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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2013, 10:13:31 PM »
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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 07:02:42 AM »
Having a security council meeting to discuss what to do about one of the most sanctioned countries in the world.


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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 09:27:44 AM »
Relax, the UN is going to send them a strongly worded letter.     :flush:

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 01:17:00 PM »
Oh boy, can't wait for another perpetual war to help add a few more 0's to the deficit

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 01:25:27 PM »
what's the actual dynamic between NK and China?  If N. Korea does get crazy here and actually fires this thing somewhere (they won't, but stay with me), would China have their back if there was armed conflict?


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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 01:29:15 PM »
what's the actual dynamic between NK and China?  If N. Korea does get crazy here and actually fires this thing somewhere (they won't, but stay with me), would China have their back if there was armed conflict?

China is NK's biggest trade partner but I know China has their worries about the nuke program

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 01:36:44 PM »
what's the actual dynamic between NK and China?  If N. Korea does get crazy here and actually fires this thing somewhere (they won't, but stay with me), would China have their back if there was armed conflict?

Think of it this way-

China and NK were next door neighbors growing up and best friends in Elementary school. NK was kinda small and always getting in fights so China took them under their wing and said "You mess with NK you mess with me"(China was bigger than alot of kids in the class). They would sing patriotic songs on the way home from school and dig ditches together on the weekends, best friends in the whole wide world.

Once they got to high school china started playing sports and hanging out with some of the cooler kids. They would still kick it with NK from time to time and have their back but they started to drift apart.

Now China is a senior in High School and a superstar on the football team. NK is still starting fights n stuff but now china is a little hesitant to have their back because they dont want to get kicked off the football team for fighting in school.

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 01:40:44 PM »
what's the actual dynamic between NK and China?  If N. Korea does get crazy here and actually fires this thing somewhere (they won't, but stay with me), would China have their back if there was armed conflict?

Think of it this way-

China and NK were next door neighbors growing up and best friends in Elementary school. NK was kinda small and always getting in fights so China took them under their wing and said "You mess with NK you mess with me"(China was bigger than alot of kids in the class). They would sing patriotic songs on the way home from school and dig ditches together on the weekends, best friends in the whole wide world.

Once they got to high school china started playing sports and hanging out with some of the cooler kids. They would still kick it with NK from time to time and have their back but they started to drift apart.

Now China is a senior in High School and a superstar on the football team. NK is still starting fights n stuff but now china is a little hesitant to have their back because they dont want to get kicked off the football team for fighting in school.
i have a cursory understanding of the relationship between China and North Korea.

My question remains, if NK nuked (again, very unlikely) SK or the US and either state's dramatically larger military retaliated in some way on NK soil, is it likely that China would involve itself? 


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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2013, 01:43:10 PM »
what's the actual dynamic between NK and China?  If N. Korea does get crazy here and actually fires this thing somewhere (they won't, but stay with me), would China have their back if there was armed conflict?

Think of it this way-

China and NK were next door neighbors growing up and best friends in Elementary school. NK was kinda small and always getting in fights so China took them under their wing and said "You mess with NK you mess with me"(China was bigger than alot of kids in the class). They would sing patriotic songs on the way home from school and dig ditches together on the weekends, best friends in the whole wide world.

Once they got to high school china started playing sports and hanging out with some of the cooler kids. They would still kick it with NK from time to time and have their back but they started to drift apart.

Now China is a senior in High School and a superstar on the football team. NK is still starting fights n stuff but now china is a little hesitant to have their back because they dont want to get kicked off the football team for fighting in school.
i have a cursory understanding of the relationship between China and North Korea.

My question remains, if NK nuked (again, very unlikely) SK or the US and either state's dramatically larger military retaliated in some way on NK soil, is it likely that China would involve itself?

If NK nukes SK or USA, no China would not have their back

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 01:44:15 PM »
As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression. 


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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 01:50:31 PM »
My question remains, if NK nuked (again, very unlikely) SK or the US and either state's dramatically larger military retaliated in some way on NK soil, is it likely that China would involve itself?

If NK nukes SK or USA, no China would not have their back
thank you. 

BUT WHAT IF THEY DID!?  That would be so, so scary. 

As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression. 
Agreed.  Things aren't fair, but you know what?  It's better to be on our side of it than their side.  And i have little sympathy for North Korea.


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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2013, 01:55:21 PM »
As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.


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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2013, 01:58:21 PM »
 :lol:  as shallow as a wading pool.  Sad

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2013, 01:58:43 PM »
As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.


Seriously, if you don't like the United States, GTFO.  No one is restricting you from leaving and joining the Taliban.

Maybe he doesnt want to get hit with a drone strike?

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2013, 01:58:59 PM »
As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression.


Seriously, if you don't like the United States, GTFO.  No one is restricting you from leaving and joining the Taliban.

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2013, 02:06:42 PM »
My question remains, if NK nuked (again, very unlikely) SK or the US and either state's dramatically larger military retaliated in some way on NK soil, is it likely that China would involve itself?

If NK nukes SK or USA, no China would not have their back
thank you. 

BUT WHAT IF THEY DID!?  That would be so, so scary. 

As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression. 
Agreed.  Things aren't fair, but you know what?  It's better to be on our side of it than their side.  And i have little sympathy for North Korea.

From a HuffPost article today......

China, which has shown signs of increasing exasperation with its neighbour, repeated calls for the "denuclearisation" of the Korean peninsula and urged its client state and others to react calmly, while pressing Pyongyang not to ramp up tension further, something the North had threatened in the run-up to the test.

"We strongly urge North Korea to abide by its non-nuclear commitment and not to take any further actions that would worsen the situation", it said in a statement.

China is a permanent member of the Security Council.

South Korea, still technically at war with the North after the 1950-53 civil war ended in a mere truce, said the size of the seismic activity indicated a nuclear explosion slightly larger than the North's two previous tests at 6-7 kilotons, although that is still relatively small. The Hiroshima bomb was around 20 kilotons.

The U.S. Geological Survey said that a seismic event measuring 5.1 magnitude had occurred on Tuesday, with North Korea later confirming the nuclear test.

"It was confirmed that the nuclear test that was carried out at a high level in a safe and perfect manner using a miniaturized and lighter nuclear device with greater explosive force than previously did not pose any negative impact on the surrounding ecological environment," KCNA said.

Despite China's tame response, it likely to be a major embarrassment for Beijing, the North's sole major economic and diplomatic ally.

"The test is hugely insulting to China, which now can be expected to follow through with threats to impose sanctions," said Mark Fitzpatrick of the International Institute for Strategic Studies think tank.

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2013, 02:08:00 PM »
Best option is convincing China to shoot down their next missile test for us.

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2013, 02:09:53 PM »
A belligerent NK means a larger U.S. military prescence, something China does not want while looking across at Taiwan and the territorial dispute with Japan.


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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2013, 02:11:48 PM »
A belligerent NK means a larger U.S. military prescence, something China does not want while looking across at Taiwan and the territorial dispute with Japan.
Well then maybe China should keep a better eye on their Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cousin.
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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2013, 02:17:46 PM »
A belligerent NK means a larger U.S. military prescence, something China does not want while looking across at Taiwan and the territorial dispute with Japan.
Well then maybe China should keep a better eye keep their Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cousin.

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2013, 02:42:50 PM »


As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression. 
Agreed.  Things aren't fair, but you know what?  It's better to be on our side of it than their side.  And i have little sympathy for North Korea.


Oh totally. But man, I would hate it SO much if I was from anywhere else.

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2013, 02:50:45 PM »


As the U.S. pursues things like Prompt Global Strike, nuclear weapons will be the only leverage smaller nations have against U.S. hegemony and aggression. 
Agreed.  Things aren't fair, but you know what?  It's better to be on our side of it than their side.  And i have little sympathy for North Korea.


Oh totally. But man, I would hate it SO much if I was from anywhere else.

I love it when other Americans show their ignorance by acting surprised or offended that a lot of non-Americans hate the US.  The rest of the world has good reasons to hate us.

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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2013, 03:42:22 PM »
NK is china's junkyard dog.  They secretly support it and feign concern about its antics.

The seismic activity is probably caused by fracking in the US :lol:
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Re: Seismic activity reported in area of previous North Korea nuclear tests
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2013, 03:51:33 PM »
NK is china's junkyard dog.  They secretly support it and feign concern about its antics.

The seismic activity is probably caused by fracking in the US :lol:

no. it would benefit china to not have a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)-cousin-junkyard-dog-with-a-nuke in their backyard, but they can't help liberate 25million north koreans without the billion or so oppressed at home asking some serious questions of their own.