Author Topic: Are we winning the fight? (Read 3043 times)

Winters · « **on:** December 20, 2012, 12:45:37 PM »

Yeah, it's early but what do you think?

OK_Cat · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2012, 12:46:34 PM »

no

woof, the stuff you're RT'ing on twitter is sad.

CNS · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2012, 12:47:45 PM »

Second the no.

Really want to give up and "oh well" it, but not there yet.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2012, 12:49:46 PM »

i'm shocked at the amount of younger tucks.

i assumed there was an age divide between goemawtards and gopowertards, but they seem to have all ages over there.

CNS · « **Reply #4 on:** December 20, 2012, 12:53:42 PM »

Quote from: OK Cat on December 20, 2012, 12:49:46 PM

i'm shocked at the amount of younger tucks.

i assumed there was an age divide between goemawtards and gopowertards, but they seem to have all ages over there.

When you don't know how to rationally analyze something you go with what you have had drilled into you. I would guess that young tucks are second gen KStaters at min.

0.42 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 20, 2012, 12:55:46 PM »

Quote from: OK Cat on December 20, 2012, 12:49:46 PM

i'm shocked at the amount of younger tucks.

i assumed there was an age divide between goemawtards and gopowertards, but they seem to have all ages over there.

From personal experience I'd have to estimate the tuck to gE ratio in the student section in 2010 and 2011 is not favorable to us by any means.

Winters · « **Reply #6 on:** December 20, 2012, 01:01:23 PM »

I think we're further than I thought we'd be at.

Winters · « **Reply #7 on:** December 20, 2012, 01:09:02 PM »

Quote from: OK Cat on December 20, 2012, 12:49:46 PM

i'm shocked at the amount of younger tucks.

i assumed there was an age divide between goemawtards and gopowertards, but they seem to have all ages over there.

I'd say it is pretty 50/50 when it comes to students. Which is pretty awful.

Asteriskhead · « **Reply #8 on:** December 20, 2012, 01:36:55 PM »

50/50 is generous, too. I'd guess that it's closer to 60/40 tuck to gE.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #9 on:** December 20, 2012, 01:40:54 PM »

As long as John Currie is athletic director, oscar is not going to be fired until at least 2015. Other than a campaign to get rid of Currie, there just is not a fight worth fighting.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #10 on:** December 20, 2012, 01:49:32 PM »

Games like Gonzaga are the only things turning fans right now.

At this point Twitter banter isn't going to accomplish much at all. I know lots of people that most here would call tucks that are very skeptical of oscar. In fact, I'm not sure I've talked to any person that is blindly supporting him like you see from some (which are a vast minority) at gp or kstatefans. That said, most are patient and will give him a chance, but like me will want him gone if they continue to see bad basketball.

JMHO, some smear campaign against him right now is probably counter productive.

slobber · « **Reply #11 on:** December 20, 2012, 02:18:45 PM »

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Winters, the fate of the KSU MBB Program is in your hands.

0.42 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2012, 03:13:02 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on December 20, 2012, 01:49:32 PM

Games like Gonzaga are the only things turning fans right now.

At this point Twitter banter isn't going to accomplish much at all. I know lots of people that most here would call tucks that are very skeptical of oscar. In fact, I'm not sure I've talked to any person that is blindly supporting him like you see from some (which are a vast minority) at gp or kstatefans. That said, most are patient and will give him a chance, but like me will want him gone if they continue to see bad basketball.

JMHO, some smear campaign against him right now is probably counter productive.

Yeah, it's very important that any movement against him is based on facts and doesn't focus on his personality too much. But I think a lot of people here know that.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #13 on:** December 20, 2012, 03:19:11 PM »

i feel like having oscar block me (and trim/winters/others) on twitter before conference play is a win.

Trim · « **Reply #14 on:** December 20, 2012, 08:27:28 PM »

Quote from: OK Cat on December 20, 2012, 12:49:46 PM

i'm shocked at the amount of younger tucks.

i assumed there was an age divide between goemawtards and gopowertards, but they seem to have all ages over there.

We have all ages too.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #15 on:** December 20, 2012, 09:21:10 PM »

when we start getting dusted in confy. we will be winning then

Skipper44 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 20, 2012, 10:23:36 PM »

When we lose to Lonnie and KU at home in back to back games and then roll over at ISU victory will be in hand.

ELL3 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 20, 2012, 10:41:32 PM »

Reminds me of the Woolbury years, people did not care until football team struggled
As long as Weber smiles, acts goofy, does not make noise he will be allowed to bury our program
On this day in 2010 we were in the top 10

MakeItRain · « **Reply #18 on:** December 20, 2012, 11:07:59 PM »

Quote from: ELL3 on December 20, 2012, 10:41:32 PM

Reminds me of the Woolbury years, people did not care until football team struggled
As long as Weber smiles, acts goofy, does not make noise he will be allowed to bury our program
On this day in 2010 we were in the top 10

Completely and totally different. Wooly got a long rope because we had forgot how to win. Asbury didn't get a long leash BTW, his situation was totally different than Wooly's. We are coming off the best 5 year stretch in the last 60 years, he won't be given the same rope that Wooly did, not even close, its dumb to think otherwise. This talking point is stupid and needs to die, you aren't the first to say it nor will be the last.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 21, 2012, 12:08:56 AM »

i get lots of "likes" on facebook when i post about firing currie and weber and i have no gE's on my facebook. i think we are on the way to winning the war.

CNS · « **Reply #20 on:** December 21, 2012, 08:37:22 AM »

It must be exhausting bbs'n, using twitter, AND having a fb page. Just can't do it.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #21 on:** December 21, 2012, 08:51:51 AM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on December 20, 2012, 11:07:59 PM

Completely and totally different. Wooly got a long rope because we had forgot how to win. Asbury didn't get a long leash BTW, his situation was totally different than Wooly's. We are coming off the best 5 year stretch in the last 60 years, he won't be given the same rope that Wooly did, not even close, its dumb to think otherwise. This talking point is stupid and needs to die, you aren't the first to say it nor will be the last.

Yes, and soon. Its a completely reactionary talking point.

catzacker · « **Reply #22 on:** December 21, 2012, 10:06:10 AM »

Define “long rope”? I think the analogy is Altman, not Wooly. But imo, 4 years is too long for oscar. After 3 years you’re going to have to approach contact extension talks - or whether or not there are even contract extension talks to be had. You should know after 3 years what you have.

Currie will give him 4 regardless, imo. We could go to the NIT for 3 straight years and he’d give him a 4th. I don’t think people realize how quickly expectations can/will plummet. There’s already a “oscar didn’t get left with very good ‘basketball’ players” sentiment which will resonate with most of our fan base – even the ones that forked over the money. That sentiment fits in well with the “Hoosiers” type picture that the old (re: money) donors have of basketball.

bigwillie20 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 21, 2012, 10:11:10 AM »

Quote from: catzacker on December 21, 2012, 10:06:10 AM

I don’t think people realize how quickly expectations can/will plummet.

They nosedived on March 31st

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #24 on:** December 21, 2012, 10:11:29 AM »

I don't know if it's more depressing that Currie would give oscar 4 years or that Currie will probably still be at K-State 4 years from now.