Author Topic: 2013 QB Competition: Sams vs. Waters (Read 318473 times)

Tobias · « **Reply #1125 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:03:02 PM »

Quote from: GoodForAnother on September 07, 2013, 10:01:19 PM

sams is def more lovable. tapping that male cheerleader on the shoulder

pretty adorbs

CNS · « **Reply #1126 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:04:28 PM »

Quote from: chum1 on September 07, 2013, 09:56:33 PM

Quote from: steve dave on September 07, 2013, 09:28:05 PM
Waters is unconfident and I'm not confident in him so maybe he's unconfident for good reason.

Zero swagger

Not fair. I mean, who wouldn't look like an unconfident loser playing the same position as sams? Manziel is the only one I can think of.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #1127 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:05:49 PM »

Production (ie scoring touchdowns) matters.

wetwillie · « **Reply #1128 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:08:14 PM »

Landry Waters

star seed 7 · « **Reply #1129 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:09:00 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on September 07, 2013, 10:08:14 PM

Landry Waters

jake jones

(great name)

GoodForAnother · « **Reply #1130 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:09:32 PM »

speaking of great names, terrance broadway. my god.

michigancat · « **Reply #1131 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:14:54 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on September 07, 2013, 10:05:49 PM

Production (ie scoring touchdowns) matters.

yeah. The thing about Waters is that not only does he not score touchdowns, he really isn't that good at passing against subpar competition.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #1132 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:15:08 PM »

I never thought gE'rs would be dumb enough to not see the beauty in both QB's, but here we are.

kim carnes · « **Reply #1133 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:17:39 PM »

Quote from: WackySquawk08 on September 07, 2013, 10:15:08 PM

I never thought gE'rs would be dumb enough to see the beauty in both QB's, but here we are.

good post

CNS · « **Reply #1134 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:18:17 PM »

One dimensionality isnt a good thing. Predictably.

pvegs · « **Reply #1135 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:27:42 PM »

I like a quarterback who plays well while inspiring others to try harder. I also like it when he is well regarded by his peers/coaches and has major swag.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #1136 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:29:52 PM »

Quote from: WackySquawk08 on September 07, 2013, 10:15:08 PM

I never thought gE'rs would be dumb enough to see the beauty in both QB's, but here we are.

I think Waters does some really nice things throwing, but not enough drives are finishing with touchdowns.

chum1 · « **Reply #1137 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:30:31 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on September 07, 2013, 10:05:49 PM

Production (ie scoring touchdowns) matters.

Waters gets them in the red zone, Sams scores. Seems like it could be pretty effective.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #1138 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:31:12 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on September 07, 2013, 10:29:52 PM

Quote from: WackySquawk08 on September 07, 2013, 10:15:08 PM
I never thought gE'rs would be dumb enough to see the beauty in both QB's, but here we are.

I think Waters does some really nice things throwing, but not enough drives are finishing with touchdowns.

this is the biggest issue. if waters was scoring touchdowns, people would still love sams more, but i think most of us would be ok with waters starting.

eastcat · « **Reply #1139 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:33:11 PM »

Waters throws against pass coverage. Sams runs against pass coverage. ULL went to a 4-3 in the 4thQ with sams in and stopped him in the backfield. Waters came in and threw 14 yds for the 1st.

Jackstack99EMAW · « **Reply #1140 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:41:26 PM »

Quote from: chum1 on September 07, 2013, 10:30:31 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on September 07, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
Production (ie scoring touchdowns) matters.

Waters gets them in the red zone, Sams scores. Seems like it could be pretty effective.

Here's the thing, Sams moves the ball AND scores. Opens up running game which keeps D off the field...

Frankenklein · « **Reply #1141 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:48:22 PM »

I hope Snyder has some weird brain cancer thing so that he can fully take advantage of the "Two Headed Cat Quarterback Monster"

chum1 · « **Reply #1142 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:49:22 PM »

Quote from: Jackstack99EMAW on September 07, 2013, 10:41:26 PM

Quote from: chum1 on September 07, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on September 07, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
Production (ie scoring touchdowns) matters.

Waters gets them in the red zone, Sams scores. Seems like it could be pretty effective.
Here's the thing, Sams moves the ball AND scores. Opens up running game which keeps D off the field...

There might be some advantages to being able to throw the ball, too. Not sure.

Tobias · « **Reply #1143 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:49:53 PM »

fire Sean snyder

CNS · « **Reply #1144 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:50:40 PM »

Quote from: Tobias on September 07, 2013, 10:49:53 PM

fire Sean snyder

Thompson returns.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #1145 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:50:59 PM »

Quote from: chum1 on September 07, 2013, 10:49:22 PM

Quote from: Jackstack99EMAW on September 07, 2013, 10:41:26 PM
Quote from: chum1 on September 07, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on September 07, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
Production (ie scoring touchdowns) matters.

Waters gets them in the red zone, Sams scores. Seems like it could be pretty effective.
Here's the thing, Sams moves the ball AND scores. Opens up running game which keeps D off the field...

There might be some advantages to being able to throw the ball, too. Not sure.

are those advantages greater than scoring touchdowns?

OB_Won · « **Reply #1146 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:51:39 PM »

Quote from: PIPE on September 07, 2013, 09:25:49 PM

Folks, there is a reason Sams is not throwing the ball. Just cause he throws a nice spiral and can sling it doesn't matter if he can't hit the open WR's. (sounds like Roberson's So year)

red shirt freshman
235 yds, 32 carries, 3 TD, 7.3 yard per carry
6/8, 55 yds, 0 TD, 0 INT

West Virginia
3rd and 6
http://youtu.be/O2gDe96jl4k?t=46m2s

3rd and 7
http://youtu.be/O2gDe96jl4k?t=48m14s

Oklahoma State
3rd and 6, short field
http://youtu.be/JPDRHA0K83Y?t=28m45s

2nd and 10
http://youtu.be/JPDRHA0K83Y?t=36m35s

3rd and 6
http://youtu.be/JPDRHA0K83Y?t=37m21s

1st and 10
http://youtu.be/JPDRHA0K83Y?t=45m

2nd and 2
http://youtu.be/JPDRHA0K83Y?t=46m28s

2nd and 7, short field
http://youtu.be/JPDRHA0K83Y?t=49m54s

GoodForAnother · « **Reply #1147 on:** September 07, 2013, 10:52:45 PM »

Quote from: Tobias on September 07, 2013, 10:49:53 PM

fire Sean snyder

kickoff coverage sucks

Tobias · « **Reply #1148 on:** September 07, 2013, 11:01:09 PM »

this thread is about quarterback

GoodForAnother · « **Reply #1149 on:** September 07, 2013, 11:02:49 PM »

Quote from: Tobias on September 07, 2013, 11:01:09 PM

this thread is about quarterback

sorry, I'm a dumbass