Author Topic: #teamangel (Read 13298 times)

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 30, 2013, 10:52:46 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on January 30, 2013, 10:23:28 PM

Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.

Wow! Can't hate, just a bold statement. #TeamShane guns blazing.

Lucas Scoopsalot · « **Reply #26 on:** January 30, 2013, 10:54:00 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on January 30, 2013, 10:49:15 PM

Quote from: kougar24 on January 30, 2013, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: michigancat on January 30, 2013, 10:23:28 PM
Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.

Hasn't eclipsed Pullen, Clemente, or Beaz for me yet.

But there's still time.

beasley is still close. But he's far surpassed Pullen and clemente.

Pullen is by far my favorite. I can't remember ever enjoying basketball as much as I did when he was around.

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #27 on:** January 30, 2013, 10:54:33 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on January 30, 2013, 10:23:28 PM

Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.

If Angel ends up shooting .35+ from 3 his jr and sr year, then he will be my fav of all time.

sys · « **Reply #28 on:** January 30, 2013, 10:57:07 PM »

he's my favorite recruit of all time.

bones129 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 30, 2013, 11:12:01 PM »

Quote from: ksudeuce on January 30, 2013, 10:45:42 PM

Quote from: pissclams on January 30, 2013, 10:30:23 PM
needs to be a leader on the floor and in the classroom, last I checked he hasn't made academic big 12 squat

That's valuable time he could be using to work on his 3 point jumpshot.

Deuce nailed it. Priorities, after all.

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 30, 2013, 11:50:18 PM »

It's really conflicting that I love Angel so much yet everytime he steps up to take a 3, I cringe.

sys · « **Reply #31 on:** January 31, 2013, 12:22:31 AM »

Quote from: Jakesie60 on January 30, 2013, 11:50:18 PM

It's really conflicting that I love Angel so much yet everytime he steps up to take a 3, I cringe.

you shouldn't.

felix rex · « **Reply #32 on:** January 31, 2013, 06:37:21 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on January 30, 2013, 10:23:28 PM

Angel is my favorite ksu player of all time.

Yes. He will be our Steve Henson.

mocat · « **Reply #33 on:** January 31, 2013, 08:31:14 AM »

Comparisons to sophomore year Jake are validated:

Quote from: kenpom

Advanced stats profile for Angel Rodriguez
Similar: '07 A.J. Price, '07 Dominic James, '10 Erving Walker, '11 Maalik Wayns, '09 Jacob Pullen

kso_FAN · « **Reply #34 on:** January 31, 2013, 08:38:07 AM »

Quote from: mocat on January 31, 2013, 08:31:14 AM

Comparisons to sophomore year Jake are validated:

Quote from: kenpom
Advanced stats profile for Angel Rodriguez
Similar: '07 A.J. Price, '07 Dominic James, '10 Erving Walker, '11 Maalik Wayns, '09 Jacob Pullen

He's actually slipped a bit in that comparison; probably because his assist rate is going up (way up) while his 3PT shooting and TO% go down.

mocat · « **Reply #35 on:** January 31, 2013, 08:42:25 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 31, 2013, 08:38:07 AM

Quote from: mocat on January 31, 2013, 08:31:14 AM
Comparisons to sophomore year Jake are validated:

Quote from: kenpom
Advanced stats profile for Angel Rodriguez
Similar: '07 A.J. Price, '07 Dominic James, '10 Erving Walker, '11 Maalik Wayns, '09 Jacob Pullen

He's actually slipped a bit in that comparison; probably because his assist rate is going up (way up) while his 3PT shooting and TO% go down.

I also thought it was cool that all of those names (except Walker; not sure what he's up to) are currently playing professional basketball

Powercat Posse · « **Reply #36 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:14:01 PM »

Angel is just 13 for his last 57 from 3pt land. He has been playing outstanding ball here of late, so his shooting can be overlooked some.

But it would be nice if he could just hit 33% of his long distant shots.

I keep saying it, but too many of his 3pt misses are because he is 2-3 feet behind the arc.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #37 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:18:40 PM »

Quote from: Powercat Posse on January 31, 2013, 01:14:01 PM

Angel is just 13 for his last 57 from 3pt land. He has been playing outstanding ball here of late, so his shooting can be overlooked some.

But it would be nice if he could just hit 33% of his long distant shots.

I keep saying it, but too many of his 3pt misses are because he is 2-3 feet behind the arc.

And he's missing good shots, very few are forced. If he starts hitting 3s and continues his pace with assists and steals, he'll be a lock for all Big 12. In Big 12 games he's 2nd in steals and first in assists and way out in front in assist to TO ratio. And those traditional stats are what most of the people who vote for those things will look at.

pissclams · « **Reply #38 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:31:58 PM »

the only stat we should be worried about as it relates to angel are his assists. as long as those are up, his shooting % won't have an effect on the team one way or another.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #39 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:36:12 PM »

I'm not worried about his shooting...

but if he does hit 1/3 of his 3s...

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:43:21 PM »

He made a guy fall down because his moves are so good. He missed the layup after that, but still, it was awesome.

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #41 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:45:43 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 31, 2013, 01:36:12 PM

I'm not worried about his shooting...

but if he does hit 1/3 of his 3s...

Yep, he's very good right now, but would be great if he starts hitting from the outside.

pissclams · « **Reply #42 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:47:25 PM »

i don't think angel thinks of himself as a 3 point shooter, and he's not one. it's a part of his game he'll have to develop. at this point in his college career he's really just starting to solidify his given skill set (the one he brought to college), at the d1 level. dribble, dish, drive, creating scoring opportunities for others.

if i had my way, he'd strengthen his current skills today and polish his perimeter game throughout the summer and into next season. that would be my expectation anyway.

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #43 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:50:36 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on January 31, 2013, 01:47:25 PM

i don't think angel thinks of himself as a 3 point shooter, and he's not one. it's a part of his game he'll have to develop. at this point in his college career he's really just starting to solidify his given skill set (the one he brought to college), at the d1 level. dribble, dish, drive, creating scoring opportunities for others.

if i had my way, he'd strengthen his current skills today and polish his perimeter game throughout the summer and into next season. that would be my expectation anyway.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #44 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:57:48 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on January 31, 2013, 01:47:25 PM

i don't think angel thinks of himself as a 3 point shooter, and he's not one. it's a part of his game he'll have to develop. at this point in his college career he's really just starting to solidify his given skill set (the one he brought to college), at the d1 level. dribble, dish, drive, creating scoring opportunities for others.

if i had my way, he'd strengthen his current skills today and polish his perimeter game throughout the summer and into next season. that would be my expectation anyway.

I'm sure he knows that's not his main role, but he still shoots nearly 4 threes per game in Big 12 play. If he's open he's going to let it go. I'm good with that, but it would be nice if he was shooting better than 18.5%. That's not intended to be a major criticism of Angel, but if there is one thing about his game in Big 12 play (besides some of his fouls when they keep him off the floor) its that.

SdK · « **Reply #45 on:** January 31, 2013, 02:41:33 PM »

Momma SK has a crush on Angel. Prefers him when he smiles though.

kougar24 · « **Reply #46 on:** January 31, 2013, 03:32:21 PM »

His slow release cracks me up. I mean, they're good looks when he starts his shot, but by the time he rises & fires an hour and a half later, there's prob. someone in his face.

Don't care tho, go #teamangel!

bigwillie20 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 31, 2013, 03:34:38 PM »

I wanted that spinning reverse flip layup to the hoop when he got fouled to go in so bad

kougar24 · « **Reply #48 on:** January 31, 2013, 03:35:45 PM »

Quote from: bigwillie20 on January 31, 2013, 03:34:38 PM

I wanted that spinning reverse flip layup to the hoop when he got fouled to go in so bad

That thing nearly defied physics.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #49 on:** January 31, 2013, 03:53:19 PM »

I don't really have a problem with Angel's poor 3 pt percentage because he's not trying to force 3's and he's just so good at everything else.