Hoiberg

[SleepFighter]

Hoiberg is fine. His bad luck at ends of games will balance out eventually.

I used to think the same thing about Jim Woolridge

Imagine that.  A close game record near 50%.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/coaches/jim-wooldridge/career_record

[michigancat]

I mean, he beat oscar and Huggs in close games this year. PP is a stats guy, he needs to be more rational. I expect you to react emotionally, Limestone, it's what you do and I love you for it.

[steve dave]

close game record is a bullshit stat imo

[Dugout DickStone]

Rusty, let me bait ISU fans in peace.

[kso_FAN]

Hoiberg is fine. His bad luck at ends of games will balance out eventually.

Clones are #299 in kenpom's "Luck" rating.

Hawks are #181.

Cats are #20.

Luck - A measure of the deviation between a team’s actual winning percentage and what one would expect from its game-by-game efficiencies. It’s a Dean Oliver invention. Essentially, a team involved in a lot of close games should not win (or lose) all of them. Those that do will be viewed as lucky (or unlucky).

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think a good team that plays slow should win more close games than a good team that plays fast, simply because those last few possessions of the game constitute a higher percentage of the overall possessions in the game. It would be interesting to see the stats.

[kso_FAN]

The "non call" is a legit point, but...

Making 1 of 2 FTs on the other end, allowing the non-call to be a factor and not a (likely) contested 3?

1.3 points per possession and 64% eFG% allowed, AND KU rebounded 40% of their misses?

28% on 2s?

Hitting 1 of 9 from 3 the last 3 minutes and OT?

I'm don't feel sorry for ISU. They blew the game.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The "non call" is a legit point, but...

Making 1 of 2 FTs on the other end, allowing the non-call to be a factor and not a (likely) contested 3?

1.3 points per possession and 64% eFG% allowed, AND KU rebounded 40% of their misses?

28% on 2s?

Hitting 1 of 9 from 3 the last 3 minutes and OT?

I'm don't feel sorry for ISU. They blew the game.

OT probably goes a bit differently as well if Withey isn't on the floor with 5 fouls . . .

[nicname]

I've said before that I thought he was a good coach.   

[kso_FAN]

OT probably goes a bit differently as well if Withey isn't on the floor with 5 fouls . . .

OT shouldn't have been a factor.

In addition to that, from the 5 minute mark to the 3 minute mark ISU had 3 possessions with leads of 5, 5, and 2 points. In those possessions ISU used 20 seconds, 5 seconds, and 15 seconds of possession before shooting a shot. Surely the Mayor and his Rolodex of NBA plays has some better sets to use 25 seconds of clock, but still generate a decent 3. (I don't begrudge ISU shooting 3s, if anything they should have shot more the way they shot the ball from 2.)

[jmlynch1]

NBA shotclock

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't begrudge Hoiberg for shooting early in the shot clock on those possessions. It's hard to get a good shot when you hold the ball and try to use the full shot clock. The Cyclones won on the court. The refs decided to take over the game and give it to KU instead.

[ChiComCat]

The "non call" is a legit point, but...

Making 1 of 2 FTs on the other end, allowing the non-call to be a factor and not a (likely) contested 3?

1.3 points per possession and 64% eFG% allowed, AND KU rebounded 40% of their misses?

28% on 2s?

Hitting 1 of 9 from 3 the last 3 minutes and OT?

I'm don't feel sorry for ISU. They blew the game.

OT probably goes a bit differently as well if Withey isn't on the floor with 5 fouls . . .

Was there a reason for this?  I had the game on mute and couldn't figure this out

[Rage Against the McKee]

The "non call" is a legit point, but...

Making 1 of 2 FTs on the other end, allowing the non-call to be a factor and not a (likely) contested 3?

1.3 points per possession and 64% eFG% allowed, AND KU rebounded 40% of their misses?

28% on 2s?

Hitting 1 of 9 from 3 the last 3 minutes and OT?

I'm don't feel sorry for ISU. They blew the game.

OT probably goes a bit differently as well if Withey isn't on the floor with 5 fouls . . .

Was there a reason for this?  I had the game on mute and couldn't figure this out

Kevin Young raised his hand and the refs agreed to give Withey's 5th foul to him instead.

[ChiComCat]

The one that Withey reached clear across the guards body and Young didn't seem involved?  Makes sense for this game I guess

[Rage Against the McKee]

The one that Withey reached clear across the guards body and Young didn't seem involved?  Makes sense for this game I guess

Yeah, that was the one. This loss is on ISU, though. They should have shot 100% from the field, used the full shot clock every possession, and blocked every shot KU put up. Sure, KU would get some points on bogus foul calls, but ISU wins in that scenario every time.

[ChiComCat]

I hate to say the officials cost anybody the game but last nights game was as close as it gets.  Iowa St/Hoiberg didn't do everything perfect by any stretch but they did enough.

[kso_FAN]

I hate to say the officials cost anybody the game but last nights game was as close as it gets.  Iowa St/Hoiberg didn't do everything perfect by any stretch but they did enough.

I agree that there were multiple bad calls in the last minute. The non-call then foul on the ground on the last possession were really bad.

[kougar24]

You people talking about feeling sorry for ISU or not are missing the point. Feel sorry for EMAW.

[michigancat]

OT probably goes a bit differently as well if Withey isn't on the floor with 5 fouls . . .

OT shouldn't have been a factor.

In addition to that, from the 5 minute mark to the 3 minute mark ISU had 3 possessions with leads of 5, 5, and 2 points. In those possessions ISU used 20 seconds, 5 seconds, and 15 seconds of possession before shooting a shot. Surely the Mayor and his Rolodex of NBA plays has some better sets to use 25 seconds of clock, but still generate a decent 3. (I don't begrudge ISU shooting 3s, if anything they should have shot more the way they shot the ball from 2.)

I mean, it's really hard to blame their offense, too. Hoi's OEFF have been the second and third worst KU games this year.

[ChiComCat]

I hate to say the officials cost anybody the game but last nights game was as close as it gets.  Iowa St/Hoiberg didn't do everything perfect by any stretch but they did enough.

I agree that there were multiple bad calls in the last minute. The non-call then foul on the ground on the last possession were really bad.

Yea, if they had both been no calls, I get "let the players decide it" to a point (still would disagree but know its a view that some have).  But to not call the obvious and then call a questionable at best is incredibly weird and inconsistent.

[Dugout DickStone]

OT probably goes a bit differently as well if Withey isn't on the floor with 5 fouls . . .

OT shouldn't have been a factor.

In addition to that, from the 5 minute mark to the 3 minute mark ISU had 3 possessions with leads of 5, 5, and 2 points. In those possessions ISU used 20 seconds, 5 seconds, and 15 seconds of possession before shooting a shot. Surely the Mayor and his Rolodex of NBA plays has some better sets to use 25 seconds of clock, but still generate a decent 3. (I don't begrudge ISU shooting 3s, if anything they should have shot more the way they shot the ball from 2.)

I mean, it's really hard to blame their offense, too. Hoi's OEFF have been the second and third worst KU games this year.

They made a record number or 3's. 

[kso_FAN]

OT probably goes a bit differently as well if Withey isn't on the floor with 5 fouls . . .

OT shouldn't have been a factor.

In addition to that, from the 5 minute mark to the 3 minute mark ISU had 3 possessions with leads of 5, 5, and 2 points. In those possessions ISU used 20 seconds, 5 seconds, and 15 seconds of possession before shooting a shot. Surely the Mayor and his Rolodex of NBA plays has some better sets to use 25 seconds of clock, but still generate a decent 3. (I don't begrudge ISU shooting 3s, if anything they should have shot more the way they shot the ball from 2.)

I mean, it's really hard to blame their offense, too. Hoi's OEFF have been the second and third worst KU games this year.

True, their offense was really good and with around 4 minutes to go they were 16-32 from 3. It was pretty amazing that they were hit 28% from 2 though. And I partially couldn't blame the quick shots because they were shooting so well and I like the attack mode. But you always like things until they don't work, which is the only reason I'm questioning it. If they had hit one of those 3 shots they win the game most likely.

[michigancat]

OT probably goes a bit differently as well if Withey isn't on the floor with 5 fouls . . .

OT shouldn't have been a factor.

In addition to that, from the 5 minute mark to the 3 minute mark ISU had 3 possessions with leads of 5, 5, and 2 points. In those possessions ISU used 20 seconds, 5 seconds, and 15 seconds of possession before shooting a shot. Surely the Mayor and his Rolodex of NBA plays has some better sets to use 25 seconds of clock, but still generate a decent 3. (I don't begrudge ISU shooting 3s, if anything they should have shot more the way they shot the ball from 2.)

I mean, it's really hard to blame their offense, too. Hoi's OEFF have been the second and third worst KU games this year.

True, their offense was really good and with around 4 minutes to go they were 16-32 from 3. It was pretty amazing that they were hit 28% from 2 though. And I partially couldn't blame the quick shots because they were shooting so well and I like the attack mode. But you always like things until they don't work, which is the only reason I'm questioning it. If they had hit one of those 3 shots they win the game most likely.

This is just like the foul discussion. I think you're a little too emotional. (I would quantify this if I could. )

[kso_FAN]

This is just like the foul discussion. I think you're a little too emotional. (I would quantify this if I could. )