JO

[Berries and Cream]

He is trying to impress NBA scouts IMO.

THE definition of talking out of ones ass.

Agree with you here, MIR, but just curious - have seen multiple posts in which you refer to your thoughts on JO. For those of us with short attention spans, can you summarize your thoughts on him?

[kougar24]

we've got a find a way to get JO's defense and rebounding on the floor.

[MakeItRain]

He is trying to impress NBA scouts IMO.

THE definition of talking out of ones ass.

Agree with you here, MIR, but just curious - have seen multiple posts in which you refer to your thoughts on JO. For those of us with short attention spans, can you summarize your thoughts on him?

Not sure if serious, I'd bet 10% of my posts are about JO. He is a serviceable D1 big man. I believe, statistically he is still our best rebounder. He is average around the basket considering his build. He is great facing up and above the rim. People that complain about him haven't been able to formulate coherent thought about why he sucks. People hate him because for some reason they expect him to be a 15/8/3 guy and I have no idea why. His numbers would be better in the pinch post offense but that offense isn't here, c'est la vie.

[kougar24]

He is trying to impress NBA scouts IMO.

THE definition of talking out of ones ass.

Agree with you here, MIR, but just curious - have seen multiple posts in which you refer to your thoughts on JO. For those of us with short attention spans, can you summarize your thoughts on him?

Not sure if serious, I'd bet 10% of my posts are about JO. He is a serviceable D1 big man. I believe, statistically he is still our best rebounder. He is average around the basket considering his build. He is great facing up and above the rim. People that complain about him haven't been able to formulate coherent thought about why he sucks. People hate him because for some reason they expect him to be a 15/8/3 guy and I have no idea why. His numbers would be better in the pinch post offense but that offense isn't here, c'est la vie.

You do know JO's post defense is rough ridin' horrid, don't you?

[MakeItRain]

I believe, statistically he is still our best rebounder...People that complain about him haven't been able to formulate coherent thought about why he sucks. People hate him because for some reason they expect him to be a 15/8/3 guy and I have no idea why.

on cue

we've got a find a way to get JO's defense and rebounding on the floor.

see berries, the dumbasses make it pretty easy

[sys]

we've got a find a way to get JO's defense and rebounding on the floor.

had five rebounds in 18 minutes.  two of the team's six oboards.

[kougar24]

I believe, statistically he is still our best rebounder...People that complain about him haven't been able to formulate coherent thought about why he sucks. People hate him because for some reason they expect him to be a 15/8/3 guy and I have no idea why.

on cue

we've got a find a way to get JO's defense and rebounding on the floor.

see berries, the dumbasses make it pretty easy

Protip: It can't be "on cue" if I posted before you.

[MakeItRain]

He is trying to impress NBA scouts IMO.

THE definition of talking out of ones ass.

Agree with you here, MIR, but just curious - have seen multiple posts in which you refer to your thoughts on JO. For those of us with short attention spans, can you summarize your thoughts on him?

Not sure if serious, I'd bet 10% of my posts are about JO. He is a serviceable D1 big man. I believe, statistically he is still our best rebounder. He is average around the basket considering his build. He is great facing up and above the rim. People that complain about him haven't been able to formulate coherent thought about why he sucks. People hate him because for some reason they expect him to be a 15/8/3 guy and I have no idea why. His numbers would be better in the pinch post offense but that offense isn't here, c'est la vie.

You do know JO's post defense is rough ridin' horrid, don't you?

no, tell me. Can you also tell me how his rebounding is also rough ridin' horrid?

[kougar24]

He is trying to impress NBA scouts IMO.

THE definition of talking out of ones ass.

Agree with you here, MIR, but just curious - have seen multiple posts in which you refer to your thoughts on JO. For those of us with short attention spans, can you summarize your thoughts on him?

Not sure if serious, I'd bet 10% of my posts are about JO. He is a serviceable D1 big man. I believe, statistically he is still our best rebounder. He is average around the basket considering his build. He is great facing up and above the rim. People that complain about him haven't been able to formulate coherent thought about why he sucks. People hate him because for some reason they expect him to be a 15/8/3 guy and I have no idea why. His numbers would be better in the pinch post offense but that offense isn't here, c'est la vie.

You do know JO's post defense is rough ridin' horrid, don't you?

no, tell me. Can you also tell me how his rebounding is also rough ridin' horrid?

No, because it's not (not as good as it should be, but not horrid). But his post D is.

[Powercat Posse]

I would like him better if he just played his role better.  I feel he is too concerned with scoring points.  He can get that 12-14 foot jumper whenever he wants, but sometimes, he has it in his mind as soon as the catches the ball, he is going to square up and shoot

We dont need him to score unless its off of a rebound or being 2 feet from the goal and actually catching a ball when his man goes to help. 

I have no issue with his rebounding, but he hasnt put focus into being a very good defensive player this year. 

[MakeItRain]

There were at least 3 times tonight that he had that shot and passed it up only to lead to no points. If you can't/don't want to take open 12 footers you should quit basketball. There is no level beyond B team middle school that any coach play anyone and tell them not to take open 12 footers. If you have a player that even isn't a threat to shoot from there they should get off the court because you're playing 5 on 4.

[Powercat Posse]

There were at least 3 times tonight that he had that shot and passed it up only to lead to no points. If you can't/don't want to take open 12 footers you should quit basketball. There is no level beyond B team middle school that any coach play anyone and tell them not to take open 12 footers. If you have a player that even isn't a threat to shoot from there they should get off the court because you're playing 5 on 4.

Went and looked at box scores.  Now i know i talked about him shooting 12 footers, but JO has missed 11 of last 13  and is 5-19 on shots being deemed a "jump shot" in conf play.  Those could be 5 foot shots or 12 foot jump shots, but 5-19 is terrible dude.  16-22 on layups/dunks/tips.   Sorry, but if he is not getting a stickback or a dunk or from someone driving in and giving him an easy layup,  i dont want him thinking offense.  Focus on being a stud on D.

[MakeItRain]

There were at least 3 times tonight that he had that shot and passed it up only to lead to no points. If you can't/don't want to take open 12 footers you should quit basketball. There is no level beyond B team middle school that any coach play anyone and tell them not to take open 12 footers. If you have a player that even isn't a threat to shoot from there they should get off the court because you're playing 5 on 4.

Went and looked at box scores.  Now i know i talked about him shooting 12 footers, but JO has missed 11 of last 13  and is 5-19 on shots being deemed a "jump shot" in conf play.  Those could be 5 foot shots or 12 foot jump shots, but 5-19 is terrible dude.  16-22 on layups/dunks/tips.   Sorry, but if he is not getting a stickback or a dunk or from someone driving in and giving him an easy layup,  i dont want him thinking offense.  Focus on being a stud on D.

that is well below 2 shots a game, its fine man.

[mocat]

oscar should go to jail for what he did to JO.

This was the first thing that made me laugh since last night. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Just catch the ball and dunk it Jo.   

A 7 footer that gets stuffed by the rim is not good.

[meow meow]

pretty hilarious watching JO try and take a charge last night

[Belvis Noland]

JO has been fine in some other games.  He played great against Florida, for instance.  And I think he'll be alright in our next four against non-good big men - Baylor, WVU, Texas, Tech. 

But, narrowed exclusively to the KU game, he was absolutely, unequivocally, horrible.  That's all there is to it.  His stat line was rough ridin' garbage.  18 minutes - 2pts, 0 FT attempts, 5 boards, 3 turnovers.  Meanwhile, Withey and Kevin rough ridin' Young combined for 30 pts.  JO and Gip got absolutely abused. 

Posterized, figuratively and literally.     

Like I said, against the rest of our schedule - teams who don't have good big men - I anticipate that JO, and especially GIP, will be much better. 

[bigwillie20]

Just catch the ball

That would be a good start

[kso_FAN]

JO has been fine in some other games.  He played great against Florida, for instance.  And I think he'll be alright in our next four against non-good big men - Baylor, WVU, Texas, Tech. 

But, narrowed exclusively to the KU game, he was absolutely, unequivocally, horrible.  That's all there is to it.  His stat line was rough ridin' garbage.  18 minutes - 2pts, 0 FT attempts, 5 boards, 3 turnovers.  Meanwhile, Withey and Kevin rough ridin' Young combined for 30 pts.  JO and Gip got absolutely abused. 

Posterized, figuratively and literally.     

Like I said, against the rest of our schedule - teams who don't have good big men - I anticipate that JO, and especially GIP, will be much better. 

Yes, you made the point well yesterday about our bigs and last night affirmed it.

KU is an awful match-up for us inside, but very few teams have a Withey. Most of the time we'll have better match-ups and Gip will be able to get a few in the lane. And Rodney won't be blocked every other time he attacks the rim. And in general our players won't go in the lane and change their shots.

Also reaffirmed that our best strategy against a team like that is what we tried in the first game; shoot 30 3s and hope you make 40%.

[pissclams]

JO has been fine in some other games.  He played great against Florida, for instance.  And I think he'll be alright in our next four against non-good big men - Baylor

what?

[Belvis Noland]

JO has been fine in some other games.  He played great against Florida, for instance.  And I think he'll be alright in our next four against non-good big men - Baylor

what?

Yeah, Baylor's bigs are quality.  However, I'm still not concerned like I am with a Withey.  Austin and Jefferson are both solid, but I've seen several games where Austin has dissapeared under pressure.  He's still a freshman.  Puts up some solid numbers, but he doesn't change a team's game plan like Withey does, IMO. 

[MakeItRain]

JO has been fine in some other games.  He played great against Florida, for instance.  And I think he'll be alright in our next four against non-good big men - Baylor

what?

Yeah, Baylor's bigs are quality.  However, I'm still not concerned like I am with a Withey.  Austin and Jefferson are both solid, but I've seen several games where Austin has dissapeared under pressure.  He's still a freshman.  Puts up some solid numbers, but he doesn't change a team's game plan like Withey does, IMO.

Yeah the Baylor bigs, while skilled, aren't nearly as physical or aggressive as Withey is. I actually think Gip would have been pretty good last night if he could have stayed on the floor. He looked pretty aggressive and his energy was good the few minutes he had.

[kougar24]

JO has been fine in some other games.  He played great against Florida, for instance.  And I think he'll be alright in our next four against non-good big men - Baylor

what?

Yeah, Baylor's bigs are quality.  However, I'm still not concerned like I am with a Withey.  Austin and Jefferson are both solid, but I've seen several games where Austin has dissapeared under pressure.  He's still a freshman.  Puts up some solid numbers, but he doesn't change a team's game plan like Withey does, IMO.

Yeah the Baylor bigs, while skilled, aren't nearly as physical or aggressive as Withey is. I actually think Gip would have been pretty good last night if he could have stayed on the floor. He looked pretty aggressive and his energy was good the few minutes he had.

His nonchalant, "Well, wtf can I do?" walk to the bench after #5 last night was the highlight of the evening for me. We were cracking up at his face (a combination of and ).

[Gooch]

I want good JO back from the end of last year.

[Belvis Noland]

Just remember that JO wasn't "good" last year against KU either.  He had 8pts and 9boards in both games combined.