1998 was the best team

[chum1]

It's now official.

["storm"nut]

It's now official.

If we pull our heads out of our asses and win the last 2 I think this season wins.

[Rage Against the McKee]

No. Our five best teams, from best to worst, are:

2012
2011
2003
2002
1998

[Super PurpleCat]

Not even.

[jaa1025]

Yep and it's not close. 98 would have destroyed this team.

["storm"nut]

Yep and it's not close. 98 would have destroyed this team.

Sure but that does not make them better.

[jaa1025]

Yep and it's not close. 98 would have destroyed this team.

Sure but that does not make them better.

 

[Skipper44]

No. Our five best teams, from best to worst, are:

2012
2011
2003
2002
1998

98's D had more talent but a week ago I gave 12 the nod due to Klein and AB's steady leadership and the offensive efficiency. 

Now I have to lean to 98 because of Bishop's dynamic playmaking.  He makes a least 3 or 4 spectacular runs or throws on broken plays tonight IMO

[p1k3]

No. Our five best teams, from best to worst, are:

2012
2011
2003
2002
1998

disagree. We just lost to a terrible Baylor team, in case you didn't know

[Rage Against the McKee]

The Baylor team we just lost to is better than any team the '98 squad faced all season.

["storm"nut]

No. Our five best teams, from best to worst, are:

2012
2011
2003
2002
1998

disagree. We just lost to a terrible Baylor team, in case you didn't know

I would argue that  this Baylor team is better than pursue and A&M in 98

[Super PurpleCat]

We played as sloppy as the 1998 team did and we lost just like them.

How does this make 1998 better?

[ELL3]

1997

[PowercatPat]

2002

[Skipper44]

No. Our five best teams, from best to worst, are:

2012
2011
2003
2002
1998

disagree. We just lost to a terrible Baylor team, in case you didn't know

I would argue that  this Baylor team is better than pursue and A&M in 98

98 ATM only lost @FSU, a close one to UT when Ricky went wild and OSU in Sugar - they were pretty salty

[michigancat]

2002

2002 was pretty ridic. rough ridin' CU and Texas.

[Rage Against the McKee]

No. Our five best teams, from best to worst, are:

2012
2011
2003
2002
1998

disagree. We just lost to a terrible Baylor team, in case you didn't know

We also beat an elite OU team in Norman and are 10-1 against what is by far the most challenging schedule any Kansas State team has ever faced.

[p1k3]

No. Our five best teams, from best to worst, are:

2012
2011
2003
2002
1998

disagree. We just lost to a terrible Baylor team, in case you didn't know

We also beat an elite OU team in Norman and are 10-1 against what is by far the most challenging schedule any Kansas State team has ever faced.

well eff, you're right

[Winters]

'98.
I'd stick by my comments of the '98 team would kill '12

[Rage Against the McKee]

'98.
I'd stick by my comments of the '98 team would kill '12

The '98 defense would give an offense like '12 KSU some serious problems, but they would have given up 50 points to West Virginia, OU, Baylor, and OSU. Head to head, they would have a puncher's chance, but if you are going to run them against this team's schedule, they probably struggle to find bowl eligibility.

[Skipper44]

'98.
I'd stick by my comments of the '98 team would kill '12

This is correct Winters. The talent on that D was staggering, especially against the run.

[hemmy]

10 penalties and 3 turnovers was the norm for '98 and the usually prevailed.

[Winters]

'98.
I'd stick by my comments of the '98 team would kill '12

The '98 defense would give an offense like '12 KSU some serious problems, but they would have given up 50 points to West Virginia, OU, Baylor, and OSU. Head to head, they would have a puncher's chance, but if you are going to run them against this team's schedule, they probably struggle to find bowl eligibility.

98 Defense>>>>>12 Defense

[Rage Against the McKee]

'98.
I'd stick by my comments of the '98 team would kill '12

The '98 defense would give an offense like '12 KSU some serious problems, but they would have given up 50 points to West Virginia, OU, Baylor, and OSU. Head to head, they would have a puncher's chance, but if you are going to run them against this team's schedule, they probably struggle to find bowl eligibility.

98 Defense>>>>>12 Defense

They were not built to face the offenses of the '12 Big 12. The spread would eat them alive.

[michigancat]

might as well compare the 2012 team to the 1936 Big 6 title team. Completely different games.