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WildcatNkilt thread about stupid championship things
« on: December 06, 2012, 12:08:28 PM »
With the divisions you build anticipations for the match-ups in the CCG if they didn't play in the reg season.


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Re: Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2012, 12:09:33 PM »
I like 10, but don't think its feasible in the long term.  Its the bare minimum to be viable and if you lose one, you have to panic bring another one aboard instantly.

That still happens if you decide you need to be at 12, or 14, or 16.

Big 10 hung out at an odd number for awhile.  I would like 11 now that you mention it.  Would keep all those other fuckers on their toes.  "They gotta even it out, right?  Who are they gunning for?"

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2012, 12:31:49 PM »
I was excited to log on to see two and a half new pages, thought something went down.  Like a page and a half of this is stormnut, I'd like my 5 minutes back :flush:

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2012, 12:39:25 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2012, 12:44:50 PM »
I like 10, but don't think its feasible in the long term.  Its the bare minimum to be viable and if you lose one, you have to panic bring another one aboard instantly.

That still happens if you decide you need to be at 12, or 14, or 16.

Big 10 hung out at an odd number for awhile.  I would like 11 now that you mention it.  Would keep all those other fuckers on their toes.  "They gotta even it out, right?  Who are they gunning for?"

Chicat I like the idea of 11 too.  That Louisville Cardinal will be flying into the window daily. 

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2012, 01:07:50 PM »
A 10 team conference w/round robin is great, but only in a vacuum or if everyone else is also doing it.  It sucks when there are conferences like the SEC with 14 teams and less conference games than the Big 12, meaning a lot of the teams don't play each other and thus you end up with half the conference getting 10 wins because they only play two good teams all season.  The Big 12 is just shooting itself in the foot on the national level with the current system.

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2012, 01:32:26 PM »
What's so great about our 10?  We should rename ourselves the Big We're With Texas (the state) Conference.  And, I mean, Texas (the state) is kinda jank.

These last two seasons of playing a ranked team just about every week and beating them have been tons of fun. I wouldn't trade that for some shitty divisional play schedule, unless both divisions were really great.

yeah, getting our asses beat almost every week by ranked teams is going to be equally sucky soon.

But adding some unranked sucky teams that will beat our ass on the road would be even more sucky.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2012, 02:08:51 PM »
The ACC Presidents apparently signed a "solidarity statement".

I'd link the article, but it's kind of dumb.  Brett McMurphy was tweeting about it.

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2012, 02:11:30 PM »
Solidarity statement = hanging tight to see what Maryland's $ comes out to

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2012, 02:13:51 PM »
Did they spit in their palms before shaking on it?  If not, it doesn't count.

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2012, 02:22:38 PM »
I worry about Texas fans getting restless at 10.  They don't have a marque home game now and with the team stuck as a 2nd tier team I am afraid they could get the wandering eye again. 

Adding FSU would help fix this but they would like to bring friends.  As unwieldy as 14 is imagine how awesome an SEC style 8 game conference schedule for #life's JR and SR seasons could be  :excited:

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2012, 02:30:03 PM »
So the SEC is planning on adding UNC and DUKE. They are so much better at this realignment crap then we are. They are just going out there and buying wins.

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2012, 02:31:59 PM »
So the SEC is planning on adding UNC and DUKE. They are so much better at this realignment crap then we are. They are just going out there and buying wins.
Not that the Big 10 needs anymore wins, but hopefully they follow the SEC's lead and take KU off our hands

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2012, 02:57:38 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2012, 03:01:41 PM »
If we stay at 10 we should get used to 1 team in the "big" bowls...
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2012, 03:03:03 PM »
If we stay at 10 we should get used to 1 team in the "big" bowls...

There will be no "big" bowls after next season.

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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2012, 03:43:15 PM »
If we stay at 10 we should get used to 1 team in the "big" bowls...

There will be no "big" bowls after next season.

Ya, if our champion goes to the playoff then our second best goes the Champions Bowl, and there are no other "big bowls" that we have access to.

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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2012, 03:55:58 PM »
I don't understand the new playoff/bowl system, like, at all.

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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2012, 03:57:46 PM »
I don't understand the new playoff/bowl system, like, at all.

What do you want to know?  Remember, there is still stuff that hasn't been worked out yet so no one knows. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2012, 03:58:22 PM »
I don't understand the new playoff/bowl system, like, at all.

What do you want to know?  Remember, there is still stuff that hasn't been worked out yet so no one knows. 

I want to know how the new system works

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2012, 04:00:10 PM »
So the SEC is planning on adding UNC and DUKE. They are so much better at this realignment crap then we are. They are just going out there and buying wins.

What they are doing is much, much better than buying wins if they get UNC and Duke.  They would be bringing in two programs that will make them more money while getting more wins over schools that don't care about winning FB games.  There is no "buying".  It's getting paid to win more FB games.   
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2012, 04:12:33 PM »
I don't understand the new playoff/bowl system, like, at all.

What do you want to know?  Remember, there is still stuff that hasn't been worked out yet so no one knows. 

I want to know how the new system works

  • 7 games every year (6 bowls + 1 bid out location for NC game) with 12 teams
  • 3 bowls new years day, 3 bowls years eve, NC game 2 Mondays later (somewhere between 8th and 14th)
  • Semi-finals rotate between 6 bowl games
  • ACC champ goes to Orange, Big12 & SEC champs go to Sugar, BigTen & Pac12 champs go to Rose
  • If any of those champs make it into top 4, they are replaced by next best team in conference
  • If any of those bowl games are hosting a semi-final, the conference champ(s) that were supposed to go there go to another 1 of the 6 bowls
  • 4 semi-finalst choosen by committee, similar to B-Ball tourney, assisted by some sort of rating system (think RPI) and leaning towards conference champs in close calls
  • The best remaining conference champ from other 5 conferences will get 1 of 12 spots
  • Once all above steps are done, committee picks next best teams to fill in 12 spots and assigns teams to open spots based on creating best matchups, no repeats, ect
  • ESPN pays a lot for this, everyone gets rich
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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2012, 04:36:23 PM »
I don't understand the new playoff/bowl system, like, at all.

What do you want to know?  Remember, there is still stuff that hasn't been worked out yet so no one knows. 

I want to know how the new system works

  • 7 games every year (6 bowls + 1 bid out location for NC game) with 12 teams
  • 3 bowls new years day, 3 bowls years eve, NC game 2 Mondays later (somewhere between 8th and 14th)
  • Semi-finals rotate between 6 bowl games
  • ACC champ goes to Orange, Big12 & SEC champs go to Sugar, BigTen & Pac12 champs go to Rose
  • If any of those champs make it into top 4, they are replaced by next best team in conference
  • If any of those bowl games are hosting a semi-final, the conference champ(s) that were supposed to go there go to another 1 of the 6 bowls
  • 4 semi-finalst choosen by committee, similar to B-Ball tourney, assisted by some sort of rating system (think RPI) and leaning towards conference champs in close calls
  • The best remaining conference champ from other 5 conferences will get 1 of 12 spots
  • Once all above steps are done, committee picks next best teams to fill in 12 spots and assigns teams to open spots based on creating best matchups, no repeats, ect
  • ESPN pays a lot for this, everyone gets rich

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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2012, 04:59:03 PM »
I don't understand the new playoff/bowl system, like, at all.

What do you want to know?  Remember, there is still stuff that hasn't been worked out yet so no one knows. 

I want to know how the new system works

  • 7 games every year (6 bowls + 1 bid out location for NC game) with 12 teams
  • 3 bowls new years day, 3 bowls years eve, NC game 2 Mondays later (somewhere between 8th and 14th)
  • Semi-finals rotate between 6 bowl games
  • ACC champ goes to Orange, Big12 & SEC champs go to Sugar, BigTen & Pac12 champs go to Rose
  • If any of those champs make it into top 4, they are replaced by next best team in conference
  • If any of those bowl games are hosting a semi-final, the conference champ(s) that were supposed to go there go to another 1 of the 6 bowls
  • 4 semi-finalst choosen by committee, similar to B-Ball tourney, assisted by some sort of rating system (think RPI) and leaning towards conference champs in close calls
  • The best remaining conference champ from other 5 conferences will get 1 of 12 spots
  • Once all above steps are done, committee picks next best teams to fill in 12 spots and assigns teams to open spots based on creating best matchups, no repeats, ect
  • ESPN pays a lot for this, everyone gets rich

could they have made it more confusing?

So the Big 12/SEC bowl only takes place when the Sugar Bowl isn't a semifinal? I thought the Rose would get Pac 10 and Big 10 no matter what.

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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2012, 05:17:02 PM »
I don't understand the new playoff/bowl system, like, at all.

What do you want to know?  Remember, there is still stuff that hasn't been worked out yet so no one knows. 

I want to know how the new system works

  • 7 games every year (6 bowls + 1 bid out location for NC game) with 12 teams
  • 3 bowls new years day, 3 bowls years eve, NC game 2 Mondays later (somewhere between 8th and 14th)
  • Semi-finals rotate between 6 bowl games
  • ACC champ goes to Orange, Big12 & SEC champs go to Sugar, BigTen & Pac12 champs go to Rose
  • If any of those champs make it into top 4, they are replaced by next best team in conference
  • If any of those bowl games are hosting a semi-final, the conference champ(s) that were supposed to go there go to another 1 of the 6 bowls
  • 4 semi-finalst choosen by committee, similar to B-Ball tourney, assisted by some sort of rating system (think RPI) and leaning towards conference champs in close calls
  • The best remaining conference champ from other 5 conferences will get 1 of 12 spots
  • Once all above steps are done, committee picks next best teams to fill in 12 spots and assigns teams to open spots based on creating best matchups, no repeats, ect
  • ESPN pays a lot for this, everyone gets rich

could they have made it more confusing?

So the Big 12/SEC bowl only takes place when the Sugar Bowl isn't a semifinal? I thought the Rose would get Pac 10 and Big 10 no matter what.
I believe the Sugar will always be Big 12/SEC if there are eligible teams from both leagues, just like the Rose. 

There are changes to the rules for who makes it and I wonder if round robin may be a bad deal here.   Like, if you have a undefeated OU and a one loss UT both making the playoff do we have a hard time getting a three loss KSU into the Sugar bowl game due to a low BCS rating?