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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #800 on: August 26, 2013, 05:26:29 PM »
 everyone....just shut up....GO CATS

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #801 on: August 26, 2013, 07:37:09 PM »
So someone missed some practice this spring? 

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #802 on: August 26, 2013, 07:45:08 PM »
Lastly, I trust that your last two points/paragraphs were solely for those with super LFBIQ because I'm guessing even the NDSU fans get that much.
Well that's the trouble.  You're assuming that you have some idea of what Snyder's offense is going to look like this year when I don't think you have any idea what the hell you're talking about.

The reason you don't think I know what I'm talking about is because you don't understand the base principles of the offenses from which our offense is derived. 

Knowing what we've done historically with similar skill sets to that of Waters and Sams gives me a pretty good idea of which section of the playbook will get the most work...  Well that, and still having relationships within the program that still share general bits of information that give a reasonable insight.

How many times does LHCBS have to say that we run the same offense every year, we just  feature different aspects based on the skill sets of our skill position players before you non-athlete types start to get it?
Again, there's the disconnect.  Call it semantics or whatever.  I agree that we're going to utilize option reads in some capacity, even with Waters, but if you're going to call last year's offense "the same" as the one we saw under May then I think our conversation's about over.

So... If I understand you correctly, you don't think that all the stuff we did under May wasn't in the playbook although we didn't utilize much of it due to CK's skill set? 

I'll agree that  this conversation is over because it's becoming painfully obvious that I'm unable to raise your FBIQ and I can already feel you trying to drag mine down.

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #803 on: August 26, 2013, 07:59:07 PM »
Fair enough.  I'll concede this one.

In fact, just the other week, i was reminiscing about that acclaimed veer offense we ran with Chad May.  Yowza!  What a veer that was!  Can't believe how forgetful I was during our conversation.  May and Smith running all those options.  Boy.  What a powerful veer those two ran.  All day long.
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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #804 on: August 26, 2013, 08:02:11 PM »
Let's just talk about Sams skipping practice.

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #805 on: August 26, 2013, 08:03:57 PM »
Fair enough. 

In fact, just the other week, i was reminiscing about that acclaimed veer offense we ran with Chad May.  Yowza!  What a veer that was!

When we would run option with Chad May (and we did), from what base offense was that play born since you're so sure its roots weren't veer concepts?

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #806 on: August 26, 2013, 08:05:19 PM »
Let's just talk about Sams skipping practice.

I would like to hear more about this.

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #807 on: August 26, 2013, 08:05:57 PM »
"We're talking about practice... Practice!"

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #808 on: August 26, 2013, 08:06:43 PM »
will you guys please shut up?

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #809 on: August 26, 2013, 08:07:20 PM »
didn't know he skipped :(

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #810 on: August 26, 2013, 08:08:10 PM »
i wonder if sams skipped practice today after hearing that snyder named spiraldeliverysystem.com the starter


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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #811 on: August 26, 2013, 08:13:22 PM »
If I were a coach in a similar situation (two fairly close options with a slate of awful competition), I would alternate QB's every possession, and compare how they do in every situation (down and distance, field position, hash, etc.) Call every drive like it's a tied game. I'd already be doing this in practice, too. If one isn't clearly superior at every situation, play the QB that is superior in each particular situation.

This is obviously way oversimplified, but it is IMO the best approach to a 2QB scenario. I also like to think some version of this will take place (or is already).
I believe he will play Waters the first half and Sams the second.  And yes he will evaluate.
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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #812 on: August 26, 2013, 08:18:56 PM »
will you guys please shut up?
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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #813 on: August 26, 2013, 08:23:41 PM »
i wonder if sams skipped practice today after hearing that snyder named spiraldeliverysystem.com the starter
I bet he started skipping showers after he saw his python

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #814 on: August 26, 2013, 08:28:42 PM »
i wonder if sams skipped practice today after hearing that snyder named spiraldeliverysystem.com the starter
Probably broke his heart, the EMAW is great within that one.  :katpakhead:
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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #815 on: August 26, 2013, 08:30:06 PM »
i wonder if sams skipped practice today after hearing that snyder named spiraldeliverysystem.com the starter
I bet he started skipping showers after he saw his python
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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #816 on: August 26, 2013, 08:36:51 PM »
Did Sams really skip practice today or is that just a rumor started by some dork on the other board?

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #817 on: August 26, 2013, 08:42:38 PM »
There seems to be an established pattern of skipping.

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #818 on: August 26, 2013, 08:46:05 PM »
"skipping" by hurting his knee, maybe. maybe not.
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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #819 on: August 26, 2013, 08:48:58 PM »
There seems to be an established pattern of skipping.
He might not even be the back up

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #820 on: August 26, 2013, 09:13:45 PM »
if i can prove he skipped, and i think i can, then he needs to find a new home asap.  you don't put yourself above the family just 4 days before your family's first game.


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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #821 on: August 26, 2013, 09:44:27 PM »
if i can prove he skipped, and i think i can, then he needs to find a new home asap.  you don't put yourself above the family just 4 days before your family's first game.
Don't do this Clams, You'll just break our hearts.  :cry:
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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #822 on: August 26, 2013, 10:01:59 PM »
Why would Daniel stay home over winter break only to skip spring practices? I call BS.

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #823 on: August 26, 2013, 10:04:40 PM »
Why would Daniel stay home over winter break only to skip spring practices? I call BS.
Maybe he had warrants out on him back home

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Re: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters
« Reply #824 on: August 26, 2013, 10:07:25 PM »
I've only seen people talking about him missing practice. He was injured, so of course he missed practice. That's different than skipping practice. Was he not at practice today?