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The playoffs...
« on: November 26, 2012, 03:23:21 PM »
I was just thinking "hey this playoff stuff might really not help us (ksu that is) very much at all".  Realistically, the only way the Cats make such a playoff is to be undefeated.  The SEC method of scheduling will almost assuredly produce at least 2 teams with only one loss and such teams will more than likely be ranked higher than us in any RPI/BCS ranking system.  This year might be an outlier, but in principle the SEC will almost always gaurantee themselves 2 spots (the conference winner and the runner up in either [OR BOTH!?] divisions).  The runner up won't get that second loss to knock them down.  I have ashamedly not  kept up with playoff talks, but I assume there is not a rule to prevent multiple teams from one conference from entering correct?  This was the whole reason the SEC was very happy to have a playoffs which avoids the more than two team rule from the BCS.

I know that going undefeated is the only surefire way to get a spot, but even in the scenario where all teams have one loss or more (imagine if ND has lost), I don't think the Cats get in (no matter who we lost to).  If we lost to the second best team it would cost us our most quality win.  But I could (likely?) be wrong.

What think you?  The playoffs are not going to benefit the Big12 at all unless it can get to 12+ teams and we implement scheduling where you only play one good team a year (blech I hate this).  Roundrobin is the most fun for fans, but an unbalanced schedule will help the Big12 get teams in the playoffs and pad the polls.


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Re: The playoffs...
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 03:30:29 PM »
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/26/3934654/this-bcs-final-is-easy-the-playoff.html

I think KSU would get in.  I think a one loss Big 12 champion would get in over a one loss SEC team that doesn't win their division, but I'm not sure.

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Re: The playoffs...
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 03:40:53 PM »
4 team playoffs will just give people a new thing to bitch about.  Just wait until the SEC gets 3 in.

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Re: The playoffs...
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 03:46:18 PM »
If it stops at 4 we are worse off but it won't.
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Re: The playoffs...
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 05:09:08 PM »
Mega conferences will have unbalance schedules (Not everybody plays each other / Certain divisions are going to be better than others) because of this ESPN and other media pun-dents will be more efficient in hyping teams in to the playoff that will improve their ratings. It doesn't solve the problem of a true champion, in fact it does that exact opposite.

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Re: The playoffs...
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 05:38:14 PM »
In the past it would've benefitted us.  With today's SEC, I don't know that it will.  ND winning would help the stop some of the SEC favoritism but them losing will be terrible.  Media would talk about how an undefeated non-SEC is less than any one loss SEC.  Anybody not SEC really needs to root for ND.

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Re: The playoffs...
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 07:54:15 PM »
Until they get rid of preseason rankings and the SEC bias in the rankings then we are mumped.
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Re: The playoffs...
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 07:57:29 PM »
Until they get rid of preseason rankings and the SEC bias in the rankings then we are mumped.

That's two thirds of it.

Chings is right,ND needs to win convincingly

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Re: The playoffs...
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 08:07:13 PM »
With it being a committee, and no definition of the selection criteria yet,  there's no way to say it would hurt us. I mean, it would have to really do some damage to us to offset the advantage we gain by doubling the number of teams.

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Re: The playoffs...
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 08:07:46 PM »
Until they get rid of preseason rankings and the SEC bias in the rankings then we are mumped.

That's two thirds of it.

Chings is right,ND needs to win convincingly

Oklahoma bitch slapping UF would be nice as well.
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Re: The playoffs...
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 08:10:53 PM »
meh, nothing changes as far as I'm concerned. We'll never get in a BCS champ game unless we go 12-0 (13-0 if we go back to 12 teams and a title game). We'll never make the playoffs without going 12-0. Would be nice to get rid of the SEC bias and preseason rankings (USC #1 is all the proof you need), but I won't hold my breath.