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Fire oscar
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2012, 12:40:44 AM »
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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2012, 12:42:16 AM »
Thats what 8 years of WEBERBALL  does to you................

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« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2012, 12:43:35 AM »
Realistically, is there any performance level that would lead to oscar being fired after year 1?

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2012, 12:48:29 AM »
Realistically, is there any performance level that would lead to oscar being fired after year 1?

0-18 in phillips 66?

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2012, 12:49:27 AM »
would 4-14 with only home wins over TCU, Tech, WVU, and UT do the trick?

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2012, 12:49:40 AM »
If the kind of basketball you saw tonight got him hired, why would it get him fired?  Didn't Currie watch any Illinois games last year?

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2012, 12:51:17 AM »
I just need 5 years to straighten this thing out, guys. I will have us on the bubble in no time.  -Bubbles
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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2012, 12:51:40 AM »
Didn't Currie watch any Illinois games last year?

I would bet $1,000 the answer to that question is, "No."

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2012, 12:53:27 AM »
If the kind of basketball you saw tonight got him hired, why would it get him fired?

thanks.  some of our posters needed to have their hopes crushed.
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« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2012, 12:57:55 AM »
Before tonight, hope seemed like one possible path.

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2012, 12:59:17 AM »
Realistically, is there any performance level that would lead to oscar being fired after year 1?

0-18 in phillips 66?

Hopefully

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2012, 01:04:02 AM »
If the kind of basketball you saw tonight got him hired, why would it get him fired?

thanks.  some of our posters needed to have their hopes crushed.

Really? Having our hopes crushed is what we "need" right now? They were crushed back in whenever-the-hell-Weber-was-hired. Now we're just trying to manufacture some.

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2012, 01:06:21 AM »
Really? Having our hopes crushed is what we "need" right now? They were crushed back in whenever-the-hell-Weber-was-hired. Now we're just trying to manufacture some.

you will be happier without hope.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2012, 01:08:12 AM »
Really? Having our hopes crushed is what we "need" right now? They were crushed back in whenever-the-hell-Weber-was-hired. Now we're just trying to manufacture some.

you will be happier without hope.

I can tell you from personal experience that's not the case.

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2012, 01:41:46 AM »
Really? Having our hopes crushed is what we "need" right now? They were crushed back in whenever-the-hell-Weber-was-hired. Now we're just trying to manufacture some.

you will be happier without hope.

I can tell you from personal experience that's not the case.

It's certainly comforting me right now.  Like a warm blanket against the cold night.

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« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2012, 01:46:30 AM »
Really? Having our hopes crushed is what we "need" right now? They were crushed back in whenever-the-hell-Weber-was-hired. Now we're just trying to manufacture some.

you will be happier without hope.

I can tell you from personal experience that's not the case.

It's certainly comforting me right now.  Like a warm blanket against the cold night.

Again, I went down that road once. It's promising right up until you find out it's a dead end.

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2012, 02:01:16 AM »
what would firing him cost us?  Whats the buyout? 

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2012, 02:02:53 AM »
what would firing him cost us?  Whats the buyout?
It's costing Illinois over 3 million...Think about that for a second. Illinois is paying Weber over 3 million to NOT coach the team lol.

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2012, 02:05:22 AM »
Last year my shtick was too be all doom and gloom about what we had ahead.  This year...well eff, at least last year I knew we had a chance to pull some crap out.  I think we all knew this was a possibility and it's unfolding right in front of us.  I like to care, I love to care, I love this place...but eff you Currie and eff you oscar

(I still love the posters here)

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2012, 02:12:22 AM »
what would firing him cost us?  Whats the buyout?
It's costing Illinois over 3 million...Think about that for a second. Illinois is paying Weber over 3 million to NOT coach the team lol.

Don't buyouts usually only extend until they have found a new job?  Or was the buyout of thinking of a unique situation? (Also, I can't remember which buyout I'm thinking of.)

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2012, 02:20:30 AM »
what would firing him cost us?  Whats the buyout?
It's costing Illinois over 3 million...Think about that for a second. Illinois is paying Weber over 3 million to NOT coach the team lol.

Don't buyouts usually only extend until they have found a new job?  Or was the buyout of thinking of a unique situation? (Also, I can't remember which buyout I'm thinking of.)

must not have been in his contract that he wouldn't get paid if he got hired immediately after getting fired.

No matter what oscar is getting a crap ton of money to be terrible at coaching basketball. 

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2012, 02:21:12 AM »
what would firing him cost us?  Whats the buyout?
It's costing Illinois over 3 million...Think about that for a second. Illinois is paying Weber over 3 million to NOT coach the team lol.

Don't buyouts usually only extend until they have found a new job?  Or was the buyout of thinking of a unique situation? (Also, I can't remember which buyout I'm thinking of.)
Illinois has to pay Weber 1.2 mil for the next 3 years I believe. So he is currently one of the highest paid coaches in basketball, with our money and your's combined, for the next few years..Our last AD was a rough ridin' idiot..Seems like he and Currie would be good buddies.

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2012, 02:23:20 AM »
what would firing him cost us?  Whats the buyout?
It's costing Illinois over 3 million...Think about that for a second. Illinois is paying Weber over 3 million to NOT coach the team lol.

Don't buyouts usually only extend until they have found a new job?  Or was the buyout of thinking of a unique situation? (Also, I can't remember which buyout I'm thinking of.)
Illinois has to pay Weber 1.2 mil for the next 3 years I believe so he is currently one of the highest paid coaches in basketball with our money and your's combined for the next few years..Our last AD was a rough ridin' idiot..Seems like he and Curry would be good buddies.

kill me if we offered oscar a turner gill-esq fully guaranteed contract

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2012, 02:32:00 AM »
what would firing him cost us?  Whats the buyout?
It's costing Illinois over 3 million...Think about that for a second. Illinois is paying Weber over 3 million to NOT coach the team lol.

Don't buyouts usually only extend until they have found a new job?  Or was the buyout of thinking of a unique situation? (Also, I can't remember which buyout I'm thinking of.)
Illinois has to pay Weber 1.2 mil for the next 3 years I believe so he is currently one of the highest paid coaches in basketball with our money and your's combined for the next few years..Our last AD was a rough ridin' idiot..Seems like he and Curry would be good buddies.

kill me if we offered oscar a turner gill-esq fully guaranteed contract

I'm sure Dax can give us the specifics of the Dream Killer's contract.

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Re: Fire oscar
« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2012, 02:50:08 AM »
If you want to puke you can check out his contract here

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ksu/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2011-12/misc_non_event/Bruce_Weber_Contract.pdf

I just skimmed it.  It's a 5 year contract and it looks to me like he has a $2.5M buyout which would be paid over 24 months after being fired. If he gets employment somewhere else during that time, the pay would offset what we owe him.  If what we owe on the remainder of his contract is less than 2.5M than that's what he'd be owed, but that won't happen for a long time.

Basically we're completely screwed and Currie is a rough ridin' idiot.