Piers Morgan

[kstatefreak42]

Has been getting his salad tossed al week. Arguing emotion over fact.

[DQ12]

Has been getting his salad tossed al week. Arguing emotion over fact.

if you're referring to that interview with that guy who wrote "bullies," then you're absolutely wrong. 

[eastcat]

Has been getting his salad tossed al week. Arguing emotion over fact.

if you're referring to that interview with that guy who wrote "bullies," then you're absolutely wrong.

You mean the one where Morgan was citing completely fraudulent "statistics"?

[DQ12]

Has been getting his salad tossed al week. Arguing emotion over fact.

if you're referring to that interview with that guy who wrote "bullies," then you're absolutely wrong.

You mean the one where Morgan was citing completely fraudulent "statistics"?

maybe? 

which statistics were fraudulent? 

[eastcat]

Has been getting his salad tossed al week. Arguing emotion over fact.

if you're referring to that interview with that guy who wrote "bullies," then you're absolutely wrong.

You mean the one where Morgan was citing completely fraudulent "statistics"?

maybe? 

which statistics were fraudulent?

The U.K. has a higher violent crime rate than South Africa. We should totally follow their lead.

[Paul Moscow]

Has been getting his salad tossed al week. Arguing emotion over fact.

if you're referring to that interview with that guy who wrote "bullies," then you're absolutely wrong.

You mean the one where Morgan was citing completely fraudulent "statistics"?

maybe? 

which statistics were fraudulent?

The U.K. has a higher violent crime rate than South Africa. We should totally follow their lead.

  Sweet news program there, eastcat.

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

People wanting to deport him for his opinion are rough ridin' stupid

[eastcat]

Has been getting his salad tossed al week. Arguing emotion over fact.

if you're referring to that interview with that guy who wrote "bullies," then you're absolutely wrong.

You mean the one where Morgan was citing completely fraudulent "statistics"?

maybe? 

which statistics were fraudulent?

The U.K. has a higher violent crime rate than South Africa. We should totally follow their lead.

  Sweet news program there, eastcat.

Thanks man, made it myself.

[Shacks]

People wanting to deport him for his opinion are rough ridin' stupid

Agreed.  I'm very pro-gun, but I'm also pro-Constitution and anti-logical fallacy.  The First Amendment gives Piers Morgan the right to bitch about the Second Amendment.  A ton of pissed off overemotional rednecks conveniently overlooked the "freedom of speech" and "freedom of the press" portion of the Constitution they claim to love so dearly.

That being said, Morgan is ignoring facts in order to argue his agenda.  He's also an bad person - if I, as an American, hosted a news show in another country, I wouldn't argue that their civil rights should be taken away and that their most treasured legal document is wrong.

[steve dave]

I'm also pro-Constitution

will you still be when we change it again or just pro-this version?

[ChiComCat]

What does 2nd highest crime rate in the EU have to do with the US or guns?  Why does the US side not state a similar stat instead of completely unrelated? That graphic is a joke (on its own, maybe it makes sense in context with what Piers said)

[kim carnes]

america looks like a bunch of pussies trying to ban guns just because a couple of mass shootings.

[Shacks]

I'm also pro-Constitution

will you still be when we change it again or just pro-this version?

Depends on the change, although probably yes.  I don't see the US ever doing something as dumb as adding an amendment for prohibition again, or repealing something like the 13th Amendment.

[DQ12]

I'm so pro constitution and 2nd amendment that i think every citizen in the US should be allowed, maybe even required, to own and use a musket just in case we all have to form a people's army to defend ourselves against an external threat.

[Cartierfor3]

What does 2nd highest crime rate in the EU have to do with the US or guns?  Why does the US side not state a similar stat instead of completely unrelated? That graphic is a joke (on its own, maybe it makes sense in context with what Piers said)

It is intended to show that banning guns does not equal an end to crime.  But you knew that.

[kim carnes]

I'm so pro constitution and 2nd amendment that i think every citizen in the US should be allowed, maybe even required, to own and use a musket just in case we all have to form a people's army to defend ourselves against an external threat.

That is a good point, dlew.  People are conveniently forgetting about aliens and the threat they pose to the human race.

[ChiComCat]

What does 2nd highest crime rate in the EU have to do with the US or guns?  Why does the US side not state a similar stat instead of completely unrelated? That graphic is a joke (on its own, maybe it makes sense in context with what Piers said)

It is intended to show that banning guns does not equal an end to crime.  But you knew that.

Anybody who thinks banning guns ends crime is stupid.  My point is that it is trying to make a comparison between countries using information that does not correlate from one country to the other. 

Also, if you pick the right statistic you can say what you want.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/schoo-shooting-how-do-u-s-gun-homicides-compare-with-the-rest-of-the-world/

[kim carnes]

What does 2nd highest crime rate in the EU have to do with the US or guns?  Why does the US side not state a similar stat instead of completely unrelated? That graphic is a joke (on its own, maybe it makes sense in context with what Piers said)

It is intended to show that banning guns does not equal an end to crime.  But you knew that.

Anybody who thinks banning guns ends crime is stupid.  My point is that it is trying to make a comparison between countries using information that does not correlate from one country to the other. 

Also, if you pick the right statistic you can say what you want.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/schoo-shooting-how-do-u-s-gun-homicides-compare-with-the-rest-of-the-world/

who said that banning guns ends crime?  are you stupid?  why are you talking about something no one said?

[ChiComCat]

What does 2nd highest crime rate in the EU have to do with the US or guns?  Why does the US side not state a similar stat instead of completely unrelated? That graphic is a joke (on its own, maybe it makes sense in context with what Piers said)

It is intended to show that banning guns does not equal an end to crime.  But you knew that.

Anybody who thinks banning guns ends crime is stupid.  My point is that it is trying to make a comparison between countries using information that does not correlate from one country to the other. 

Also, if you pick the right statistic you can say what you want.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/schoo-shooting-how-do-u-s-gun-homicides-compare-with-the-rest-of-the-world/

who said that banning guns ends crime?  are you stupid?  why are you talking about something no one said?

Can you read the post that I quoted saying that it was meant to show that banning guns does not equal an end to crime?  I was saying anyone that argued otherwise is stupid.  Now that I drew that completely logical link and explicitly wrote it out for you, can you follow the logic or is your capacity beneath that of a 6 year old?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I'm so pro constitution and 2nd amendment that i think every citizen in the US should be allowed, maybe even required, to own and use a musket just in case we all have to form a people's army to defend ourselves against an external threat.

The musket was the AR-15 of it's day.

[p1k3]

What does 2nd highest crime rate in the EU have to do with the US or guns?  Why does the US side not state a similar stat instead of completely unrelated? That graphic is a joke (on its own, maybe it makes sense in context with what Piers said)

It is intended to show that banning guns does not equal an end to crime.  But you knew that.

Anybody who thinks banning guns ends crime is stupid.  My point is that it is trying to make a comparison between countries using information that does not correlate from one country to the other. 

Also, if you pick the right statistic you can say what you want.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/schoo-shooting-how-do-u-s-gun-homicides-compare-with-the-rest-of-the-world/

who said that banning guns ends crime?  are you stupid?  why are you talking about something no one said?

because the the left wing losers in la la land think that gun confiscation will lead to pure peaceful Barry B utopia.

[DQ12]

because the the left wing losers in la la land think that gun confiscation will lead to pure peaceful Barry B utopia.

nobody actually thinks that and framing the argument as if people do just muddies the entire conversation up more than it already is

[bones129]

Besides this guy, I've never known anyone named "Piers."

[jtksu]

I'm so pro constitution and 2nd amendment that i think every citizen in the US should be allowed, maybe even required, to own and use a musket just in case we all have to form a people's army to defend ourselves against an external threat.

The musket was the AR-15 of it's day.

Very valid point.   Unless you're an idiot and just assume no harm will ever come to US citizens as long as we just give up our arms.

[DQ12]

I'm so pro constitution and 2nd amendment that i think every citizen in the US should be allowed, maybe even required, to own and use a musket just in case we all have to form a people's army to defend ourselves against an external threat.

The musket was the AR-15 of it's day.

Very valid point.   Unless you're an idiot and just assume no harm will ever come to US citizens as long as we just give up our arms.

Now what's the modern day equivalent to "a well regulated militia"?