Coaching Search / Succession Plan Thread

[MadCat]

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/2012/12/report-kansas-state-co-offensive-coordinator-dana-dimel-wants-to-be-bill-snyders-successor-as-wildcats-head-coach.html/

Dimel makes a good point about his experiences...Sean hasn't had to cut his teeth in the "real world".

[Dugout DickStone]

Do we really need to do this crap again today?  JFC, it has been hashed.

Let's talk about LSOC partying in people's faces tonight.

[MadCat]

Do we really need to do this crap again today?  JFC, it has been hashed.

Let's talk about LSOC partying in people's faces tonight.

I hope you party all over their faces. 

[michigancat]

Sean Snyder would be just as likely to succeed as anyone else KSU could hire. It's a rough ridin' crapshoot at our level, dudes.

NOBODY HAVE ANY OPINIONS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!

No one has presented an argument to support the opinion that Sean would be worse than Dimel or anyone else KSU could realistically hire. The best I've gotten is "he wouldn't be able to hire a staff". Which is pretty goddam vague and again, an opinion.

[Dugout DickStone]

Do we really need to do this crap again today?  JFC, it has been hashed.

Let's talk about LSOC partying in people's faces tonight.

I hope you party all over their faces. 

 

[steve dave]

Sean Snyder would be just as likely to succeed as anyone else KSU could hire. It's a rough ridin' crapshoot at our level, dudes.

NOBODY HAVE ANY OPINIONS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!

No one has presented an argument to support the opinion that Sean would be worse than Dimel or anyone else KSU could realistically hire. The best I've gotten is "he wouldn't be able to hire a staff". Which is pretty goddam vague and again, an opinion.

who cares, it's a crapshoot at our level dude

[Kat Kid]

Sean Snyder would be just as likely to succeed as anyone else KSU could hire. It's a rough ridin' crapshoot at our level, dudes.

NOBODY HAVE ANY OPINIONS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!

No one has presented an argument to support the opinion that Sean would be worse than Dimel or anyone else KSU could realistically hire. The best I've gotten is "he wouldn't be able to hire a staff". Which is pretty goddam vague and again, an opinion.

who cares, it's a crapshoot at our level dude

then let's get a live shooter boys!

[michigancat]

Sean Snyder would be just as likely to succeed as anyone else KSU could hire. It's a rough ridin' crapshoot at our level, dudes.

NOBODY HAVE ANY OPINIONS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!

No one has presented an argument to support the opinion that Sean would be worse than Dimel or anyone else KSU could realistically hire. The best I've gotten is "he wouldn't be able to hire a staff". Which is pretty goddam vague and again, an opinion.

who cares, it's a crapshoot at our level dude

I'm willing to listen to arguments that go beyond "DEEERRRRRRRR. SEAN BAAAAADDDD. DIMEL GOOD".

Sway me, or something.

[Cire]

I will say, from all that's said about the "coaching fraternity" I would think it might be difficult for a guy like sean to assemble a staff.  I would think he not be taken seriously a little because he's basically riding coat tails.

whoever it is has got to get athletes, motivate them, and be able to put together successful game plans.

[sys]

michigan is right.  not wanting s.synd just because it's nepotistic is stupid and possibly racist.

[CNS]

Cire's post about the staff is enough of a reason to be racist against Sean.

[Dr Rick Daris]

i worry about sean because he's never been anywhere but kstate and has never worked for anyone other than his dad. that doesn't exactly scream out that he has aspirations and is driven to be incredibly successful in his endeavors as a head coach at a major university. i worry about his connections and ability to recruit partly because of previously mentioned stuff but also because he has only been a "coach" for two years. how many other coaches does he know? how many clinics has he gone to? how has he networked? i worry that i can't remember a coach ever being promoted from special teams coach to head coach. ever. i worry that i've never heard of a father taking over for a son and being successful. i worry that people that know sean or have worked around him do not scream about how great he is and would be at the job. i'm worried that he would be easy to negative recruit against. i worry that it would be difficult for kstate to fire him if all signs pointed to the fact that he needed to be. he played at kstate. his name is on the stadium. his dad is LHC LHC Bill Snyder. he's very entrenched as a townie at this point in his life. so while other coaches might be very likely to fail, it would be easy to get rid of them. much harder with sean.

[Bloodfart]

Don't worry be happy. 

[OK_Cat]

name a father-son succession plan in any sport that has worked.

you can't.

[Panjandrum]

i worry about sean because he's never been anywhere but kstate and has never worked for anyone other than his dad. that doesn't exactly scream out that he has aspirations and is driven to be incredibly successful in his endeavors as a head coach at a major university. i worry about his connections and ability to recruit partly because of previously mentioned stuff but also because he has only been a "coach" for two years. how many other coaches does he know? how many clinics has he gone to? how has he networked? i worry that i can't remember a coach ever being promoted from special teams coach to head coach. ever. i worry that i've never heard of a father taking over for a son and being successful. i worry that people that know sean or have worked around him do not scream about how great he is and would be at the job. i'm worried that he would be easy to negative recruit against. i worry that it would be difficult for kstate to fire him if all signs pointed to the fact that he needed to be. he played at kstate. his name is on the stadium. his dad is LHC LHC Bill Snyder. he's very entrenched as a townie at this point in his life.

You may as well just etch this in stone because that pretty much covers all of it.

[Stupid Fitz]

Crapshoot.  and the fact that we are deciding between Bill's son and Dana Dimel as our next coach is painfully hilarious.  I take that back, someone mentioned Ron Zook.  I pick him 

[mocat]

Dimel is very good looking. Goes pretty far in the mocat person rating scale (look at my avatar).

[steve dave]

i worry about sean because he's never been anywhere but kstate and has never worked for anyone other than his dad. that doesn't exactly scream out that he has aspirations and is driven to be incredibly successful in his endeavors as a head coach at a major university. i worry about his connections and ability to recruit partly because of previously mentioned stuff but also because he has only been a "coach" for two years. how many other coaches does he know? how many clinics has he gone to? how has he networked? i worry that i can't remember a coach ever being promoted from special teams coach to head coach. ever. i worry that i've never heard of a father taking over for a son and being successful. i worry that people that know sean or have worked around him do not scream about how great he is and would be at the job. i'm worried that he would be easy to negative recruit against. i worry that it would be difficult for kstate to fire him if all signs pointed to the fact that he needed to be. he played at kstate. his name is on the stadium. his dad is LHC Bill Snyder. he's very entrenched as a townie at this point in his life.

Great summary. I like Dimel because people ITK say he has basically taken the reigns from Bill on offense/play calling and we've had a couple pretty great years back to back on that side of the ball. I think his play calling fits the parts we have on offense. Whether you think it is a positive or a negative he would keep the staff together for the most part (not you Mo), I see this as a positive because we have something good going right now and I like some of our assistants (first time I've been able to say that under Bill in a long time). He has experience as a HC at multiple places (one good, one sucky). He isn't super old (not really a positive but not a negative).

[sys]

name a father-son succession plan in any sport that has worked.

you can't.

there are several that were fine in bball.

[sys]

dimel is a proven failure as a head coach.  snyder has never failed at anything he's tried to accomplish.

[OK_Cat]

name a father-son succession plan in any sport that has worked.

you can't.

there are several that were fine in bball.

link?

[Kat Kid]

name a father-son succession plan in any sport that has worked.

you can't.

there are several that were fine in bball.

link?

I'm thinking Georgetown would qualify.

[HeinBallz]

With either Dimel or Sean - At least DSams would likely be utilized to his potential as a QB.  That's gotta be a positive for either guy... right?

[OK_Cat]

name a father-son succession plan in any sport that has worked.

you can't.

there are several that were fine in bball.

link?

I'm thinking Georgetown would qualify.

possibly.

in this region, my first thoughts were the suttons and knights.  both were awful ideas.

[chum1]

name a father-son succession plan in any sport that has worked.

you can't.

there are several that were fine in bball.

link?

He's (always) thinking about the Drews.