Author Topic: :horrorsurprise Murder in Manhattan, two KSU students arrested. murder, arson (Read 3750 times)

nicname · « **on:** February 08, 2013, 08:32:52 PM »

http://www.kstatecollegian.com/2013/02/08/two-students-arrested-for-murder-arson-in-connection-with-apartment-fire-fatality/

steve dave · « **Reply #1 on:** February 08, 2013, 08:33:36 PM »

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #2 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:00:47 PM »

wtf were they doing, cooking meth?

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:08:07 PM »

She has crazy eyes.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:10:01 PM »

WELP!

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:20:31 PM »

Those people are not K-Staters.

nicname · « **Reply #6 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:23:31 PM »

Quote from: CartierFor3 on February 08, 2013, 09:20:31 PM

Those people are not K-Staters.

NOT ANYMORE!

AbeFroman · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:32:04 PM »

nicname · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2013, 11:23:10 PM »

Hank Rolando?

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Hank Rolando
about an hour ago · Like

ednksu · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2013, 04:31:09 AM »

Bloodfart · « **Reply #10 on:** February 09, 2013, 07:40:32 AM »

Everybody loses in this story.

GoodForAnother · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2013, 08:10:00 AM »

my cousin has to feel good about this. he got arrested a few days ago for possession with intent and trying to rob a Dara's Fast Lane. now he's no longer the "new guy" at Riley County Jail.

LilSmokyMcIntyre · « **Reply #12 on:** February 09, 2013, 09:45:31 AM »

Wtf is this? Love triangle? 2 students caught cheating in a class and killed the one who knew? This smells scandalous.

The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2013, 12:52:03 PM »

Right by 'Meister's residence

hemmy · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2013, 01:41:17 PM »

damn...

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2013, 07:43:34 PM »

Quote from: Kelly Klarkson Kreep on February 10, 2013, 12:52:03 PM

Right by 'Meister's residence

Yeah it was really strange. You could look into the 2nd floor windows and you couldn't even tell there was a fire. Everyone was making jokes about having 14 emergency vehicles at a tiny apartment fire, and then we saw a stretcher go in and come out

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Also of note, that guy and his brother went to my grade school. His brother was in my class and I used to carpool to football practice with him. His mother is insanely sheltering. The type of parent that wouldn't let a PG movie be shown to a 6th grade class. These two were always obsessed with guns and the military. I could have seen this coming from a million miles away.

'taterblast · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2013, 07:46:59 PM »

so was this a fire that they intentionally set with the purpose of #burningitdown?

or just completely negligent behavior that led to a fire?

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #17 on:** February 10, 2013, 07:51:42 PM »

Quote from: emawblast on February 10, 2013, 07:46:59 PM

so was this a fire that they intentionally set with the purpose of #burningitdown?

or just completely negligent behavior that led to a fire?

My thought is that it was a prank that led to a death.

DQ12 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 10, 2013, 07:56:42 PM »

Quote from: EMAWmeister on February 10, 2013, 07:43:34 PM

Also of note, that guy and his brother went to my grade school. His brother was in my class and I used to carpool to football practice with him. His mother is insanely sheltering. The type of parent that wouldn't let a PG movie be shown to a 6th grade class. These two were always obsessed with guns and the military. I could have seen this coming from a million miles away.

I knew I recognized that name.

Trim · « **Reply #19 on:** February 10, 2013, 08:00:44 PM »

Quote from: EMAWmeister on February 10, 2013, 07:43:34 PM

I could have seen this coming from a million miles away.

You should've stopped it, in my (the most ethical on this board) opinion.

SdK · « **Reply #20 on:** February 10, 2013, 08:44:37 PM »

michigancat · « **Reply #21 on:** February 10, 2013, 09:12:43 PM »

Seems like an awfully quick investigation

8manpick · « **Reply #22 on:** February 10, 2013, 09:16:18 PM »

Admission maybe? Witnesses?

Panjandrum · « **Reply #23 on:** February 11, 2013, 12:09:16 AM »

Quote from: 8manpick on February 10, 2013, 09:16:18 PM

Admission maybe? Witnesses?

Maybe someone rolled over.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #24 on:** February 11, 2013, 01:57:47 AM »

Quote from: EMAWmeister on February 10, 2013, 07:51:42 PM

Quote from: emawblast on April 24, 1974, 11:58:41 AM

was this a fire that they intentionally set with the purpose of #burningitdown?

or just completely negligent behavior that led to a fire?

My thought is that it was a prank that led to a death.

Not a lawyer but I don't think felony murder would be the charge for a prank gone wrong.

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Felony murder rule (Kansas)
For the felony murder rule in all U.S. jurisdictions, see felony murder rule.
In the state of Kansas, the common law felony murder rule has been codified in K.S.A. 21-3401. The statute defines first degree murder as, among other things, homicide in the commission of, attempt to commit, or escape from an inherently dangerous felony. Inherently dangerous felonies are defined in K.S.A. 21-3436 and include armed robbery, arson, and aggravated burglary.[1]

Judicial interpretations

In the case State v. Hoang, 243 Kan. 40 (1988), the Supreme Court of Kansas held that the accidental death of a co-felon during the commission of arson could support a felony murder conviction.[2]

In the case State v. Sophophone, 270 Kan. 703 (2001), the Supreme Court of Kansas held that a felony murder conviction could not be supported if the co-felon was killed by lawful attempts at apprehension by a police officer.[3]