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[kougar24]

Pullen is athletic you idiots.

Again, nothing special.

His quickness on the defensive end is special.  But no, he can't do a reverse two handed slam or anything like that I guess.

Not really. It's very good, but not exceptional.

Pullen's strength is his balance; he's not pigeonholed into any one skillset. He's a good shooter with great range, a good slasher with a good pull-up and decent finishing ability, a good FT shooter when he gets fouled, a great defender, and possesses a high enough BBIQ.

[swish1]

Pullen is athletic you idiots.

Again, nothing special.

His quickness on the defensive end is special.  But no, he can't do a reverse two handed slam or anything like that I guess.

Not really. It's very good, but not exceptional.

Pullen's strength is his balance; he's not pigeonholed into any one skillset. He's a good shooter with great range, a good slasher with a good pull-up and decent finishing ability, a good FT shooter when he gets fouled, a great defender, and possesses a high enough BBIQ.

so you agree?  he sure made "jimmer" look amazingly slow, not that he isnt, at least 3 times...

[kcchiefdav]

Jimmer also is not a pro.

[michigancat]

Actually, it is contradictory.  "Tweener" is just a nice word for players that don't have the skills to play in the NBA - they're the next best thing to someone who has them.   Frank can't get NBA talent, but is recruiting the next best thing.  He isn't employing some shrewd strategy he leaned from Roy.

Yes, Frank hasn't gotten NBA talent to come to a program that had been relevant for all of 15 minutes since 1988. I seriously doubt its a trend that continues over his coaching tenure.

I hope you're right.

An entire thread about poor recruitng that has resulted in an excellant shot at the Elite 8 and possibly more?  Said it before and I'll say it again:  I fracking hate Rusty.

I corrected myself and said KSU's recruiting has been average.  Why would that statement make you hate me?  Seems like a pretty stupid reason to hate someone.

[jtksu]

I dont actually hate you but your body of work is so overally pessimistic it's hard to stomach sometimes.

[michigancat]

I dont actually hate you but your body of work is so overally pessimistic it's hard to stomach sometimes.

What's pessimistic about what I'm saying?  It's the way things are - I can be 100% on board with Frank and extremely optimistic about his future without pretending every single thing he does is perfect.  My only issue is people that think his deficiencies are by design, which is stupid and dishonest.

[JMart]

Actually, it is contradictory.  "Tweener" is just a nice word for players that don't have the skills to play in the NBA - they're the next best thing to someone who has them.   Frank can't get NBA talent, but is recruiting the next best thing.  He isn't employing some shrewd strategy he leaned from Roy.

Yes, Frank hasn't gotten NBA talent to come to a program that had been relevant for all of 15 minutes since 1988. I seriously doubt its a trend that continues over his coaching tenure.

I hope you're right.

An entire thread about poor recruitng that has resulted in an excellant shot at the Elite 8 and possibly more?  Said it before and I'll say it again:  I fracking hate Rusty.

I corrected myself and said KSU's recruiting has been average.  Why would that statement make you hate me?  Seems like a pretty stupid reason to hate someone.

Really, he's gotten a lot of kids who, while talented, weren't guys who were first priorities elsewhere. That's called just accumulating talent and making it work, and that's to be appreciated. But soon enough, he's going to have to parlay this into a couple of elite guys because this is a tough way of doing business.

[kougar24]

Actually, it is contradictory.  "Tweener" is just a nice word for players that don't have the skills to play in the NBA - they're the next best thing to someone who has them.   Frank can't get NBA talent, but is recruiting the next best thing.  He isn't employing some shrewd strategy he leaned from Roy.

Yes, Frank hasn't gotten NBA talent to come to a program that had been relevant for all of 15 minutes since 1988. I seriously doubt its a trend that continues over his coaching tenure.

I hope you're right.

An entire thread about poor recruitng that has resulted in an excellant shot at the Elite 8 and possibly more?  Said it before and I'll say it again:  I fracking hate Rusty.

I corrected myself and said KSU's recruiting has been average.  Why would that statement make you hate me?  Seems like a pretty stupid reason to hate someone.

Really, he's gotten a lot of kids who, while talented, weren't guys who were first priorities elsewhere. That's called just accumulating talent and making it work, and that's to be appreciated. But soon enough, he's going to have to parlay this into a couple of elite guys because this is a tough way of doing business.

The ridiculous amount of national exposure we're getting right now is a good start.

[WillieWatanabe]

Actually, it is contradictory.  "Tweener" is just a nice word for players that don't have the skills to play in the NBA - they're the next best thing to someone who has them.   Frank can't get NBA talent, but is recruiting the next best thing.  He isn't employing some shrewd strategy he leaned from Roy.

Yes, Frank hasn't gotten NBA talent to come to a program that had been relevant for all of 15 minutes since 1988. I seriously doubt its a trend that continues over his coaching tenure.

I hope you're right.

An entire thread about poor recruitng that has resulted in an excellant shot at the Elite 8 and possibly more?  Said it before and I'll say it again:  I fracking hate Rusty.

I corrected myself and said KSU's recruiting has been average.  Why would that statement make you hate me?  Seems like a pretty stupid reason to hate someone.

Really, he's gotten a lot of kids who, while talented, weren't guys who were first priorities elsewhere. That's called just accumulating talent and making it work, and that's to be appreciated. But soon enough, he's going to have to parlay this into a couple of elite guys because this is a tough way of doing business.

The ridiculous amount of national exposure we're getting right now is a good start.

As Rusty has pointed out before to me, It has done dick so far...

[kougar24]

Actually, it is contradictory.  "Tweener" is just a nice word for players that don't have the skills to play in the NBA - they're the next best thing to someone who has them.   Frank can't get NBA talent, but is recruiting the next best thing.  He isn't employing some shrewd strategy he leaned from Roy.

Yes, Frank hasn't gotten NBA talent to come to a program that had been relevant for all of 15 minutes since 1988. I seriously doubt its a trend that continues over his coaching tenure.

I hope you're right.

An entire thread about poor recruitng that has resulted in an excellant shot at the Elite 8 and possibly more?  Said it before and I'll say it again:  I fracking hate Rusty.

I corrected myself and said KSU's recruiting has been average.  Why would that statement make you hate me?  Seems like a pretty stupid reason to hate someone.

Really, he's gotten a lot of kids who, while talented, weren't guys who were first priorities elsewhere. That's called just accumulating talent and making it work, and that's to be appreciated. But soon enough, he's going to have to parlay this into a couple of elite guys because this is a tough way of doing business.

The ridiculous amount of national exposure we're getting right now is a good start.

As Rusty has pointed out before to me, It has done dick so far...

You mean we haven't parlayed it into myriad blue chips over the past week and a half? What???!

[CNS]

As Rusty has pointed out before to me, It has done dick so far...
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To be fair, we didn't start receiving all the national love until after we had Nino, Sprads, and Freddy all but locked up, if not signed.  We only have the one 'ship available now, and as mentioned, the quiet from this front may mean we have something lined up.

My point: I think this is a timing issue.  Next year will be the year for dividends from national exposure.  That is assuming we aren't .500 by signing day.

[michigancat]

You mean we haven't parlayed it into myriad blue chips over the past week and a half? What???!

What did the 07-08 season get us?  Since November of 2008, KSU's recruiting hasn't been much better than the Wooldridge era.

[kougar24]

You mean we haven't parlayed it into myriad blue chips over the past week and a half? What???!

What did the 07-08 season get us?  Since November of 2008, KSU's recruiting hasn't been much better than the Wooldridge era.

We've never gotten the love and attention we're getting right now.

Never.

Now, having said that, I say again that I defer to you on recruiting matters, so I'll shut up now.

[michigancat]

You mean we haven't parlayed it into myriad blue chips over the past week and a half? What???!

What did the 07-08 season get us?  Since November of 2008, KSU's recruiting hasn't been much better than the Wooldridge era.

We've never gotten the love and attention we're getting right now.

Never.

Now, having said that, I say again that I defer to you on recruiting matters, so I'll shut up now.

True, but it was far more than KSU had ever experienced.  You'd at least expect at least a slight bump, wouldn't you?  Other than that beautiful July Boynton mention, (which was really a Gerald Green-esque moment), there has been little more than disappointment on the recruiting trail.  I just think people over estimate the impact short-term exposure can have. 

[kougar24]

You mean we haven't parlayed it into myriad blue chips over the past week and a half? What???!

What did the 07-08 season get us?  Since November of 2008, KSU's recruiting hasn't been much better than the Wooldridge era.

We've never gotten the love and attention we're getting right now.

Never.

Now, having said that, I say again that I defer to you on recruiting matters, so I'll shut up now.

True, but it was far more than KSU had ever experienced.  You'd at least expect at least a slight bump, wouldn't you?  Other than that beautiful July Boynton mention, (which was really a Gerald Green-esque moment), there has been little more than disappointment on the recruiting trail.  I just think people over estimate the impact short-term exposure can have. 

Wasn't Asprilla highly recruited? Don't know about Southwell, but thought we were cautiously optimistic about him?

I know nothing about recruiting beyond 2011, so I won't even go there.

[michigancat]

Wasn't Asprilla highly recruited? Don't know about Southwell, but thought we were cautiously optimistic about him?

I know nothing about recruiting beyond 2011, so I won't even go there.

I don't think Asprilla visited anywhere but KSU, and you always question the interest received when Art is involved.  For Southwell, we beat out South Carolina.  I think both players will be fine, but the staff hasn't really beaten a high-major NCAA caliber team for a recruit yet.  (DC Assault excepted, but that's another discussion)

[kougar24]

Wasn't Asprilla highly recruited? Don't know about Southwell, but thought we were cautiously optimistic about him?

I know nothing about recruiting beyond 2011, so I won't even go there.

I don't think Asprilla visited anywhere but KSU, and you always question the interest received when Art is involved.  For Southwell, we beat out South Carolina.  I think both players will be fine, but the staff hasn't really beaten a high-major NCAA caliber team for a recruit yet.  (DC Assault excepted, but that's another discussion)

Hmmm. I guess I would be more concerned if we didn't return so damn much next year. If we're having this same discussion next year, I'll hit the "seriously concerned" button. Fair stance?

[chum1]

It should be pointed out that where our recruits come from is a WGAF.  There's nothing wrong with Clems, Kells, and Asprs.  It's probably a great strategy for us.

[michigancat]

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Wasn't Asprilla highly recruited? Don't know about Southwell, but thought we were cautiously optimistic about him?

I know nothing about recruiting beyond 2011, so I won't even go there.

I don't think Asprilla visited anywhere but KSU, and you always question the interest received when Art is involved.  For Southwell, we beat out South Carolina.  I think both players will be fine, but the staff hasn't really beaten a high-major NCAA caliber team for a recruit yet.  (DC Assault excepted, but that's another discussion)

Hmmm. I guess I would be more concerned if we didn't return so damn much next year. If we're having this same discussion next year, I'll hit the "seriously concerned" button. Fair stance?

Well, if you want to hit that button, next November might be a more appropriate time.  But even then, I'm not sure.  Fallback plans and transfers have worked out pretty well so far.

It should be pointed out that where our recruits come from is a WGAF.  There's nothing wrong with Clems, Kells, and Asprs.  It's probably a great strategy for us.

Yep.

[kougar24]

Well, if you want to hit that button, next November might be a more appropriate time.  But even then, I'm not sure.  Fallback plans and transfers have worked out pretty well so far.

Sounds good.

[sys]

Wasn't Asprilla highly recruited?

I don't think Asprilla visited anywhere but KSU, and you always question the interest received when Art is involved.

this goes both ways.  alvarez is a hype machine.  and how many staffs are going to even bother recruiting a tropics player that kstate has offered?

[michigancat]

Wasn't Asprilla highly recruited?

I don't think Asprilla visited anywhere but KSU, and you always question the interest received when Art is involved.

this goes both ways.  alvarez is a hype machine.  and how many staffs are going to even bother recruiting a tropics player that kstate has offered?

It depends on how good they are.  Lots of people recruited Javi Gonzales and Freddy before he went prep.  Haven't been any high-majors KSU offered since, have there?

[steve dave]

Wasn't Asprilla highly recruited?

I don't think Asprilla visited anywhere but KSU, and you always question the interest received when Art is involved.

this goes both ways.  alvarez is a hype machine.  and how many staffs are going to even bother recruiting a tropics player that kstate has offered?

It depends on how good they are.  Lots of people recruited Javi Gonzales and Freddy before he went prep.  Haven't been any high-majors KSU offered since, have there?

hopefully about to be 

[OK_Cat]

This might earn be a hit with the dumbstick, fwiw.

but...

up to this point, Frank & staff have earned the benefit of the doubt on recruiting.  I can't think of anybody that they've successfully recruited to this point that was a complete washout.  They've all served a purpose, Luis included.

So add that with more national success/attention, and it doesn't seem likely that recruiting will suffer anytime soon. 

 

[Dugout DickStone]

You mean we haven't parlayed it into myriad blue chips over the past week and a half? What???!

What did the 07-08 season get us?  Since November of 2008, KSU's recruiting hasn't been much better than the Wooldridge era.

The overwhelming majority of the attention we got from Beaz and Walker was negative.