Two things we need more of after tonight...

[Panjandrum]

1) Speed

2) A more capable passing QB

For next year, I'm not sure about #1, but I figure either Sams or Waters will be an upgrade on #2.

[Pendergast]

Sams is both.

[_33]

I honestly think our offense will be better next year. I've been known to honestly believe a lot of things that turned out to be wrong, but I think I'm right on this one.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think we will miss Klein's ability to move the chains without taking huge risks. Sams will be more fun to watch, but Klein was a very good QB, and it will take Sams 2-3 years to reach that level, if he ever does. We should all expect some growing pains next year.

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

Collin Klein was good because he was smart and didn't turn the ball over very much. When we were ahead in a game he was great, but when we were behind he was god awful. I want a quarterback like Manziel, Bridgewater, Mariotta etc. I think Sams and Waters will be much better at making big plays and getting us back into games.

[_33]

I think we will miss Klein's ability to move the chains without taking huge risks. Sams will be more fun to watch, but Klein was a very good QB, and it will take Sams 2-3 years to reach that level, if he ever does. We should all expect some growing pains next year.

If you say 'growing pains' just one more time I'm gonna kick your ass.

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

I think we will miss Klein's ability to move the chains without taking huge risks. Sams will be more fun to watch, but Klein was a very good QB, and it will take Sams 2-3 years to reach that level, if he ever does. We should all expect some growing pains next year.

If you say 'growing pains' just one more time I'm gonna kick your ass.

[Panjandrum]

I honestly think our offense will be better next year. I've been known to honestly believe a lot of things that turned out to be wrong, but I think I'm right on this one.

I'm with you.

[Chico]

[catzacker]

yeah, Collin's ability to audible into the QB draw where he runs into the backs of our O-lineman on 3rd or 2nd and short will be missed. 

[Panjandrum]

I think we will miss Klein's ability to move the chains without taking huge risks. Sams will be more fun to watch, but Klein was a very good QB, and it will take Sams 2-3 years to reach that level, if he ever does. We should all expect some growing pains next year.

I think Waters starts next year, but will have a short leash.

[Panjandrum]

In regards to my original post, my point was that I don't care how many stars a kid has.  I want them to recruit guys that are fast as crap and make them into football players.

[kso_FAN]

I think we will miss Klein's ability to move the chains without taking huge risks. Sams will be more fun to watch, but Klein was a very good QB, and it will take Sams 2-3 years to reach that level, if he ever does. We should all expect some growing pains next year.

I think Waters starts next year, but will have a short leash.

2001 all over?

[_33]

Collin was a decent QB but not what we built him up to be. That win over Geno and WVU really set the expectations for him unrealistically high.

[felix rex]

I'm binging but I'm pretty sure klein held us back all season and ruined things for a beautiful Chris Harper. I may never forgive him for the latter.

[Panjandrum]

I think we will miss Klein's ability to move the chains without taking huge risks. Sams will be more fun to watch, but Klein was a very good QB, and it will take Sams 2-3 years to reach that level, if he ever does. We should all expect some growing pains next year.

I think Waters starts next year, but will have a short leash.

2001 all over?

It's lazy to say that for a ton of reasons, but I think it's what Snyder will ultimately do.

But I think Waters may be better than Dunn.  I don't know.  I'm just going off of gut feel and watching a ton of video on YouTube.

But I think Sams has a higher ceiling than Ell did, so there's that.  Snyder is going to push the hell out of him.

[michigancat]

Speed wasn't as big a problem as getting out schemed

[Fldermaus]

1) Zeal

2) Beards

[kim carnes]

anyone campaigning for waters over sams is a rough ridin' racist, no lie.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Collin Klein was good because he was smart and didn't turn the ball over very much. When we were ahead in a game he was great, but when we were behind he was god awful. I want a quarterback like Manziel, Bridgewater, Mariotta etc. I think Sams and Waters will be much better at making big plays and getting us back into games.

To Klein's credit, he was almost never behind.

[catzacker]

I think we will miss Klein's ability to move the chains without taking huge risks. Sams will be more fun to watch, but Klein was a very good QB, and it will take Sams 2-3 years to reach that level, if he ever does. We should all expect some growing pains next year.

I think Waters starts next year, but will have a short leash.

then I'll say we need a third thing which is less people that think Waters will start next year.

[kso_FAN]

I think we will miss Klein's ability to move the chains without taking huge risks. Sams will be more fun to watch, but Klein was a very good QB, and it will take Sams 2-3 years to reach that level, if he ever does. We should all expect some growing pains next year.

I think Waters starts next year, but will have a short leash.

2001 all over?

It's lazy to say that for a ton of reasons, but I think it's what Snyder will ultimately do.

But I think Waters may be better than Dunn.  I don't know.  I'm just going off of gut feel and watching a ton of video on YouTube.

But I think Sams has a higher ceiling than Ell did, so there's that.  Snyder is going to push the hell out of him.

Yeah, it was lazy to say that.

[PowercatPat]

1) Speed

2) A more capable passing QB

For next year, I'm not sure about #1, but I figure either Sams or Waters will be an upgrade on #2.

We need more 's imo.

[Panjandrum]

I think we will miss Klein's ability to move the chains without taking huge risks. Sams will be more fun to watch, but Klein was a very good QB, and it will take Sams 2-3 years to reach that level, if he ever does. We should all expect some growing pains next year.

I think Waters starts next year, but will have a short leash.

2001 all over?

It's lazy to say that for a ton of reasons, but I think it's what Snyder will ultimately do.

But I think Waters may be better than Dunn.  I don't know.  I'm just going off of gut feel and watching a ton of video on YouTube.

But I think Sams has a higher ceiling than Ell did, so there's that.  Snyder is going to push the hell out of him.

Yeah, it was lazy to say that.

I honestly think he'll start Waters in the non-con to push Sams.  Seems like something Bill would do.

[felix rex]

Beards