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Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« on: January 20, 2013, 01:16:07 PM »
Idea 1: Box and 1 on Mac (with Sugar Shane following him around)

Reasonable Idea 2: What has to happen:
Angel-EJ
Shane-Mac
Sprads-Releford
Gruds-KY
JO-Withey

Maybe go soft full court trap for a stretch to slow them down (watch for oops Oh God that is scary).

I am very worried about our hedges getting destroyed and if OU got 4 points off inbounds plays for dunkshots WOOF.  We will definitely need to be hyper aggressive against EJ, sag off KY and double down on Withey.  We have to hope that Releford/EJ do not hit open 3's and JO needs to go beast mode.  Also, we just got physically dominated by OU on the boards.  That will be a recipe for disaster against KU.  So other than that...


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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 01:22:28 PM »
Off topic:  Re-watching OU @ KSU on WatchESPN and KK is a joy to watch on the sideline.
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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 01:34:34 PM »
Idea: Don't guard Kevin Young because he sucks.
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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2013, 01:37:52 PM »
Gip did much better on Withey in the past.  JO gets pushed around quite a bit. Gip generally has kept him outside the 4 ft around the basket where he is effective on offense.

Hopefully Gruds on KY will save his energy for offense.  As KK said in the ISU-KU thread, if KY wants to shoot elbow jumpers, let him.  Also gives a defender with decent size the ability to help.  If Will starts out poorly, Tay should get the majority of the minutes for his defense.

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2013, 01:48:06 PM »
We. Are. mumped.
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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2013, 01:51:27 PM »
Why is no one talking about how our coach held a funeral for their coach?  You want to talk about intangibles, that's a rough ridin' intangible right there.

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2013, 01:52:47 PM »
Why is no one talking about how our coach held a funeral for their coach?  You want to talk about intangibles, that's a rough ridin' intangible right there.

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 01:55:13 PM »
I hope to God the Bram staff will play this doozy coming out of time outs on Tuesday.


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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 02:01:51 PM »
Gruds will guard Mac.

Doesn't seem like its been talked about a lot, but Rod did a very nice job on Pledger.

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2013, 02:19:18 PM »
Gruds will guard Mac.

Doesn't seem like its been talked about a lot, but Rod did a very nice job on Pledger.

Yep, and KY is just about Shane's speed. Not too quick and not too strong, so Shane should be able to guard him effectively.
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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2013, 02:24:09 PM »
Gruds will guard Mac.

Doesn't seem like its been talked about a lot, but Rod did a very nice job on Pledger.

Yep, and KY is just about Shane's speed. Not too quick and not too strong, so Shane should be able to guard him effectively.

That is a waste of both Shane and Rod's energy (too much of Rod's/not enough of Shane).  Only way I like that is if Shane is basically a rover because KY is worthless outside of putback/dunk range.

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2013, 02:24:53 PM »
Gruds will guard Mac.

Doesn't seem like its been talked about a lot, but Rod did a very nice job on Pledger.

Yep, and KY is just about Shane's speed. Not too quick and not too strong, so Shane should be able to guard him effectively.

I'm not saying Rod will do this to Mac, but there seemed like long stretches of the game where Pledger wasn't even on the floor because he didn't touch the ball or get shots. He ended up with a good offensive rating, but only took 6 shots (16% for %shots). His %shots for the season is 24.7%, so Rod's defense made him much less a part of OU's offense when he was on the floor than he typically is.

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2013, 02:32:32 PM »
What if Ellis goes beast mode because we backed off on him? :ohno:

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2013, 02:57:22 PM »
 JO has been weak against Withey in the past.  IMO I'd give him the start over Gip and tell him to bring it from the opening tip or else he won't see the floor again.  Need him to show up/play big minutes if we're going to win this one...which means limit stupid fouls (same goes for Angel).
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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2013, 03:14:03 PM »
Niño should give ky trouble if he can turn his game around. Ky won't be use to playing someone quicker and more physical then him.

Key with withey is keeping him away from the basket he has terrible ball skills.

Hopefully KU has to play Tharpe a lot because of a lack of a point guards presences, Angel kills small guards. 

I wouldn't be surprised to see Will guard Mac.

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2013, 03:27:58 PM »
Gruds will guard Mac.

Doesn't seem like its been talked about a lot, but Rod did a very nice job on Pledger.

Yep, and KY is just about Shane's speed. Not too quick and not too strong, so Shane should be able to guard him effectively.

That is a waste of both Shane and Rod's energy (too much of Rod's/not enough of Shane).  Only way I like that is if Shane is basically a rover because KY is worthless outside of putback/dunk range.

SO, are you saying that they should split time on Mac? Or are you saying that Southie has a lot more energy than Rod? I'm confused  :dunno:
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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2013, 03:34:41 PM »
Mac has not been a dominant force early in games, by and large .  Will can steal 5 minutes or as start the game :pray:

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2013, 03:35:43 PM »
Gruds will guard Mac.

Doesn't seem like its been talked about a lot, but Rod did a very nice job on Pledger.

Yep, and KY is just about Shane's speed. Not too quick and not too strong, so Shane should be able to guard him effectively.

That is a waste of both Shane and Rod's energy (too much of Rod's/not enough of Shane).  Only way I like that is if Shane is basically a rover because KY is worthless outside of putback/dunk range.

SO, are you saying that they should split time on Mac? Or are you saying that Southie has a lot more energy than Rod? I'm confused  :dunno:
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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2013, 03:38:38 PM »
Gruds will guard Mac.

Doesn't seem like its been talked about a lot, but Rod did a very nice job on Pledger.

Yep, and KY is just about Shane's speed. Not too quick and not too strong, so Shane should be able to guard him effectively.

That is a waste of both Shane and Rod's energy (too much of Rod's/not enough of Shane).  Only way I like that is if Shane is basically a rover because KY is worthless outside of putback/dunk range.

SO, are you saying that they should split time on Mac? Or are you saying that Southie has a lot more energy than Rod? I'm confused  :dunno:
We will switch all screens 1-3, hell sometimes we might switch 1-4.

Yeah, If Kevin young gets a ton of PT and Southie is playing well enough to get some serious minutes, then I could see this happening. I just don't want to see them exploit that by getting a lot of Sprads-Mac matchups.
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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2013, 04:15:30 PM »
Don't think Mac would destroy Will, Mac likes catch and shoot. Will is pretty darn good off the ball.

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2013, 04:17:22 PM »
Would love to see Shaneon Mac to start, if it doesn't work early put Rod on him, but would love to save Rods legs for the O side of the ball and him being on KY would hopefully be lesser chance of foul trouble  :dunno:

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2013, 04:54:32 PM »
 I want McGruds on McLemore, bc I don't want McLemore to score and think he'll probably get some cheap fouls (otb, reaching in after a dboard) if McGruds guards him.

But yeah, we'll be switching screens and should.
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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2013, 04:56:34 PM »
I want McGruds on McLemore, Bc I don't want McLemore to score and think he'll probably get some cheap fouls (Otho, reaching in after a dboard) if McGruds guards him.

But yeah, we'll be switching screens and should.

Agree. Lots of people will end up guarding Mc, but Rod needs to be the primary guy and I bet he wants to be that guy.

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2013, 05:35:31 PM »
Also, I don't care who guards black Ronald McD or Whitey, because they are both trash on offense and can only score on follow ups and from the ft line.

I'm mostly concerned with how we score on them.  Will/Tay/Shane/Nino need to knock down J's cause KU is going to sell out on McGruds. If JO or Gip fan pull effeminite t-rex (ETR) out of the lane it will help a lot.  The officials have unilaterally determined that ETR cannot foul and he's permitted to knock anyone in the paint to the floor and pick up blocks without even touching the ball.

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Re: Matchups (thinking outside the box)
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2013, 05:59:50 PM »
Shane on Mac? Love ya KK, but no. It has to be Gruds.