it has ever been.

That's fair, but the NCAA received 705 million dollars just for the broadcast rights to the NCAA tourney last year (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Finances/Revenue). Is a college degree alone really a fair compensation?

[Rage Against the McKee]

There is absolutely no reason why players cannot profit from their likeness or get paid endorsements. If you're going to continue to force football and basketball to subsidize all other non-revenue sports you have to compensate the players in some way. College degrees are getting to be worth less and less everyday.

They are actually becoming more valuable. The investment in a college education is becoming poorer, due to rising costs, but the athletic scholarship covers all of that. If anything, a full ride is more valuable than it has ever been.

That's fair, but the NCAA received 705 million dollars just for the broadcast rights to the NCAA tourney last year (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Finances/Revenue). Is a college degree alone really a fair compensation?

That's a communist's way of looking at things, really. If it were completely unfair, schools would not be able to find quality athletes willing to play without pay.

[Shacks]

There is absolutely no reason why players cannot profit from their likeness or get paid endorsements. If you're going to continue to force football and basketball to subsidize all other non-revenue sports you have to compensate the players in some way. College degrees are getting to be worth less and less everyday.

They are actually becoming more valuable. The investment in a college education is becoming poorer, due to rising costs, but the athletic scholarship covers all of that. If anything, a full ride is more valuable than it has ever been.

That's fair, but the NCAA received 705 million dollars just for the broadcast rights to the NCAA tourney last year (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Finances/Revenue). Is a college degree alone really a fair compensation?

That's a communist's way of looking at things, really. If it were completely unfair, schools would not be able to find quality athletes willing to play without pay.

Asking why a group of people aren't compensated beyond a worthless PE degree for generating hundreds of millions of dollars for a bunch of suits is a communist's way of looking at things?

[Rage Against the McKee]

There is absolutely no reason why players cannot profit from their likeness or get paid endorsements. If you're going to continue to force football and basketball to subsidize all other non-revenue sports you have to compensate the players in some way. College degrees are getting to be worth less and less everyday.

They are actually becoming more valuable. The investment in a college education is becoming poorer, due to rising costs, but the athletic scholarship covers all of that. If anything, a full ride is more valuable than it has ever been.

That's fair, but the NCAA received 705 million dollars just for the broadcast rights to the NCAA tourney last year (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Finances/Revenue). Is a college degree alone really a fair compensation?

That's a communist's way of looking at things, really. If it were completely unfair, schools would not be able to find quality athletes willing to play without pay.

Asking why a group of people aren't compensated beyond a worthless PE degree for generating hundreds of millions of dollars for a bunch of suits is a communist's way of looking at things?

Nobody is forcing them to work for free, yet the best high school players in the world line up and hope they can get in.

[puniraptor]

Ayo Saba worked at blockbuster

[JohnCurrie is Weird/Gross]

There is absolutely no reason why players cannot profit from their likeness or get paid endorsements. If you're going to continue to force football and basketball to subsidize all other non-revenue sports you have to compensate the players in some way. College degrees are getting to be worth less and less everyday.

They are actually becoming more valuable. The investment in a college education is becoming poorer, due to rising costs, but the athletic scholarship covers all of that. If anything, a full ride is more valuable than it has ever been.

That's fair, but the NCAA received 705 million dollars just for the broadcast rights to the NCAA tourney last year (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Finances/Revenue). Is a college degree alone really a fair compensation?

That's a communist's way of looking at things, really. If it were completely unfair, schools would not be able to find quality athletes willing to play without pay.

Asking why a group of people aren't compensated beyond a worthless PE degree for generating hundreds of millions of dollars for a bunch of suits is a communist's way of looking at things?

Nobody is forcing them to work for free, yet the best high school players in the world line up and hope they can get in.

lol hope that they can get in? The schools BEG the best high school players to come to their school because the best athletes make the school shitloads of money with almost 0 costs to the school. Mark Zuckerberg can get a free computer science degree from Harvard while creating facebook in his spare time and can profit as much as he wants while remaining in good standing with the school. Why does having athletic talent as opposed to computer programming talent restrict you from profiting? And don't say they don't have to go to college; the NCAA is the only amateur institution that offers the exposure and training needed to pursue any type of professional career in athletics (excluding 2-3 high school basketball players per year). Of course it’s not the only way you can become a professional athlete, but trying to bypass the NCAA and still make it the pros has proven to be extremely difficult. If football/basketball players received universal stipend relative their sports worth and could profit off their likeness would everything really devolve into chaos?

[Rage Against the McKee]

There is absolutely no reason why players cannot profit from their likeness or get paid endorsements. If you're going to continue to force football and basketball to subsidize all other non-revenue sports you have to compensate the players in some way. College degrees are getting to be worth less and less everyday.

They are actually becoming more valuable. The investment in a college education is becoming poorer, due to rising costs, but the athletic scholarship covers all of that. If anything, a full ride is more valuable than it has ever been.

That's fair, but the NCAA received 705 million dollars just for the broadcast rights to the NCAA tourney last year (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Finances/Revenue). Is a college degree alone really a fair compensation?

That's a communist's way of looking at things, really. If it were completely unfair, schools would not be able to find quality athletes willing to play without pay.

Asking why a group of people aren't compensated beyond a worthless PE degree for generating hundreds of millions of dollars for a bunch of suits is a communist's way of looking at things?

Nobody is forcing them to work for free, yet the best high school players in the world line up and hope they can get in.

lol hope that they can get in? The schools BEG the best high school players to come to their school because the best athletes make the school shitloads of money with almost 0 costs to the school. Mark Zuckerberg can get a free computer science degree from Harvard while creating facebook in his spare time and can profit as much as he wants while remaining in good standing with the school. Why does having athletic talent as opposed to computer programming talent restrict you from profiting? And don't say they don't have to go to college; the NCAA is the only amateur institution that offers the exposure and training needed to pursue any type of professional career in athletics (excluding 2-3 high school basketball players per year). Of course it’s not the only way you can become a professional athlete, but trying to bypass the NCAA and still make it the pros has proven to be extremely difficult. If football/basketball players received universal stipend relative their sports worth and could profit off their likeness would everything really devolve into chaos?

Almost no division 1 athlete gets into the school that they would choose to go to if they could just pick one. They submit videos, hope they get asked for an official visit, and then choose out of the schools that are willing to take them.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Nobody is stopping somebody from creating a semi-pro league that takes athletes straight out of high school and competing with the NCAA. Nobody does that because they would not be able to afford to pay them enough to make their offer a better deal than the full ride scholarship they are getting from universities.

[Katpappy]

Nobody is stopping somebody from creating a semi-pro league that takes athletes straight out of high school and competing with the NCAA. Nobody does that because they would not be able to afford to pay them enough to make their offer a better deal than the full ride scholarship they are getting from universities.

What if you got a degree that only qualified you work for only one mega corporation; but if you work for them and are really good, you may get selected for an elite corporation that would pay many hundred times of what you are getting at the company that brought you in as a low payed intern.  IS THAT FAIR?  Because that's what high school althelics face with the pre-NFL tryout schools(NCAA).