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Re: Big 12 Efficiency and Four Factors 3-10-13 (regular season adv stats)
« Reply #200 on: March 10, 2013, 07:54:29 PM »
We were the best OR team in the Big 12 and ave 1.17 ppp over the final 12 games.   

Combine that with our great job with the TO% Dif .....

and yeah, that's the makeup of a CHAMPION!

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Re: Big 12 Efficiency and Four Factors 3-10-13 (regular season adv stats)
« Reply #201 on: March 10, 2013, 07:58:13 PM »
I don't get why our defense is so bad (relatively speaking).

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Re: Big 12 Efficiency and Four Factors 3-10-13 (regular season adv stats)
« Reply #202 on: March 10, 2013, 08:32:10 PM »
I don't get why our defense is so bad (relatively speaking).

We didn't give up a back door in the last half of big 12 play, I think you are nitpicking.
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Re: Big 12 Efficiency and Four Factors 3-10-13 (regular season adv stats)
« Reply #203 on: March 10, 2013, 09:12:26 PM »
I don't get why our defense is so bad (relatively speaking).

playing southie and gippy so much has something to do with it.
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Re: Big 12 Efficiency and Four Factors 3-10-13 (regular season adv stats)
« Reply #204 on: March 10, 2013, 10:39:48 PM »
I don't get why our defense is so bad (relatively speaking).

playing southie and gippy so much has something to do with it.

Yep.  Some matchups are hard for Shane (and Nino too) and then we have no shot blocking ability when Gip is in.  It is what it is. Just meens we have to continue to be really good on offense

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« Reply #205 on: March 11, 2013, 08:36:37 AM »
So what value, from a defensive PPP perspective, would playing JO provide?  Because that’s what I’m hearing the difference is.  And I don’t buy it, quite frankly.

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Re: Big 12 Efficiency and Four Factors 3-10-13 (regular season adv stats)
« Reply #206 on: March 11, 2013, 08:43:25 AM »
So what value, from a defensive PPP perspective, would playing JO provide?  Because that’s what I’m hearing the difference is.  And I don’t buy it, quite frankly.

A little, but not much.

Teams reflect what they work on most, given the talent they possess. Its obvious oscar put a lot of time into the offense/shooting and defense suffered a bit, but the key is the efficiency differential of +.104. in conference games. That's a pretty good number.

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« Reply #207 on: March 11, 2013, 08:56:13 AM »
I think JO makes a difference in how teams attack us, when he's in I don't think that teams attack the paint nearly as much/well and clearly dribble drive defense is weak.  I have no data to back that up though.

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Re: Big 12 Efficiency and Four Factors 3-10-13 (regular season adv stats)
« Reply #208 on: March 11, 2013, 08:59:17 AM »
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/jordan-henriguez-roberts/plus_minus?season=2012-2013
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I'm just hopeful his back doesn't give him problems in the postseason.

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Re: Big 12 Efficiency and Four Factors 3-10-13 (regular season adv stats)
« Reply #209 on: March 11, 2013, 09:34:25 AM »
So what value, from a defensive PPP perspective, would playing JO provide?  Because that’s what I’m hearing the difference is.  And I don’t buy it, quite frankly.

A little, but not much.

Teams reflect what they work on most, given the talent they possess. Its obvious oscar put a lot of time into the offense/shooting and defense suffered a bit, but the key is the efficiency differential of +.104. in conference games. That's a pretty good number.

I suppose the "point of emphasis" theory has some validity.  It certainly would provide a reason for the increase in the offensive production – but the decrease in defensive production, especially given the mentality that was engrained into those players, is kind of mind boggling.  And then when you factor in oscar’s coach speak about “hey, the offense sucked early on because we just focused on defense but then we focused on offense over the break and now our offense is super awesome”, I’m even further confused.  We would be more than a consistent, good team if we could or had improved our defense.  We would be a great team.

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Re: Big 12 Efficiency and Four Factors 3-10-13 (regular season adv stats)
« Reply #210 on: March 11, 2013, 09:39:58 AM »
True.

For comparos, the past 7 years (Big 12) DEF EFF...
1.02
1.01
1.05
0.97
1.00
0.97
1.02

OFF EFF:
1.06
1.11
1.02
1.06
1.04
1.02
1.12

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Re: Big 12 Efficiency and Four Factors 3-10-13 (regular season adv stats)
« Reply #211 on: March 11, 2013, 11:03:53 AM »
The end of another Big 12 regular season means the return of the Big 12 ten year EFF and 4 Factors chart. Color coded so you can (sort of) follow the trends for each team; each season is sorted by best to worst in both OFF and DEF for each category.









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