THIS WAS NOT OUR ONLY SHOT

[Kat Kid]

I blame all the stupid in this thread on rusty, just like this loss is on Snyder.  Starts at the top kids....

[BMWWcat]

I think it is proven that we crap our pants once we are close to someting nice...

[michigancat]

And string together a couple seasons like this together, and KSU will be able to make it with a loss.

[SPE_khat]

too lazy to ready so someone might have already said it but i'm gonna say it anyway..

this was our only shot... for at least 14 years

[koachem_up]

On second though it happened. And theres nothing we can do to change that. Nothing. Thats sports we have to put all our reliance on a 73 year old man and an overachieving qb. We got let down and we will continue to be let down. We may never win in all in the earths history, but then again we may. Reality sucks and it seems to suck even more for us. Just keep hoping and supporting and maybe someday something will happen to make it not suck so much or maybe it wont no one really knows.

[RightMeow]

We lost because our D-line sucks balls and taints.  It's Mo Lattimore's fault.  We have had to scour the JuCos like a emeffer because he can't recruit anyone out of HS and develop them into top tier defensive lineman.  Fire Mo, get in a top notch recruiter for our d-line and we are firing on all cylinders. 

Team #FireMo

[Skipper44]

We lost because our D-line sucks balls and taints.  It's Mo Lattimore's fault.  We have had to scour the JuCos like a emeffer because he can't recruit anyone out of HS and develop them into top tier defensive linemen.  Fire Mo, get in a top notch recruiter for our d-line and we are firing on all cylinders. 

Team #FireMo

I believe people have been calling for this since 2004 (maybe even in 03 when OSU and Marshal ran all over us)

[ednksu]

I want to believe this, but realistically, we'll all die without seeing a NC for football. Accept it.

As good as Rusty's post is, the odds are in KITNfury's favor.  The list of teams that win NCs is not long and a lot of names repeat. 

the game has changed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=U7fjDS0jKiE#t=14s

JFC you are exposing yourself if you think the playoff system will radically change the BCS cartel paradigm.

Just look at what expanding the playoffs did to MLB. A wild card team has won just about every year. Expanding the playoff to 4 teams was huge, and 10 years (or less) from now when it gets expanded to 8 teams, it will be almost as easy to win a NC in football as it is in basketball. We will have other chances, as long as Currie does not bury this program with his replacement for Snyder.

I agree 8 team will change the paradigm.   4 teams won't do crap.  Especially k-state, especially whenever there is a human factor involved. 

Rusty has his head in the sand when it comes to history.  K-State, most snubbed team with BCS at larges.  K-State the ONLY team in the BCS system to have a rule made because they were LEFT OUT.  I'm sorry I don't think Snyder is willing to recruit the horses to compete in a round robin in order to get the auto bit into a play off, I don't think we will have the horses to finish the job in a playoff.  History is on my side right now.

here's the thing. WE CAN GO UNDEFEATED IN THIS LEAGUE. IF WE GO UNDEFEATED WE WILL rough ridin' PLAY IN THE PLAYOFFS YOU DUMBSHIT.

nice personal attack because you're not intelligent enough to form an answer.  I said we could go undefeated, but we won't have the horses to finish the job.  Round robin or playoff, I don't see how we finish against great top tier teams or teams who are stacked with 5*s.  Guess what Snyder isn't recruiting those players dipshit.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I want to believe this, but realistically, we'll all die without seeing a NC for football. Accept it.

As good as Rusty's post is, the odds are in KITNfury's favor.  The list of teams that win NCs is not long and a lot of names repeat. 

the game has changed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=U7fjDS0jKiE#t=14s

JFC you are exposing yourself if you think the playoff system will radically change the BCS cartel paradigm.

Just look at what expanding the playoffs did to MLB. A wild card team has won just about every year. Expanding the playoff to 4 teams was huge, and 10 years (or less) from now when it gets expanded to 8 teams, it will be almost as easy to win a NC in football as it is in basketball. We will have other chances, as long as Currie does not bury this program with his replacement for Snyder.

I agree 8 team will change the paradigm.   4 teams won't do crap.  Especially k-state, especially whenever there is a human factor involved. 

Rusty has his head in the sand when it comes to history.  K-State, most snubbed team with BCS at larges.  K-State the ONLY team in the BCS system to have a rule made because they were LEFT OUT.  I'm sorry I don't think Snyder is willing to recruit the horses to compete in a round robin in order to get the auto bit into a play off, I don't think we will have the horses to finish the job in a playoff.  History is on my side right now.

here's the thing. WE CAN GO UNDEFEATED IN THIS LEAGUE. IF WE GO UNDEFEATED WE WILL rough ridin' PLAY IN THE PLAYOFFS YOU DUMBSHIT.

nice personal attack because you're not intelligent enough to form an answer.  I said we could go undefeated, but we won't have the horses to finish the job.  Round robin or playoff, I don't see how we finish against great top tier teams or teams who are stacked with 5*s.  Guess what Snyder isn't recruiting those players dipshit.

True story: If you go undefeated, you finished the rough ridin' job. JFC.

[BMWWcat]

we found out tonight that we are a 24 person deep team...
shitty recruiting has not done us any favors.
we had a walk-on at d-end for more than half the game, you are eventually putting band-aids over tape with this roster.

[ednksu]

I want to believe this, but realistically, we'll all die without seeing a NC for football. Accept it.

As good as Rusty's post is, the odds are in KITNfury's favor.  The list of teams that win NCs is not long and a lot of names repeat. 

the game has changed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=U7fjDS0jKiE#t=14s

JFC you are exposing yourself if you think the playoff system will radically change the BCS cartel paradigm.

Just look at what expanding the playoffs did to MLB. A wild card team has won just about every year. Expanding the playoff to 4 teams was huge, and 10 years (or less) from now when it gets expanded to 8 teams, it will be almost as easy to win a NC in football as it is in basketball. We will have other chances, as long as Currie does not bury this program with his replacement for Snyder.

I agree 8 team will change the paradigm.   4 teams won't do crap.  Especially k-state, especially whenever there is a human factor involved. 

Rusty has his head in the sand when it comes to history.  K-State, most snubbed team with BCS at larges.  K-State the ONLY team in the BCS system to have a rule made because they were LEFT OUT.  I'm sorry I don't think Snyder is willing to recruit the horses to compete in a round robin in order to get the auto bit into a play off, I don't think we will have the horses to finish the job in a playoff.  History is on my side right now.

here's the thing. WE CAN GO UNDEFEATED IN THIS LEAGUE. IF WE GO UNDEFEATED WE WILL rough ridin' PLAY IN THE PLAYOFFS YOU DUMBSHIT.

nice personal attack because you're not intelligent enough to form an answer.  I said we could go undefeated, but we won't have the horses to finish the job.  Round robin or playoff, I don't see how we finish against great top tier teams or teams who are stacked with 5*s.  Guess what Snyder isn't recruiting those players dipshit.

True story: If you go undefeated, you finished the rough ridin' job. JFC.

you're not this bad at reading are you?

[michigancat]

you honestly lost me ed. Are you saying that if we go undefeated and make it to the national semifinal, we don't have a shot at the national title? oh criminy.

[wetwillie]

Hell it may not even have been Bill's last shot.

[michigancat]

Hell it may not even have been Bill's last shot.

you know what?

YOU'RE RIGHT!

[ednksu]

you honestly lost me ed. Are you saying that if we go undefeated and make it to the national semifinal, we don't have a shot at the national title? oh criminy.

I'm worried that a team of 2s* and 3s* will be running on empty when they go to play anyone of 6 teams from the SEC, USC/Oregon, FSU, Texas/OU.  If we get through an incredibly challenging round robin against some heavy weights, we are than going to face an even steeper challenge from the playoff.  Teams that will be battle tested, with incredible players, and good/great coaching.  I mean we have a shot.  We had a shot tonight.  We blew it against the worst defensive team this year. 


I don't see how we challenge without a massive paradigm shift at K-State.  That means doing things Snyder hasn't/isn't willing to do.  That means our admin doing things it hasn't done, admittedly they are starting to do now; facilities, donors, etc but that IS only ADJC and animal.  I worry that we will K-State0 ourselves out of those types of administrative players. 

[Trim]

#life

[RightMeow]

we found out tonight that we are a 24 person deep team...
shitty recruiting has not done us any favors.
we had a walk-on at d-end for more than half the game, you are eventually putting band-aids over tape with this roster.

This.  I feel bad for Mueller.  He got effing manhandled because he's half the size of the o-lineman he's up against.  Meshak Williams is our best def lineman and he's not very big, just explosive.  Lutui and Boyd played like absolute ass.  RBs running right past them all night as they were blocked up.  No penetration into the backfield.  I thought we defended the run better when we put in our "pass rush" d-line with Tuggle and Davis lined up with a hand down.  We have to recruit better on the defensive line or we will continue to lose games like this.  We are real close, guys.  Just a good recruiting class of good defensive players and we are real close. 

[michigancat]

you honestly lost me ed. Are you saying that if we go undefeated and make it to the national semifinal, we don't have a shot at the national title? oh criminy.

I'm worried that a team of 2s* and 3s* will be running on empty when they go to play anyone of 6 teams from the SEC, USC/Oregon, FSU, Texas/OU.  If we get through an incredibly challenging round robin against some heavy weights, we are than going to face an even steeper challenge from the playoff.  Teams that will be battle tested, with incredible players, and good/great coaching.  I mean we have a shot.  We had a shot tonight.  We blew it against the worst defensive team this year. 


I don't see how we challenge without a massive paradigm shift at K-State.  That means doing things Snyder hasn't/isn't willing to do.  That means our admin doing things it hasn't done, admittedly they are starting to do now; facilities, donors, etc but that IS only ADJC and animal.  I worry that we will K-State0 ourselves out of those types of administrative players. 

You have no appreciation for how close we've been, TWICE!!!!

If you think we can make it to a semifinal, we do not need a rough ridin' paradigm shift to win the semifinal. Good Grief.

[MakeItRain]

Everrybody shut up and wallow.  I had freaking iowa state notre dame iowa state guy couldn't make up his rough ridin' mind fans talking trash to me.

[PowercatPat]

We lost because our D-line sucks balls and taints.  It's Mo Lattimore's fault.  We have had to scour the JuCos like a emeffer because he can't recruit anyone out of HS and develop them into top tier defensive lineman.  Fire Mo, get in a top notch recruiter for our d-line and we are firing on all cylinders. 

Team #FireMo

I will be joining this bandwagon

#FireMo

[BMWWcat]

Our AD is too busy looking for receipts in the trash at dillons to rough ridin' hire great coaches and pay them what they are worth.

[sonofdaxjones]

Here's a thought . . . "coaching the ones we've got" too much leads to being tight and over thinking.   Let's do a smidgen less "coaching the ones we've got" and do a little more "finding the ones that will eventually be the one's we've got".   

[MakeItRain]

We lost because our D-line sucks balls and taints.  It's Mo Lattimore's fault.  We have had to scour the JuCos like a emeffer because he can't recruit anyone out of HS and develop them into top tier defensive lineman.  Fire Mo, get in a top notch recruiter for our d-line and we are firing on all cylinders. 

Team #FireMo

we scored 7 second half points on a 1/2 yard run

[Rage Against the McKee]

Here's a thought . . . "coaching the ones we've got" too much leads to being tight and over thinking.   Let's do a smidgen less "coaching the ones we've got" and do a little more "finding the ones that will eventually be the one's we've got".

I think the ones we've got needed a whole lot of coaching to get to where they are now, though.

[sonofdaxjones]

Here's a thought . . . "coaching the ones we've got" too much leads to being tight and over thinking.   Let's do a smidgen less "coaching the ones we've got" and do a little more "finding the ones that will eventually be the one's we've got".

I think the ones we've got needed a whole lot of coaching to get to where they are now, though.

That's a good point.