2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters

[OregonSmock]

worse running back though

i'll allow it.


but you're treading on some thing ice, mister.

ok!

In 04 we had Darren Sproles, Yamon Figurs, Jeremy Clary, Victor Mann, Jermaine Morreria etc.  If you have crappy QB play it doesn't really matter though.  Also I think we have a pretty good OL but NFL caliber? 

I don't think you understand my post.  I was trying to illustrate that the QBs of 2013 are literally nothing like the QBs of 2004 and that there is very little comparison unless you're a racist, in which case the comparison is that we have one white QB and one black QB.

Really too early to tell what our QB's are like this year in comparison to 2004. I suspect we are better off this year but you never know until they start playing games.  Injuries can play a factor too as they did in 2004.

We saw enough of Sams last year to know that he is much, much better than Meier, Webb, and Evridge.

Is he 100% right now with the MCL injury?  How will the injury affect his athleticism?  TIA.

[GoodForAnother]

worse running back though

i'll allow it.


but you're treading on some thing ice, mister.

ok!

In 04 we had Darren Sproles, Yamon Figurs, Jeremy Clary, Victor Mann, Jermaine Morreria etc.  If you have crappy QB play it doesn't really matter though.  Also I think we have a pretty good OL but NFL caliber? 

I don't think you understand my post.  I was trying to illustrate that the QBs of 2013 are literally nothing like the QBs of 2004 and that there is very little comparison unless you're a racist, in which case the comparison is that we have one white QB and one black QB.

Really too early to tell what our QB's are like this year in comparison to 2004. I suspect we are better off this year but you never know until they start playing games.  Injuries can play a factor too as they did in 2004.

We saw enough of Sams last year to know that he is much, much better than Meier, Webb, and Evridge.

Is he 100% right now with the MCL injury?  How will the injury affect his athleticism?  TIA.

this will affect sams athleticism in the same way that a meteor the size of a penny would affect the integrity of the sun

[yoman]

worse running back though

i'll allow it.


but you're treading on some thing ice, mister.

ok!

In 04 we had Darren Sproles, Yamon Figurs, Jeremy Clary, Victor Mann, Jermaine Morreria etc.  If you have crappy QB play it doesn't really matter though.  Also I think we have a pretty good OL but NFL caliber? 

I don't think you understand my post.  I was trying to illustrate that the QBs of 2013 are literally nothing like the QBs of 2004 and that there is very little comparison unless you're a racist, in which case the comparison is that we have one white QB and one black QB.

Really too early to tell what our QB's are like this year in comparison to 2004. I suspect we are better off this year but you never know until they start playing games.  Injuries can play a factor too as they did in 2004.

We saw enough of Sams last year to know that he is much, much better than Meier, Webb, and Evridge.

Is he 100% right now with the MCL injury?  How will the injury affect his athleticism?  TIA.

Whenever he gets over 80%, it won't.

Source: Have played with a partially torn MCL before.

[BackPayne]

Not practicing is killing #life. He's building up anger. When he is able to play the anger will be released. Enemies will die.  That is just the 1st play.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm just thankful that our first 3 games are glorified practices. It should really let #Life work out the kinks while he splits snaps with Waters.

[420seriouscat69]

Nice to see Beems praying that our QB situation is in question. Sometimes self talk can get you through the tough times. Good for him. Those therapy sessions are really working out.

[Dr Rick Daris]

worse running back though

i'll allow it.


but you're treading on some thing ice, mister.

ok!

In 04 we had Darren Sproles, Yamon Figurs, Jeremy Clary, Victor Mann, Jermaine Morreria etc.  If you have crappy QB play it doesn't really matter though.  Also I think we have a pretty good OL but NFL caliber? 

I don't think you understand my post.  I was trying to illustrate that the QBs of 2013 are literally nothing like the QBs of 2004 and that there is very little comparison unless you're a racist, in which case the comparison is that we have one white QB and one black QB.

Really too early to tell what our QB's are like this year in comparison to 2004. I suspect we are better off this year but you never know until they start playing games.  Injuries can play a factor too as they did in 2004.

We saw enough of Sams last year to know that he is much, much better than Meier, Webb, and Evridge.

Is he 100% right now with the MCL injury?  How will the injury affect his athleticism?  TIA.

I'm way less than 100% that it's even an mcl fwiw.

[420seriouscat69]

We know nothing. I bet it's minor. He'll probably take it easy till needed. It's like you guys have never seen Snyder run his quarterbacks into the ground before.

[kim carnes]

fanning, shut up.  i mean it, shut the eff up.

[420seriouscat69]

fanning, shut up.  i mean it, shut the eff up.

Sorry you look like a dumbass, dumbass.

[bucket]

Hearing partially torn MCL. Anyone else?

[BackPayne]

Not at all, Lukebucket.

[pvegs]

Not gonna hate on Bucket since his luking confirms the original rumor. Plus, the fact it's Sams related grants leeway.

[Tobias]

Not at all, Lukebucket.

fountains of luke

[star seed 7]

The Webb/Meier fiasco of 2004 is back!


 

#concernedsquawk

 

[Frankenklein]

 If worse comes to worst at least Sams will look damn good leading the Cats out with that block of wood.

[MakeItRain]

Waters plays the non-con, Mack prepares 100% for Waters, and then BOOM #life in your face Mack Cats win again! 

Sounds like 2010 with Klein and Coffman.

That win was the most mumped up win ever, even more than the win vs UT where we were severely out gained. I mean, who throws the ball 4 times and wins?

I don't think I've ever seen a team throw 4 times and lose, fwiw.

Your point is well taken, but Georgia Tech loses roughly half of their games.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=323360059

[Bqqkie Pimp]

Although the early reports were MCL, there are now solid (credible) grumblings that it was actually a minor tear of the meniscus which has already been cleaned up via a quick arthroscopic procedure.

Much better news from a time frame and knee stability standpoint.  HTH

 

[kstate4life]

Sorry my early grumblings of an MCL tear weren't quite accurate. That's what I heard from a reputable source, and I wanted to share it with my best of kstate friends. #gocats

[pvegs]

Although the early reports were MCL, there are now solid (credible) grumblings that it was actually a minor tear of the meniscus which has already been cleaned up via a quick arthroscopic procedure.

Much better news from a time frame and knee stability standpoint.  HTH

 

 

[jtksu]

Although the early reports were MCL, there are now solid (credible) grumblings that it was actually a minor tear of the meniscus which has already been cleaned up via a quick arthroscopic procedure.

Much better news from a time frame and knee stability standpoint.  HTH

 

 

Good.   We'll need them both. #sketiknee.

[wabash909]

  Welp, EMAWKL just broke the news on "The Other Site".

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Friend of mine read a rumor on that other K-State fan site stating that Sams had a torn MCL. He trusts the source on the site.

He also has a friend that works in the union that saw Sams on crutches today.

All in all these are just rumors, but wanted to pass it along.
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Don't think it's anything. That site has been known to start rumors just to see people react. I wouldn't worry about it right now.
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I'm not sure about the site, but I completely trust him about the crutches. However, he could have just rolled his ankle and wanted to stay off of it.
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And with this, your original post just lost all credibility.
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Re: Daniel Sams - Possible Injury   Reply
A friend of yours read a rumor on another message board - so you post it in the premium section of this message board?
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Meniscus surgery. He should be back for the NDSU game. A++ source.
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Doesn't matter. Waters is starter anyways
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Thanks for the info CatProwler.

I wasn't trying to start anything. The other site my friend was on was goEMAW. I just don't care for them too much so I avoided saying it.

Just heard what I had heard and figured other Cat fans would be interested, especially since its about a possible starting QB.

I'll try my hardest to keep any rumors to myself.
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No problem. The good news is the surgery was fairly minor and Daniel should be fine in 2-3 weeks. .
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Originally posted by CatProwler:
Meniscus surgery. He should be back for the NDSU game. A++ source.
Like I said, if he doesn't practice for next 14 days, Waters will be the starter for the NDSU game.
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Having to give advice on how you should share info so you don't get jumped on is hilarious. The only time any news ever gets broke on this site is when Rob comes in and posts from his national job (for some reason everyone thanks Wallace for a follow up story to news that Rob actually broke) or when a user shares info and gets jumped on. Here's a shocker, sometimes another site that has a lot of younger kids in Manhattan has more news about stuff going on in Manhattan (outside of Tubbys and So Long) rather than a site full of 50+ year old western KS school admins and people living in Texas. Also, lol at saying Waters was going to be the starter anyway. No one on this site has any clue what is going in with the team. If it takes 24+ hours for news to break that a potential starting QB got hurt in practice, then there are zero people on the board with an ounce of inside info.
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Thanks for the info CatProwler.

I wasn't trying to start anything. The other site my friend was on was goEMAW. I just don't care for them too much so I avoided saying it.

Just heard what I had heard and figured other Cat fans would be interested, especially since its about a possible starting QB.

I'll try my hardest to keep any rumors to myself.
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[Bqqkie Pimp]

Sorry my early grumblings of an MCL tear weren't quite accurate. That's what I heard from a reputable source, and I wanted to share it with my best of kstate friends. #gocats

No apologies necessary, brotha!  You brought good info in a timely manner. And to be fair (before doing an MRI) the assumption based on description, location and pain of the injury; MCL would be one of the early concerns.

Lets all just be thankful that it's only a minor meniscus tear that just needed a quick scope to clean up.

 

[Harry Doyle]

Meniscus tear is super easy to come back from. I tore mine last year and was back running within 2 weeks. But I'm a pansy. #life could be running today because he's a stud boss.

[steve dave]

if I don't get to see Sams taking snaps against NDSU I'm going to be pretty disappointed you guys.